'15 TN DE Dylan Jackson (former UT commit)

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KnoxVillain said:
You're just openly trolling now...
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How exactly am I trolling? Just because I am not blindly claiming every kid is a take and we will sign 35 more this year I am trolling? I feel there is a sure numbers crunch about to happen. Me commenting on it is not trolling, it's just reality. You don't have to read anything I have to say. It only takes 1 click. I promise, I will not be offended. :hi:
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
You're acting like you know he won't grow into an OT. You're just being ignorant
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Just because I don't fall in line with the VN opinion squad I'm ignorant? Nice.

It's in no way ignorant. History would surely support my standing on it vs others claiming it's a sure thing he can throw on 60+pounds and play OT in the SEC. I have said it all along, if he is a 275LB DE in his 2nd year or so at UT, maybe then a move to OT will look to be possible.
 
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Jackson has the frame and potential to play DE, DT, or OT.

I'll trust the coaches to see where he fits and get him ready to play that spot.

Versatility is a good thing.
 
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So, 247, rivals, scout, Buck, and our coaches are open to the fact that he will be an OT, and think he has the most upside there. He has a great frame to add weight, length, and good footwork for the position... and you claiming that it won't happening isn't ignorant. Ok man

Has nothing to do with how VN thinks and everything to do with experts
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
So, 247, rivals, scout, Buck, and our coaches are open to the fact that he will be an OT, and think he has the most upside there. He has a great frame to add weight, length, and good footwork for the position... and you claiming that it won't happening isn't ignorant. Ok man
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Obviously Maryville is not going to tell him to start adding tons of weight as it would hurt his SR year at DE. As I said all along, maybe by his RS So or Jr year at UT he is a candidate for the OL. To talk about him as an SEC OT at 230-235LBS is just funny to me. You can sip the koolaid if you like. I just choose not to. I'm pretty sure Dylan does not support the idea of flipping to OL and wasting years in college trying to pack on 1/2 a person in added weight.
 
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The debate is really not centered on OL/DL because his size should not be debatable. If you can't tell from that picture that he will play college football around 280+ pounds then you really don't have much of an eye for there types of things. His shoulders, chest, and legs scream to add bulk. Now he very well might play DL at 280+ pounds. Or he might move to OL. We don't know that. But too anybody that knows what they are looking at, we do know he will end up in the 280-300 round range.
 
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There's no "koolaid sipping," as you so eloquently put it. Yes, 70-80 lbs is a good amount of weight to add. The likely hood of him being on the field before being a RS sophomore isn't high. That is plenty of time to put on that weight, especially with the way Lawson puts weight on these kids. Emmanuel Moseley and D'Andre Payne have a much smaller frame and put almost 20 lbs on in a little over 2 weeks. It's very plausible to think he can be an OT, and has nothing to do with "sipping koolaid." And you have no idea what Jackson wants to do. Generally, someone will play where they can see the field. If everyone but you thinks his upside is at OT, he's probably well informed of that by now
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Even George Quarles cares more about winning than trying to convert the next "Eric Fisher".
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Much easier to block high school kids on the o-line. Find a big boy and tell him to fire off and drive his man. Have to be much more athletic at the college level. Imo
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
There's no "koolaid sipping," as you so eloquently put it. Yes, 70-80 lbs is a good amount of weight to add. The likely hood of him being on the field before being a RS sophomore isn't high. That is plenty of time to put on that weight, especially with the way Lawson puts weight on these kids. Emmanuel Moseley and D'Andre Payne have a much smaller frame and put almost 20 lbs on in a little over 2 weeks. It's very plausible to think he can be an OT, and has nothing to do with "sipping koolaid." And you have no idea what Jackson wants to do. Generally, someone will play where they can see the field. If everyone but you thinks his upside is at OT, he's probably well informed of that by now
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IMO just about any recruit and or their family would question the thinking of adding that kind of weight and how it would turn out. As I have said before, if Dylan invests the multiple years in college to get to 290-300lbs and then the "plan" does not work out or he is recruited over(VERY LIKELY as UT is always recruiting OT's who already go 300LBS and are ready to go much sooner) the experiment could more less cost the kid his entire college football career. If OT does not work out is Dylan asked to then drop 40+LBS to get back to DE?How many kids the last 4-5 years have signed with UT and they have flip flopped back and forth from offense to defense and were told to add or lose weight to do so? How many have not seen the field because they always seem to be in a transition to another position? IMO it's not the ideal way of doing things. If you need LB's, recruit LB's. If you need OT's, recruit OT's. If you need a QB, don't look at recruits playing Saftey you may be able to convert. As of now, Jackson is a 235LB DE and is in no way a D1 OT prospect. Just the way I see it.
 
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"As of now" is the key part of that entire paragraph. You never seem to project, only see what's in front of you. People in college football project all the time. It's what they are paid to do. You hear about smaller kids gaining tons of weight when they get to college all the time. And, with how our recruiting is going, that Dooley constantly changing positions bull shat won't happen here. It may with Mosley and Robertson, only for the fact that the oline is bare and out of necessity
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
IMO just about any recruit and or their family would question the thinking of adding that kind of weight and how it would turn out. As I have said before, if Dylan invests the multiple years in college to get to 290-300lbs and then the "plan" does not work out or he is recruited over(VERY LIKELY as UT is always recruiting OT's who already go 300LBS and are ready to go much sooner) the experiment could more less cost the kid his entire college football career. If OT does not work out is Dylan asked to then drop 40+LBS to get back to DE?How many kids the last 4-5 years have signed with UT and they have flip flopped back and forth from offense to defense and were told to add or lose weight to do so? How many have not seen the field because they always seem to be in a transition to another position? IMO it's not the ideal way of doing things. If you need LB's, recruit LB's. If you need OT's, recruit OT's. If you need a QB, don't look at recruits playing Saftey you may be able to convert. As of now, Jackson is a 235LB DE and is in no way a D1 OT prospect. Just the way I see it.
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You continue to misunderstand the scenario. It's not a question of him taking a "hiatus" for a couple years hoping to gain weight to play specifically one position. He will naturally gain weight and with that added weight he could transition to OL or he could stay put on DL. Why you continue to argue that gaining weight and playing OL are exclusive is beyond me. He will naturally gain weight because of his frame and the weights and nutrition program. That is not really all that debatable. He will either be a 280-300 pound DL or OL that is the only real question. And like MANY college football players he could spend time at each position at some point in his career and his play will dictate where he fits best.
 
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if anyone is interested, you can go to Rivals and click on database. select football recruiting and click database. select offensive linemen, any year and 235 lbs or heavier. then when the search results come up, click on weight until it lists them from lightest to heaviest. you can see the D1 offensive linemen at certain weights. Jackson could likely be 250-260 when he graduates, so I looked at all the guys from 235-250, and there are several
 
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