“Meat Market” with Coach Orgeron

#26
#26
And its recent enough that alot of the players are still playing, great read.
 
#27
#27
I got it out of my mailbox at 11:30pm on a Thursday. Between that time and 6pm Saturday evening which included 9 hour workday on Friday and 18 holes of golf on Sat. I had finished it and I'm not a fast reader. I just couldn't put it down.
 
#28
#28
I think I will go and get this book in the Summer so I don't get so excited right now. I have to pace myself. haha Go Vols
 
#29
#29
Bought it a couple of day ago, started it last night and read to chapter 3 when i should of been asleep. cant wait to pick it back up tonight.
 
#30
#30
Great book!I could not put it down.Very interesting to see the behind the scenes of recruiting,especially CEO recruiting.
 
#31
#31
great book. it really made me appreciate the coaches we got in Orgeron and Wilson. if you dont visit the recruiting forum before you read it, then you probably will after you read it.
 
#32
#32
Hadn't read this yet, but I did see the book available today at Books A Million for $6.97 on their clearance bin if anyone is looking to purchase.
 
#33
#33
I know I posted earlier in this thread, but I have to say the book is even better the second time you read it.
 
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VolinConcord said:
I know I posted earlier in this thread, but I have to say the book is even better the second time you read it.
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ViC, speaking of great books... any tips on getting cheap Charlotte Nascar tickets? went to the Coke 600 last year and was absolutely floored, but cost me a fortune...
 
#35
#35
Just finished it today. I thought it was terrific every college fan and most notably UT fan should read it. Have even more respect for Orgeron now. Just shows how much Mississippi's great season last year was based on Orgeron and staff.
 
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#36
I finished reading it a couple of weeks ago. There were several points that were very helpful to me when following recruiting (although those who have followed recruiting longer than me probably already knew some of this):

The first thing Feldman did was redefine commitment and offer. This helped me as whenever I heard a player 'commits' to a school and then he decides to go somewhere else it makes him sound dishonest. This really isn't the case though. Also, Feldman made it obvious that even 'offers' weren't what we would normally think. Schools don't rescind offers very often but they do have plenty of ways to get out of them such as 'slow playing' a recruit or telling him he would be buried on the bench.

When I first picked it up I had actually forgotten that Wilson coached at Ole Miss with Orgeron. Wilson was essentially the supporting star of the book behind Coach O so it was great that it focused so much on him. I found this story that was written between the time Coach O was signed and Wilson followed (it may have already been posted):

High School coaches don't expect Ed Orgeron's work at Tennessee to impact LSU football - LSU Beat - Times-Picayune - NOLA.com

In retrospect, there were 2 great lines in the article:

"He's an OK recruiter, " said McDonogh 35 Coach Wayne Reese, whose own Lionel Breaux signed with Ole Miss during Orgeron's tenure. "But let's face facts. The guy that was doing the recruiting for him (in Louisiana) while he was at Ole Miss was Frank Wilson (a former O.P. Walker coach, whom Orgeron made one of his first hires. Wilson is now at Mississippi State). They made three or four trips here to 35 and the guy doing the leg work for him was Frank Wilson. Virtually every guy he got from Louisiana was because of Frank Wilson.

Fortunately we grabbed Wilson too.

"I think it's going to be hard for anybody to come into Louisiana and get a top 10 recruit; LSU does such a good job with that, " said Rayville Coach Bo Barton

Hello Janzen Jackson. Anyway, back on topic.

The other thing that I really enjoyed about the book was the effort they go through to get kids qualified. The subjectivity involved by the NCAA surprised me a bit. It also has me worried about Oku qualifying since they listed a senior year transfer as a red flag of sorts.

Overall any college football fan that follows recruiting should enjoy the book but it's a must read for UT fans now. I also think it showed a big part of Coach O's strength as a recruiter is identifying talent, organizing the recruiting process, and relentlessly pursuing the players. I suspect there are others that are better at establishing relationships with recruits (many of whom are on UT).
 
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Return2Power said:
I got it off Amazon. Shipping and everything was just $13. I agree, it is a good reminder that the stars don't really mean alot in the recruiting world. CFW is a "BEAST" recruiter. There is zero doubt in my mind that this coaching staff in place at Tennessee will have the "very best" talent in the country in four years. Two thumbs up on the book.
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I got it at Amazon as well....I paid $10.00 including shipping and am really anxious to read it after reading this thread.....
 
#40
#40
I am 60 pages into this book. CEO is the man. I want to go break stuff now.
 
#41
#41
Talk about a guy who went to the top and then bottomed out. Now he's back, but this man is an obsessed animal.
 
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#45
One of the most memorable moments in the book for me was the earily recruitment of Joe McKnight and how Orgeron would try and steer McKnight to USC so LSU wouldn't get him. Of course Ole Miss battled for McKnight but that was interesting to hear. Hopefully, Carroll will pull a similar stunt for UT to avoid playing against good talent.
 
#47
#47
Im a little over half way, book is awesome. I love the whole book and how its written. The little tidbits about CEO telling Warren Sapp to meet him out behind the practice field at midnight if he wanted to try him and then finding out that The Rock's "Know your roll, and shut your mouth" saying came from CEO is awesome.
 
#48
#48
I was at my Parents house last weekend and my brother came in and handed me the book. He had already read it and said it was awesome. I think the price on it is $15.99. Pretty cool I get to read it and don't even have to pay for it. I am stoked!
 
#50
#50
I got the book from the library about a month ago, and finished it in about 1 wk. The main library in Knoxville has it (unless it's checked out). I had to wait a little while before it was available though.
I had no idea that so much went into recruiting like that. When dealing with 17 and 18 year olds, it can be pretty interesting, to say the least. But, after reading this book I can definitely say that we have the best recruiters in the nation!
 
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