Petition to rehire Bruce Pearl

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volbeast33 said:
Im talking about the fake bump, ticket gate and the Brian williams drug conspiracy.......those three things were made up bullsh*t trying to enhance public perception of their firing of Bruce Pearl bc before they had said that they were supporting him. They changed their minds bc they blinked at the threats of the penalties from the NCAA.
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So those things were made up?

They didn't happen?
 
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volbeast33 said:
Why does it matter what the coach says for why a player is sitting out?
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If you were instructed by your bosses not to lie about it, and cover it up, wouldn't you do as they asked? Especially given what you had just been through?

I think I also heard mentioned that if it was a failed drug test Williams would've been done at Tennessee. Pearl wanted him, so he covered it as a back injury and played Williams later on in the season and tourney iirc.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You admitted knowing about that stuff though no?

It seems like after the teary eyed press conference, where you pour your heart our and promise to be a good boy, that you would be a good boy no?

The multiple issues after that confession is just as disturbing as how he handled the NCAA investigation IMO.
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There were no issues after his tearful press conference....they were all proven to not be intentional violations by pearl and the only thing that was a violation was a very minor one in scotty getting two extra tickets.

Zo was hired to be above all that but has committed three violations himself.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If you were instructed by your bosses not to lie about it, and cover it up, wouldn't you do as they asked? Especially given what you had just been through?

I think I also heard mentioned that if it was a failed drug test Williams would've been done at Tennessee. Pearl wanted him, so he covered it as a back injury and played Williams later on in the season and tourney iirc.
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If he ccovered up the failed drug test, why sit him at all? Do u not remember the joke of how weak the drug policy is in the sec.....u have to fail something like 5 plus to get kicked off the team......he didnt tell the fans.....the administration knew the whole time he failed it.
 
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volbeast33 said:
There were no issues after his tearful press conference....they were all proven to not be intentional violations by pearl and the only thing that was a violation was a very minor one in scotty getting two extra tickets.
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What was proven..

You just admitted there was a minor violation just days after the press conference. Like I said, if you just went through what he did, and you were told you better not so much as sneeze the wrong way....would you go out breaking very well known rules?

That's just blatant disrespect to your superiors, many of which are still involved with Tennessee, and why many are saying it won't happen.
 
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volbeast33 said:
If he ccovered up the failed drug test, why sit him at all? Do u not remember the joke of how weak the drug policy is in the sec.....u have to fail something like 5 plus to get kicked off the team......he didnt tell the fans.....the administration knew the whole time he failed it.
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And supposedly that was Williams 5th or 6th or whatever it was, because it was rumored he would've been gone had it been known it was a failed drug test.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
What was proven..

You just admitted there was a minor violation just days after the press conference. Like I said, if you just went through what he did, and you were told you better not so much as sneeze the wrong way....would you go out breaking very well known rules?

That's just blatant disrespect to your superiors, many of which are still involved with Tennessee, and why many are saying it won't happen.
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What well known rule did he go out and break?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So the rumors about Urban at Florida, their AD is actually the guy who should be getting blasted?

It wasn't urban covering those up, it was the AD? Lulz
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If u dont think the AD is in the loop then yeah.....drug tests are suppose to be random....I would test walk ons constantly and skip my star players completely lol....I find it hard to believe pearl kicked off major wingate and crews in what could have been great seasons but covered up Brian williams during a marginal season during williams senior year.
 
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volbeast33 said:
If u dont think the AD is in the loop then yeah.....drug tests are suppose to be random....I would test walk ons constantly and skip my star players completely lol....I find it hard to believe pearl kicked off major wingate and crews in what could have been great seasons but covered up Brian williams during a marginal season during williams senior year.
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He was his only true big, and Pearl probably knew the only chance he had of saving his job at that point was a deep tournament run, in which he would likely need Williams.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And you act like Pearl had no idea? :eek:lol:
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I dont know that he didnt just like u dont know that he did.......it was a college kid trying to scope out two extra tickets against his hometown team. If u look hard enough u can find minor things to consider violations in any program....facts are noneof this showed up in the ncaa report so there wasnt anything to them.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I dont know that he didnt just like u dont know that he did.......it was a college kid trying to scope out two extra tickets against his hometown team. If u look hard enough u can find minor things to consider violations in any program....facts are noneof this showed up in the ncaa report so there wasnt anything to them.
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You're gonna defend him tooth and nail that's obvious.

If you can't see that Pearl didn't exactly straighten out like he should've, then you're completely blinded.

I get coaches do stuff, but in his case, hit was probably in his best interest to do nothing even the least bit questionable.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You're gonna defend him tooth and nail that's obvious.

If you can't see that Pearl didn't exactly straighten out like he should've, then you're completely blinded.

I get coaches do stuff, but in his case, hit was probably in his best interest to do nothing even the least bit questionable.
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U would have never heard anything about all three instances if pearl hadnt been in trouble....they were like being caught jaywalking while charged with a felony. Zo committed three similar violations as well. Im not trying to defend but I dont agree with your opinion.....there are several things that pearl could do that I wouldnt want him as our coach but he hasnt done them yet.....all this stuff seems silly and insignificant....I get the lying as being damning and he got punished for it .
 
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volbeast33 said:
U would have never heard anything about all three instances if pearl hadnt been in trouble....they were like being caught jaywalking while charged with a felony. Zo committed three similar violations as well. Im not trying to defend but I dont agree with your opinion.....there are several things that pearl could do that I wouldnt want him as our coach but he hasnt done them yet.....all this stuff seems silly and insignificant....I get the lying as being damning and he got punished for it .
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AJ Johnson just got arrested, he has to be a good boy for what 6 months and charges are dropped?

Littering isn't a huge deal, but it would probably be in his best interest not to do so no?

Point being, when you've gotten yourself under a microscope, you better not look even the wrong way or you're gonna get smacked, and that's what happened.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
AJ Johnson just got arrested, he has to be a good boy for what 6 months and charges are dropped?

Littering isn't a huge deal, but it would probably be in his best interest not to do so no?

Point being, when you've gotten yourself under a microscope, you better not look even the wrong way or you're gonna get smacked, and that's what happened.
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And they will not keep his charges if he gets caught littering......
 
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volbeast33 said:
And they will not keep his charges if he gets caught littering......
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You get what I'm saying. Something very small and dumb could get him in trouble, I unfortunately would know as I had a similar situation at his age.Any trouble with the law I got into and I could have all the charges held against me.

If you don't understand that when you're in that position you better follow the exact rules, and say yes sir no ma'am then there's no point in discussing this. I'm being unbiased, I would take Pearl back and would support the program, I'm simply saying why I can see where some of the big money donors don't want him back, and feel "he $hit in their garden".
 
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1982Alum said:
Well; really both were mistakes.

Pearl: Very good coach, great recruiter and motivator. Can make in game changes easily. Bad side is his propensity to violate NCAA by laws and his dishonest answers when asked by the NCAA. Pearl really forced UT to no other option but to fire him.

Martin: Poor coach based on what I have seen. Poor recruiter as well. In the almost 2 years he has been here, I have seen the team underachieve almost routinely and hardly ever over achieve. It was a stretch when they hired him and it has, in my opinion, been a lousy hire. And I don't see it getting better.
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So hiring Pearl was a bad hire because he got in trouble with the NCAA??? His only major violation was lying and confessing that he lied and get hammered for that. So that means it was a bad hire.......hmmmmm... So his winning ways don't account for anything to you.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
He was his only true big, and Pearl probably knew the only chance he had of saving his job at that point was a deep tournament run, in which he would likely need Williams.
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Here is the flow chart for the drug testing policy for student athletes at UT at the time of Williams incident.

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So CBP orchestrated a massive cover-up of a positive drug test by one of his players? If so then not only was CBP involved but the AD (Mike Hambone Hamilton himself), the team physician, the basketball administrator, the compliance officer, the head athletic trainer, and the substance abuse counselor all swept it under the rug. That is laughable and absurd. There was no cover-up; Brian Williams did not play in two games towards the close of the season for back problems per the coaching staff.

You can call this a cover-up if you wish but that is simply not the truth.

There is also a confidentiality clause in UT’s drug testing policy and procedure and it states as follows:

The University will take every effort to maintain the confidentiality of all information and records associated with this policy, including drug-test results, impending sanctions, remedial measures taken by the University, and/or any counseling and rehabilitation services which a student-athlete may receive. Unless otherwise required by law, drug test results and related records may be disclosed only to (1) members of the Men’s or Women’s Subcommittees, (2) the head coach, (3) sports administrator, (4) the team physician, and/or (5) the team’s designated drug and alcohol counselor. These individuals are to maintain the confidentiality of all drug test results and related information to the extent possible in the implementation of this policy and the performance of their duties. Additionally, positive drug-test results may be provided to the student-athlete’s parent(s). All members of the UT Department of Athletics, including the individuals listed above, are expected to adhere to this Confidentiality Policy at all times. Violation of the policy may incur disciplinary action at the discretion of the Director of Athletics.

Additionally, drug tests are not administered by the coaches or their staff regardless of your assertions and innuendo. The testing protocol during CBP's final year was as follows:

The athlete is notifed of the date and time of the drug test and is required to promply present himself for the drug test at the proper location and provide a photo ID. Contrary to public opinion, the test is not administered by the Tennessee men’s basketball staff rather by a “collection agent appointed by an approved professional laboratory” and the student-athlete is “directly observed” providing a specimen by either the collection agent or approved sports medicine staff member. The approved professional laboratory courier will transport the specimens to the laboratory where they will be received by a laboratory agent who will sign for them. All signatures will attest that the official seal on the specimen bottle remains intact, and that proper chain of custody was maintained. All test results are returned by the testing lab directly to the Head Team Physician who then shares the results with the Men’s Subcommittee (positive results are also communicated to student-athlete’s parents or legal guardian).

Sometimes I wonder if you actually believe some of the garbage that you spew out on this board but I guess you do because you never relent.
 
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