'15 TN ATH Jauan Jennings (UT commit 4/7/14)

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LebanonVolunteer said:
I think it depends on how he does this year. UT may not be willing to promise him a real shot at QB if they know he would not be competitive there. I could see some smaller schools possibly take him as a QB. If he really wants to play QB, he may be willing to consider smaller programs. Maybe like an MTSU or Memphis.
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LOL... "real shot" of course you offer this guy a "real shot" at QB.. and by real shot, I mean he has a week in camp to show what he has and then switch him, but no decent recruiter would act like he doesn't have a "real shot"...
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
LOL... "real shot" of course you offer this guy a "real shot" at QB.. and by real shot, I mean he has a week in camp to show what he has and then switch him, but no decent recruiter would act like he doesn't have a "real shot"...
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One who cares about his future would. If as a recruiter I knew the kid was 100% sold on being a college QB, I would flat out tell him the truth. Why lie to him if I know he is not what my program is looking for? Why have him go through the whole process of signing and joining my program if a week into camp I know when I try to move him to S he wants to transfer? The problem with Jennings, or at least from what I read is he is a LONG WAY from being an SEC caliber QB. It's not like he just has a couple things to work on. IMO the best thing to do is tell a kid the truth. If it is not what he wants to hear, then he can at least make a better decision for his future.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
One who cares about his future would. If as a recruiter I knew the kid was 100% sold on being a college QB, I would flat out tell him the truth. Why lie to him if I know he is not what my program is looking for? Why have him go through the whole process of signing and joining my program if a week into camp I know when I try to move him to S he wants to transfer? The problem with Jennings, or at least from what I read is he is a LONG WAY from being an SEC caliber QB. It's not like he just has a couple things to work on. IMO the best thing to do is tell a kid the truth. If it is not what he wants to hear, then he can at least make a better decision for his future.
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Then you would be a terrible recruiter.

HS senior who's the stud athlete in his school. Everybody loves on him and he truely believes he can play any position at the next level - why wouldn't he as he's been successful at every athletic challenge faced? Even the best college recruiters are successful on QB's about 25% of the time. For all UT knows, during a red shirt season he may well develop into a quality QB. If not, he will probably figure it out on his own comparing himself to the other QB's on the practice field. At that point he will either transfer to a lower level program or will switch over to safety. All UT risked was a red shirt season. If he leaves, he will be back filled quickly. If he stays, then they got a stud DB or QB out of the deal. The other 75% of their non-starter QB recruits can't be repurposed to a different position. UT honestly gives him a fair shot to develop at his preferred position - nothing dirty about that.

Bear Bryant used to sign 5 to 10 QB's every year as his thought was a HS QB was typically the best athlete at the school. He was pretty successful using them as RB's, WR's, DB's, and LB's.
 
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walkenvol said:
Then you would be a terrible recruiter.

HS senior who's the stud athlete in his school. Everybody loves on him and he truely believes he can play any position at the next level - why wouldn't he as he's been successful at every athletic challenge faced? Even the best college recruiters are successful on QB's about 25% of the time. For all UT knows, during a red shirt season he may well develop into a quality QB. If not, he will probably figure it out on his own comparing himself to the other QB's on the practice field. At that point he will either transfer to a lower level program or will switch over to safety. All UT risked was a red shirt season. If he leaves, he will be back filled quickly. If he stays, then they got a stud DB or QB out of the deal. The other 75% of their non-starter QB recruits can't be repurposed to a different position. UT honestly gives him a fair shot to develop at his preferred position - nothing dirty about that.

Bear Bryant used to sign 5 to 10 QB's every year as his thought was a HS QB was typically the best athlete at the school. He was pretty successful using them as RB's, WR's, DB's, and LB's.
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60 years ago, that may have worked. Today, not so much.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
LOL... "real shot" of course you offer this guy a "real shot" at QB.. and by real shot, I mean he has a week in camp to show what he has and then switch him, but no decent recruiter would act like he doesn't have a "real shot"...
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This. You're not doing your job as a recruiter if you tell a kid like this he won't get his shot at QB. And you probably won't have a job very long. Of course he gets his shot. Then a week or two later he's at S. Happens all the time. This situation will be no different. That being said, he could have an amazing year and end up at QB in college. As of today I just don't see it though.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
60 years ago, that may have worked. Today, not so much.
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Silly statement...there are college QB's that successfully switch positions in the NFL. The Dolphins starting QB started college as a receiver. How many of UT's current WR's and DB's also played QB in HS? Only difference is they embraced the position change more quickly than Jennings. It would appear GA sure got it wrong choosing a position for Nick Marshall.

QB is unquestionably the hardest position to predict. JJ may well develop into an outstanding SEC QB. He certainly has the athleticism. I'd take a 1 year flyer on him in an instant and give him every opportunity to develop his QB skills. If it didn't happen for him at QB, after one year I would ask him to move to a different position or help him find a lower level program that fit his development at QB. Low risk for potential high reward. That what a good recruiter would do.
 
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ljeller said:
This. You're not doing your job as a recruiter if you tell a kid like this he won't get his shot at QB. And you probably won't have a job very long. Of course he gets his shot. Then a week or two later he's at S. Happens all the time. This situation will be no different. That being said, he could have an amazing year and end up at QB in college. As of today I just don't see it though.
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I'm not sure if I'd mandate a switch after 1 or 2 weeks myself. If I promised a recruit a shot at a certain position, that shot would be their red shirt season and it would be a legit shot. I'm not so sure your position isn't the more common one though.
 
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walkenvol said:
I'm not sure if I'd mandate a switch after 1 or 2 weeks myself. If I promised a recruit a shot at a certain position, that shot would be their red shirt season and it would be a legit shot. I'm not so sure your position isn't the more common one though.
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It all depends on just how well a kid projects at his preferred position IMO. In Jennings' case, I think he has All-SEC type talent at S. Right now I just don't see him as an SEC QB. Now a year from now it could be a different story...
 
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walkenvol said:
Silly statement...there are college QB's that successfully switch positions in the NFL. The Dolphins starting QB started college as a receiver. How many of UT's current WR's and DB's also played QB in HS? Only difference is they embraced the position change more quickly than Jennings. It would appear GA sure got it wrong choosing a position for Nick Marshall.

QB is unquestionably the hardest position to predict. JJ may well develop into an outstanding SEC QB. He certainly has the athleticism. I'd take a 1 year flyer on him in an instant and give him every opportunity to develop his QB skills. If it didn't happen for him at QB, after one year I would ask him to move to a different position or help him find a lower level program that fit his development at QB. Low risk for potential high reward. That what a good recruiter would do.
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So if the UT coaches don't just take him as a QB and give him at least a shot at it they are not good recruiters? Interesting take. IMO they are not going to take him as a QB. I just don't think he is of the caliber they are looking for. I also don't think he will choose a school who does not 100% see him as a college QB.
 
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I'm interested to know if he would prefer to go to a program that tells him he is 100% a qb. I'm making up this example, but a program like Indiana. Or would he rather come here with a shot to prove himself at qb, but be prepared to move over to safety if it's for the best?
 
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Dust10 said:
I'm interested to know if he would prefer to go to a program that tells him he is 100% a qb. I'm making up this example, but a program like Indiana. Or would he rather come here with a shot to prove himself at qb, but be prepared to move over to safety if it's for the best?
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I think the Indiana's of the world are the only schools that would guarantee he remains at QB. IMO he will realize this and choose to attend a big time school with a chance to prove himself. JMO of course...but I know it would be an easy choice for me to make.
 
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ljeller said:
I think the Indiana's of the world are the only schools that would guarantee he remains at QB. IMO he will realize this and choose to attend a big time school with a chance to prove himself. JMO of course...but I know it would be an easy choice for me to make.
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Someone should point out to him the contracts those free agent safeties just signed. One can deff make a nice living as a safety.
 
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LittleDTO said:
UT is recruiting him as a QB.
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That may be the case. Especially if he has said he wants to play QB in college. Now actually taking him as a QB IMO for UT is a long way away. The QB board would look pretty bare before they took him as a QB IMO. I could be wrong, and with him being instate, I would be ok if I were wrong. I do like seeing instate kids kept instate.
 
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Dust10 said:
Someone should point out to him the contracts those free agent safeties just signed. One can deff make a nice living as a safety.
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No doubt...and if he hopes to earn one of those Sunday paychecks he needs to strongly consider the move. JMO...
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
So if the UT coaches don't just take him as a QB and give him at least a shot at it they are not good recruiters? Interesting take. IMO they are not going to take him as a QB. I just don't think he is of the caliber they are looking for. I also don't think he will choose a school who does not 100% see him as a college QB.
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Now you're changing the discussion. Your earlier position was;

"If as a recruiter I knew the kid was 100% sold on being a college QB, I would flat out tell him the truth. Why lie to him if I know he is not what my program is looking for?"

Your current question of whether or not UT has good recruiters based on taking JJ or not is completely different but I will answer anyway.

If UT evaluates and determines that JJ is an elite DB talent at the top of their board much like Adore was last go round, and JJ would sign with UT if given a year to develop his QB skills, then yes I believe UT would be making a mistake to not sign JJ. Recruiting is an inexact science so a single take/no take on one recruit does not make any program "bad" recruiters. CBJ has stated over and over his desire to add speed at every position on the field. If JJ has elite speed, then get him in the program and see where he develops position wise. We just signed several recuits last cycle that don't have a set position - how would JJ be any different?
 
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walkenvol said:
Now you're changing the discussion. Your earlier position was;

"If as a recruiter I knew the kid was 100% sold on being a college QB, I would flat out tell him the truth. Why lie to him if I know he is not what my program is looking for?"

Your current question of whether or not UT has good recruiters based on taking JJ or not is completely different but I will answer anyway.

If UT evaluates and determines that JJ is an elite DB talent at the top of their board much like Adore was last go round, and JJ would sign with UT if given a year to develop his QB skills, then yes I believe UT would be making a mistake to not sign JJ. Recruiting is an inexact science so a single take/no take on one recruit does not make any program "bad" recruiters. CBJ has stated over and over his desire to add speed at every position on the field. If JJ has elite speed, then get him in the program and see where he develops position wise. We just signed several recuits last cycle that don't have a set position - how would JJ be any different?
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Everything I have read said that Jennings is not interested(at least right now) in anything but playing QB. IMO that is the difference. Other kids may be willing to move. Maybe he is not?
 
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walkenvol said:
Silly statement...there are college QB's that successfully switch positions in the NFL. The Dolphins starting QB started college as a receiver. How many of UT's current WR's and DB's also played QB in HS? Only difference is they embraced the position change more quickly than Jennings. It would appear GA sure got it wrong choosing a position for Nick Marshall.

QB is unquestionably the hardest position to predict. JJ may well develop into an outstanding SEC QB. He certainly has the athleticism. I'd take a 1 year flyer on him in an instant and give him every opportunity to develop his QB skills. If it didn't happen for him at QB, after one year I would ask him to move to a different position or help him find a lower level program that fit his development at QB. Low risk for potential high reward. That what a good recruiter would do.
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I don't think Georgia got it wrong choosing a position for Nick Marshall. Marshall is not a pro style QB and really only fits a system like Malzahn's. If you make him throw 35 times a game, his team is in trouble. That is not what Georgia needs.

I agree, though, that many college standouts play QB or RB in HS because they are the best athletes who need the ball in their hands. However, most realize that those positions are not their best at the next level. Some are stubborn and want to play a certain position. Sometimes, it works out and sometimes it doesn't. Hopefully, Jennings figures out what is best for him.
 
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ljeller said:
He would definitely get his shot at QB but I guarantee you he hasn't been told that there is zero chance he could end up elsewhere.
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I don't know about that. However, I'm 100% positive that they view Jennings as a QB prospect.

He is a phenomenal athlete.
 
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LittleDTO said:
I don't know about that. However, I'm 100% positive that they view Jennings as a QB prospect.

He is a phenomenal athlete.
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Definitely a phenomenal athlete for sure. And I do agree they view him as a QB prospect...I just don't think that's where he stays his entire career. I think he would be a decent QB but an outstanding Safety...
 
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