Utah State opens as early Vegas favorite @Tennessee

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LotteryPick said:
No, it can absolutely be the house revising their view. Which they will.
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Because??

Rarely do you see this. They have a lot of $$ on the line. I think they do their homework.

Remember the line is not really their expected result. It Iis where they think the money will be about even.
 
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ag4fr said:
Because??

Rarely do you see this. They have a lot of $$ on the line. I think they do their homework.

Remember the line is not really their expectedresult. It Iis where they think the money will be about even.
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So why use it as an argument against UT's chances? If it isn't the expected result, then they aren't actually "putting stock into USU" more than UT.
 
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ag4fr said:
LOL! Thanks for the polygamy reference.

Sorry Bubba. This is not high school sports anymore.

This is college football. These are highly skilled and trained athletes. These are not a bunch of kids from the neighborhood that, given the right pep talk, are going to run onto the field looking for blood.

If your coach can't get D1 SEC level athletes prepared and "up" to play a home opener against a Mountain West conference foe, you need to be looking for another coach.

The guys in Vegas are not putting a lot of stock in your 5* and 4* guys against our 2* and 3* guys.

Read into that whatever you like.
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I will. And who says all of us stopped playing sports in high school? I'm sure it's hard to comprehend when you come from an area where there are limited cases of talent playing beyond high school so I under stand where your assumption comes from.

That being said, who said our coach won't have the team up for the first game? Since when does a Vegas line mean the game has already been decided? I guess by that logic Denver beat Seattle in the Super Bowl as well.

The experts at Vegas Insider have tabulated a Las Vegas consensus, and the line moved slightly with Denver as 2.5 point favorites and an over/under of 47.5 points.
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Vegas lines mean nothing come game time.
 
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LotteryPick said:
So why use it as an argument against UT's chances? If it isn't the expected result, then they aren't actually "putting stock into USU" more than UT.
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The equilibrium point between money bet on team A vs. money bet on team B makes the most money for the house. Both sides come to the bookmaker thinking there is no way in heck that they are not going to win.

Sports gaming is incredibly sophisticated and while the line is primary driven by equilibrium in the action, there often does end up being a lot of correlation to the game results.

I suppose that makes a lot of sense whereas institutional gamers and big-time sports bettors drive so many $$.

In the ultimate capital system, the bettors are going to be pretty educated and pretty accurate and place their bets accordingly.
 
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sanddune50 said:
I'm sure it's hard to comprehend when you come from an area where there are limited cases of talent playing beyond high school so I under stand where your assumption comes from.
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Care to break out your handy decoder ring and explain what you thought you were trying to say here?
 
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ag4fr said:
Care to break out your handy decoder ring and explain what you thought you were trying to say here?
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English try it some time. Or have one of your daddy's wives explain it to you when he makes it back to the compound.
 
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AV_12 said:
How many mountain west games combined does it take to play in front of 100,000 fans? Good luck with that.
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trick question. Is that with potential capacity of the stadium or realistic count of people in the stands? Big difference.
 
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AV_12 said:
How many mountain west games combined does it take to play in front of 100,000 fans? Good luck with that.
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Just like the sec, it will vary by team.

I would put the over/under very close to the number of sec games the vols have won in the past 3 years.
 
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ag4fr said:
Just like the sec, it will vary by team.

I would put the over/under very close to the number of sec games the vols have won in the past 3 years.
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lol please stick around after the AGs get their ass kicked
 
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ag4fr said:
Just like the sec, it will vary by team.

I would put the over/under very close to the number of sec games the vols have won in the past 3 years.
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:lolabove:

That was funny!

Sad...but funny.
 
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(1) This is not a "Vegas" line. No reputable casino - domestic or offshore - has posted a line for this game.
(2) The USU -2 spread was made by a guy named Jim Howell, whose picture is below:
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(3) Howell keeps a good database of historical scores, but no one - literally, no one - respects him as a handicapper.
(4) Moreover, Howell does not hold himself out as a handicapper.
(5) Howell tries to use recent historical performance to determine future scores.
(6) Howell's method leads to some odd results, including having South Carolina ranked 5th in his 2014 pre-season poll. 2014 NCAA Division IA Football Power Ratings
(7) Based on name recognition and home-field advantage alone, Tennessee will be at least a 3.5 point favorite, and likely a 7.5-10 point favorite.
 
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