“The head coach at Tennessee is going to be judged on three games:

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BeardedVol said:
I by "A-game" you mean the come into the game expecting to win beyond the shadow of a doubt, sure, but they aren't playing us any harder than they play any other SEC team; stop deluding yourself. Everyone of those teams pencil us in as a "W", every off season.
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Of course they pencil in wins against all of those teams. I think what he meant is that Georgia, Florida, or Alabama is more likely to come in sleepwalking against a South Carolina, a Kentucky, a Mizzou, etc. than they are Tennessee even though in any given year we might be just as good (or worse) than those teams. Especially if they are coming to Knoxville to play us.

At least with opposing coaching staffs, Tennessee still has a "name" and an association with being a dominant program at one point. South Carolina, Kentucky, Mizzou, etc. do not. We don't have that associated with any current opposing players though.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I don't think there have been too many times in history when all 3 of these teams have simultaneously been Top 5 type programs. Make no mistake, this is currently a higher bar than anything Fulmer dealt with.
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Oh my, we were told that Fulmer was an exceptional coach.
 
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I agree with the premise and those three games are the standard. You never know with people opting out and with contact tracing, etc... who you have. I just am not ready to start throwing blame
 
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RFlynn said:
We just don't have the elite talent yet. CJP is working on that. I know no ones to hear it but we are about 2 more signing classes away from starting to catch up.
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How was TN ahead at half time if we were not close in talent? How did TN defense stop GA twice in the first half on 4th down ? TN is just missing a good QB and an OC that can call a game to help his team. We are close enough that it should not have been a blow out AGAIN.
 
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SickEmSmokey14 said:
Florida, Georgia, and Alabama.”

The win streaks are nice but I’m really sick of losing our three biggest games of the year in blowout fashion. It’s hard to see much progress when you’re getting beat by 20+ pts against the teams you’re going to have to go through to start talking division, SEC, and National titles. I know we’ve been held back (in comparison with our rivals) by lack of talent and coaching turmoil but at what point do you need to see progress in those three games?

Two chances left in 2020.... Do we need to steal one this year, two next year? Curious on your thoughts.
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We will beat Florida
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
LOL-The Georgia teams Butch faced are not remotely close in talent to what Georgia has the last 3 years. Florida, maybe but probably not close either.
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What Abingdon? You know UGA is UGA no matter what. They could have the Titan’s roster one year and it is the exact same as playing them when they have Farragut’s roster. You need to start making sense!
 
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Gandalf said:
As much as I want to win all three of those games, I would be really happy if this year we could win every other game besides those three. Got to start doing that reliably again as a first mile-marker. Then the 3 others will fall.
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I feel quite confident that UT has vandy, UK, uscjr and Missouri under control for the foreseeable future. Vanderbilt is a shipwreck, we've already beaten uscjr and Missouri 2 years in a row and UK has trouble with us even in the bad years, hell they've only beaten UT 4 times in my lifetime.

The thing that separates other programs from UT is that UT never reaches up and beats a team they aren't supposed to beat. Like, never. The time is now for a UT coach to figure out how to get lucky every once in a while. Tennessee hasn't had an impressive win since 2016 and 2016 was the only year going back all the way to Kiffin. Our record against ranked teams is pathetic. You'd think in 20 or 30 tries we could win a hand full at least. It's just inexcusable that Tennessee is just expected to lose all tough games and never win one of them once in a while.
 
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Sarms58 said:
same goes for QBs who have time to throw....that was my point
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Most QBs know where the heat is coming from prior to the snap. The main problem that I see is that he can’t help but let one bad play turn into three bad plays. Some QBs have almost a sixth sense in the pocket, this one does not. He’s a game manager at best, not a game changer. Most of his big throws are the result of great catches, more so than great throws. He’s a middle of the road QB, not down on him, it’s just what he is.
 
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CINCYVOL said:
Most QBs know where the heat is coming from prior to the snap. The main problem that I see is that he can’t help but let one bad play turn into three bad plays. Some QBs have almost a sixth sense in the pocket, this one does not. He’s a game manager at best, not a game changer. Most of his big throws are the result of great catches, more so than great throws. He’s a middle of the road QB, not down on him, it’s just what he is.
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I disagree. He has definitely changed some games, it just usually isn’t for the better. I hate it for the kid though. I really wish he would wake up one day and everything click for him but it just isn’t going to happen.
 
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CINCYVOL said:
Most QBs know where the heat is coming from prior to the snap. The main problem that I see is that he can’t help but let one bad play turn into three bad plays. Some QBs have almost a sixth sense in the pocket, this one does not. He’s a game manager at best, not a game changer. Most of his big throws are the result of great catches, more so than great throws. He’s a middle of the road QB, not down on him, it’s just what he is.
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You are referring to seeing the blitz...but it was their DEs that we’re hitting our QB on most of the plays in the 3rd quarter. And they were getting to him before he had open receivers - The DBs were playing very tight press coverage. Our OL was getting beat by their DL on every play - that’s not something the QB can see coming; the tackles are supposed to block the ends.
 
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We're back to 3rd in the East. Bounced back pretty quick from an 0-8 SEC record and being a complete joke.

We got to be able to run the ball against those 3 and not get shook up by the limelight. Need to get more playmakers on defense but given time they'll be mentioned with any top team.

Offensively, Chaney's play calling was aggravating to me Saturday, but that was the most undisciplined game we've had in a while.
If I was a Haslam I'd offer all I could to the OC who left LSU after last year. I've never seen a team fall off so quickly.

Be like the 86 Bears. Pruitt is a lot like Buddy Ryan, just let him get the defense ready and let the OC deal with the offense
 
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MWAVolfan said:
I feel quite confident that UT has vandy, UK, uscjr and Missouri under control for the foreseeable future. Vanderbilt is a shipwreck, we've already beaten uscjr and Missouri 2 years in a row and UK has trouble with us even in the bad years, hell they've only beaten UT 4 times in my lifetime.

The thing that separates other programs from UT is that UT never reaches up and beats a team they aren't supposed to beat. Like, never. The time is now for a UT coach to figure out how to get lucky every once in a while. Tennessee hasn't had an impressive win since 2016 and 2016 was the only year going back all the way to Kiffin. Our record against ranked teams is pathetic. You'd think in 20 or 30 tries we could win a hand full at least. It's just inexcusable that Tennessee is just expected to lose all tough games and never win one of them once in a while.
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I hear you - but we are not coming back from the place we were just a mediocre 7-5 team. When Pruitt started we were historically bad, as in the worst record in UT history. To establish we are back just to top of the middle pack - aka always ranked but not quite top 10 - we have to first establish we can beat everyone in the SEC except those 3 (though I do hope we can take one from Florida this year) before we can expect to have a decent shot to take one from Top 5 teams (not referring to Gators here). I think if we had not had Covid this year we would have had a better chance to steal one. This year I hope to be 7-3 or 8-2, would be awesome. Next year, I do expect we should take one from GA or bubbas.
 
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vol94 said:
Agree. But not sure we will ever get back to elite level since the Big 3 recruit high levels.
After 92, it was FL and UT fighting for SEC. We out recruited everyone but FL. I don’t recall rankings back then, maybe I didn’t pay attention?
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We recruited better than Fla in the 90s. They had a better coach
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
LOL-The Georgia teams Butch faced are not remotely close in talent to what Georgia has the last 3 years. Florida, maybe but probably not close either.
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We upset UGA in 2015, were even with them in 2016 as it was early and they were on a 1st year coach. We were better than or even with UF and only won one. Bama was Bama. No way we were beating them .
 
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