The Bruce Pearl Thread

Would you be for Bruce Pearl's return if Martin is fired after next year?


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Still don't know what he said to Crafts dad. I think the ncaa didn't like the call, period, but haven't seen where Pearl asked Crafts dad to lie about the visit.

If people are pissed because he told them not to tell people they were there because its a violation, I guess every coach needs to rot in hell. Some of you folks have no idea what coaches and players hide from others. That's one of the reasons a player/coach relationship is so tight.
 
Still don't know what he said to Crafts dad. I think the ncaa didn't like the call, period, but haven't seen where Pearl asked Crafts dad to lie about the visit.

If people are pissed because he told them not to tell people they were there because its a violation, I guess every coach needs to rot in hell. Some of you folks have no idea what coaches and players hide from others. That's one of the reasons a player/coach relationship is so tight.

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Still don't know what he said to Crafts dad. I think the ncaa didn't like the call, period, but haven't seen where Pearl asked Crafts dad to lie about the visit.

If people are pissed because he told them not to tell people they were there because its a violation, I guess every coach needs to rot in hell. Some of you folks have no idea what coaches and players hide from others. That's one of the reasons a player/coach relationship is so tight.

It's so true. Bottom line is that successful college basketball programs swim in the dirty water.
 
Still don't know what he said to Crafts dad. I think the ncaa didn't like the call, period, but haven't seen where Pearl asked Crafts dad to lie about the visit.

If people are pissed because he told them not to tell people they were there because its a violation, I guess every coach needs to rot in hell. Some of you folks have no idea what coaches and players hide from others. That's one of the reasons a player/coach relationship is so tight.

At the time it was reported that the Crafts showed up at Pearls house unexpectedly. Butch informed them right then that it was a violation for him to be there and that he wouldn't tell if they didn't tell. Later, after Craft signed with OSU, Craft told Matta about the incident and they consequently turned him into the AA. Later, when it was discovered that it was being investigated, Pearl contacted the Craft's dad and asked him to deny it. Obviously Pearl overestimated his relationship with the Crafts. I don't think exact content of the phone call was ever determined.
 
At the time it was reported that the Crafts showed up at Pearls house unexpectedly. Butch informed them right then that it was a violation for him to be there and that he wouldn't tell if they didn't tell. Later, after Craft signed with OSU, Craft told Matta about the incident and they consequently turned him into the AA. Later, when it was discovered that it was being investigated, Pearl contacted the Craft's dad and asked him to deny it. Obviously Pearl overestimated his relationship with the Crafts. I don't think exact content of the phone call was ever determined.


The question is did he really ask him to deny the visit where there is a pic? Or did he discuss their conversations about how they knew it was a violation and both parties discussed it?

I dont think Pearl told Mr craft to act like his son was never there. Just don't believe it. Then again, he did act stupidly and lie about the pic when it was sprung on him anyway so who knows, but I just dont believe that part. "Mr craft, lets act like Aaron wasn't there. Just tell the ncaa he was at home". I don't think that happened. I think ncaa didn't like the call during an investigation, regardless of the conversation and "compromised" the investigstion.
 
The question is did he really ask him to deny the visit where there is a pic? Or did he discuss their conversations about how they knew it was a violation and both parties discussed it?

I dont think Pearl told Mr craft to act like his son was never there. Just don't believe it. Then again, he did act stupidly and lie about the pic when it was sprung on him anyway so who knows, but I just dont believe that part. "Mr craft, lets act like Aaron wasn't there. Just tell the ncaa he was at home". I don't think that happened. I think ncaa didn't like the call during an investigation, regardless of the conversation and "compromised" the investigstion.

It was reported that they discussed that it was a violation when they arrived at the bbq and Pearl responded with something along the lines of "I won't tell if you won't tell". Then later Pearl phoned the dad encouraging him to deny that they were in attendance at the bbq. I find that hard to believe too but that's what was reported.

Edit: To add, I don't think Bruce knew about the pic when he asked Craft's dad to lie. I think the pic was a surprise to Bruce when he had his interview with the AA.
 
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It was reported that they discussed that it was a violation when they arrived at the bbq and Pearl responded with something along the lines of "I won't tell if you won't tell". Then later Pearl phoned the dad encouraging him to deny that they were in attendance at the bbq. I find that hard to believe too but that's what was reported.

Edit: To add, I don't think Bruce knew about the pic when he asked Craft's dad to lie. I think the pic was a surprise to Bruce when he had his interview with the AA.


IV, I realize that's the word. I just don't remember seeing it in print that he told crafts dad to act like they werent there.
At any rate, don't tell anybody about those pizzas or those new shoes, or whatever is an everyday occurence. If he however really did call after the info had come out and tell him to deny, its more stupidity on pearl.
 
Even KSR wants BP back.

The SEC needs action. It needs excitement. It needs bastards. It needs bombast. It needs Bruce Pearl.



[vomits blood into a Tervis]

How do you get people to look at you when you are a nobody? You yell really loudly and/or you con them. That’s what Pearl does better than anyone else in coaching, and that’s what this league needs. Just someone else to awaken a listless fanbase and make people care for a few months. Pearl should absolutely be at the top of the list for every SEC school making a hire.
 
IV, I realize that's the word. I just don't remember seeing it in print that he told crafts dad to act like they werent there.
At any rate, don't tell anybody about those pizzas or those new shoes, or whatever is an everyday occurence. If he however really did call after the info had come out and tell him to deny, its more stupidity on pearl.

Oh yea, I agree with you. I haven't seen anything official on it either just trying to recall what was reported. I think Pearl handled everything about as bad as one could. I think he was counting on the university to have his back and they turned their backs. JMO though. I think Hamilton wanted to keep Bruce and was quickly told it was going to be He and Pearl or just Pearl and he got with the program and was given a golden parachute for his compliance. Again, JMO.
 
It was reported that they discussed that it was a violation when they arrived at the bbq and Pearl responded with something along the lines of "I won't tell if you won't tell". Then later Pearl phoned the dad encouraging him to deny that they were in attendance at the bbq. I find that hard to believe too but that's what was reported.

Edit: To add, I don't think Bruce knew about the pic when he asked Craft's dad to lie. I think the pic was a surprise to Bruce when he had his interview with the AA.

Thats not what craft's dad said in the article that I read.....he was quoted something along the lines of that pearl called and didnt ask them to lie directly but it seemed like thats what he was trying to do.
 
Thats not what craft's dad said in the article that I read.....he was quoted something along the lines of that pearl called and didnt ask them to lie directly but it seemed like thats what he was trying to do.

Your're probably right. I'm relying solely on my memory and my 256K SD card is full and totally corrupted.
 
At the time it was reported that the Crafts showed up at Pearls house unexpectedly. Butch informed them right then that it was a violation for him to be there and that he wouldn't tell if they didn't tell. Later, after Craft signed with OSU, Craft told Matta about the incident and they consequently turned him into the AA. Later, when it was discovered that it was being investigated, Pearl contacted the Craft's dad and asked him to deny it. Obviously Pearl overestimated his relationship with the Crafts. I don't think exact content of the phone call was ever determined.

I'll say. Aaron signing with OSU and then blabbing about the bbq to Thad should have been a red flag that they were not going to hold up their end of the "I wont tell if you don't". IMO
 
The question is did he really ask him to deny the visit where there is a pic? Or did he discuss their conversations about how they knew it was a violation and both parties discussed it?

I dont think Pearl told Mr craft to act like his son was never there. Just don't believe it. Then again, he did act stupidly and lie about the pic when it was sprung on him anyway so who knows, but I just dont believe that part. "Mr craft, lets act like Aaron wasn't there. Just tell the ncaa he was at home". I don't think that happened. I think ncaa didn't like the call during an investigation, regardless of the conversation and "compromised" the investigstion.

The question is you have two version of events. Pearl attempted to say, I (My Staff) told the family earlier in the day that we were having an informal gathering at the house, but that it would be a violation for them to come.

None of the families recall being told anything about a violation until they had been at the party.

Craft Sr.'s account of the phone call is on page 6 of the report. For full context, the report should be read...

And I said, "coach, if that's your story then," you know, "we're gonna have two," you know there's, "it's gonna be your word versus mine. I don't remember you telling us that."

No where has Pearl denied Craft Sr.'s version of the phone call.

To be fair to both sides, the Craft's have said they bear no grudge.


Bruce Pearl admitted he failed to monitor his program.

I live in Knoxville. The things that were going on, not just with the basketball program, football too, rose above the normal boys will be boys stuff. We were making headlines, seemingly month after month. I believed then that there was a lack of leadership, I believe Hamilton wasn't respected by the coaches. I believe the players thought as long as they performed on the court/field they could do whatever they pleased, that they were above the law so to speak.

I got a little tired of the coaches/players being on the "ticker" every time I watched the team play on ESPN.

We have had issues, like last weekend, since. Nothing like what was going on before, the magnitude of it.

I don't hate Pearl, if he ended up coaching here again, it's either get on board or don't, right? I've said that before.

I think Coach Martin is an inexperienced coach. Do I agree with all of his in game strategy, no. He's the coach though, and it doesn't do the team any good, some of the stuff that's going on. Some of it is pretty classless too, regardless of how one feels about the coach, and precisely the reason I changed my tune. It's just 7 games. A coaching change isn't coming before then, petition or not.

Hope I got to everything in this post. Appreciate the debate.

GBO!
 
The question is you have two version of events. Pearl attempted to say, I (My Staff) told the family earlier in the day that we were having an informal gathering at the house, but that it would be a violation for them to come.

None of the families recall being told anything about a violation until they had been at the party.

Craft Sr.'s account of the phone call is on page 6 of the report. For full context, the report should be read...



No where has Pearl denied Craft Sr.'s version of the phone call.

To be fair to both sides, the Craft's have said they bear no grudge.


Bruce Pearl admitted he failed to monitor his program.

I live in Knoxville. The things that were going on, not just with the basketball program, football too, rose above the normal boys will be boys stuff. We were making headlines, seemingly month after month. I believed then that there was a lack of leadership, I believe Hamilton wasn't respected by the coaches. I believe the players thought as long as they performed on the court/field they could do whatever they pleased, that they were above the law so to speak.

I got a little tired of the coaches/players being on the "ticker" every time I watched the team play on ESPN.

We have had issues, like last weekend, since. Nothing like what was going on before, the magnitude of it.

I don't hate Pearl, if he ended up coaching here again, it's either get on board or don't, right? I've said that before.

I think Coach Martin is an inexperienced coach. Do I agree with all of his in game strategy, no. He's the coach though, and it doesn't do the team any good, some of the stuff that's going on. Some of it is pretty classless too, regardless of how one feels about the coach, and precisely the reason I changed my tune. It's just 7 games. A coaching change isn't coming before then, petition or not.

Hope I got to everything in this post. Appreciate the debate.

GBO!

I live in Knoxville too and are well aware of what was going on. I agree with that all the negative stuff surrounding the programs was becoming tiresome. I don't think the basketball team was as out of control as the football team, probably a result of just numbers.

As to the Crafts, why would they hold a grudge? The could have kept their collective mouths shut and nothing would have come of it. I think about everyone would agree the BBQ was minor but it was the ensuing investigation and perceived cover-up that was this big problem. What the Heck do they have to hold a grudge about, they started the whole investigation rolling.

As to coach Martin, he seems to be a great human being. If you are OK with lackluster coaching and the resulting mediocre results as long as we don't have off the court issues then that is your prerogative. But, if that's your criteria for a coach then I am sure we can find someone a lot cheaper than what Cuonzo is making to make sure that the players stay in line.

There are very few calling for him to be fired before the end of the season. I personally don't think he'll be fired at all this season. They'll wait till the end of next season after we're a bubble team for the NIT.
 
Sorry if already posted; from Dane Bradshaw on TOS...

I might regret this...

I've been very reluctant to publicly weigh in on the basketball coaching controversy. I have supported the UT basketball program through thick and thin and I would never want to appear unhelpful to Coach Martin, but it is really painful to read all of the misinformation about our former coach and even the possible motives of our current athletic and academic administration. There are no conspiracies or villains in the "perfect storm" calamity that led to Bruce's dismissal. There were mistakes made by Bruce and UT and both have suffered greatly for it. Posters on this board have made up conspiratorial lies about Mike Slive, Dave Hart, Dr. Cheek, and (most of all ) Bruce Pearl. If anyone is interested I would like to add a little bit of perspective:

Mike Slive:

The common perception among Tennessee fans is that Slive hates UT and especially hates Bruce Pearl because he was the attorney who defended Illinois when Bruce was the "whistleblower" in the Deon Thomas case in1989. I have never read anything that mentions the actual facts. Illinois eventually fired Slive because they felt like he essentially believed Bruce and he was simply trying to get them to fess up and accept lesser penalties for co-operating. Illinois was guilty as sin. Bruce had a tape of the kid admitting that he was supposed to receive over $100,000 in benefits in exchange for a commitment. The kid even admitted that he was flattered because he was going to be the highest paid kid in the history of the program. Illinois eventually hired a different firm that decided to focus on discrediting Bruce and they absolutely HAMMERED him in the Chicago press. They eventually found out that Bruce gave Thomas a warm up suit and that he was encouraging one of his friends to apply for a manager position that would have resulted in a scholarship if the kid got the job. To this day, Illinois fans cannot distinguish between a logo sweat suit and a SUV and $80,000. Dick Vitale commented that Bruce had committed career suicide.

Dave Hart:

Dave Hart is a very smart and respected guy. I hate this term, but he walked into a dumpster fire. Tennessee should be an overall Top 5 athletic department and I absolutely hate it when people on this board say that we should accept mediocrity. Tennessee is a heavily populated and growing state that has the luxury of only one major athletic program in its boundaries. We have huge arenas and stadiums for a reason. Tennessee and Ohio State are the only two schools to ever finish in the top 5 in attendance for football and basketball in the same year. Forbes magazine does an annual ranking of the value of college athletic brands. When Doug Dickey retired ,Tennessee was in the top 4 with Ohio State, Florida, and Texas. We are currently in the 20's and dropping like a lead balloon. There is absolutely no excuse for the massive decline in our on the field performances, but absolutely none of that is Dave's fault. He is part of the solution and he deserves tremendous credit for beginning to fix the complicated relationship with the academic side.

It is important to remember that everyone associated with the athletic department believed that the basketball team would have a very good season this year. The Bruce Pearl dilemma was a non-starter because we have a coach and Bruce would definitely be coaching somewhere else next year. It was very easy to say that Bruce would never coach here because it looked like the timing wouldn't allow the possibility. The circumstances have obviously changed and Dave is in a very uncomfortable spot.

On one hand, he can't win by hiring Pearl. Bruce is not his guy and he gets no credit for his success and he will be lampooned in the unlikely event that Bruce fails. There is the added theory that the move could be unpopular in the SEC offices in Birmingham and many people think that Dave could be in line for a shot at SEC commissioner.

On the other hand, it could be argued that he can't lose by hiring Pearl. In the unlikely event that Pearl fails, everyone would know that this was a "booster" hire and Dave would escape responsibility. In the very likely scenario (that Bruce restores the program), Dave is in the very enviable position of having a top notch basketball program run by a loyal coach. We can simply enjoy the ride until Bruce retires. We would likely be a perennial top 10 basketball program when he's done.

I've had a lot of business success, and one of the tenants we live by is that we would rather build a cage around a lion, than try to teach a lamb how to hunt. Bruce is a lion and he understands that he needs a strong administrator to help cage him. Bruce has a very hard time telling people no. He is the most generous person I know and he needs someone from the athletic department to protect him from his natural kindness. John Currey was attached to Bruce's hip until he left for Kansas State. He protected Bruce and Bruce appreciated it.

Dave is going to hear from a lot of people in the next few weeks. Bruce has so many friends in Knoxville and many of them are the key donors. I am sure that there is a major donor that doesn't support him, but I don't know who that is and I know almost everyone in that group. If a change is made, and it is not Bruce, it is going to further dampen the (already) muted support that the department is getting. I love my alma mater, and I want to blindly support her decisions, but I am now to the point that I feel like I am hurting the program by continuing to feed mediocrity. I have always found that if you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. I can no longer pay top dollar for horrific results and I'm not alone.

With all of that said, I think that a conversation will take place at the very least.

Dr. Cheek:

I don't know Dr. Cheek personally, but a lot of people I respect, think highly of him. I've seen a lot of people who want Bruce to return, write incredibly cruel and unflattering things about a man that they want to win over to their perspective.....not smart.
I am certain that Dr. Cheek probably doesn't live and die with every missed free throw like most of the basketball fanatics that are passionate towards UT hoops, but I do think he wants to win and that he would love the added revenue associated with a Pearl led basketball program. It is pretty clear that Bruce and Dr. Cheek need to meet. There needs to be assurances that even minor infractions won't occur. I think this is best accomplished by having an aide with Bruce at all times that reports directly to compliance. One $70,000 employee would yield tens of millions of dollars to the university. I am fairly certain that Bruce would welcome this condition where ever he coaches next year. He should never have to go through this again and he will always invite extra scrutiny because of his popularity and perceived whistleblower status.

Bruce Pearl:

I am not objective or rationale when it comes to Bruce Pearl. I love the guy. I could write a novel accurately disputing the false accusations that two or three very dedicated posters spew on here daily, but I don't have the time and another poster said it very briefly in another post:




Originally posted by ltullock:
As a former federal prosecutor, I would normally be the first person to argue against rehiring someone at an institution where he has committed an offense or was caught in a series of lies. And yet, if Cuonzo does not pull a miracle out of his hat to reinject life into this basketball program, I am firmly on the bring back Bruce train. Here are my reasons:

1. He was punished harshly for his stupid mistakes and has served his penalty with class - neither embarrassing himself, UT, or the NCAA in the process.
2. In my 60 yesrs of watching UT basketball, there have been only 2 coaches that had the full package to succeed at UT, inject excitement, and fill the seats consistently - Ray Mears and Bruce Pearl. You have to be a great recruiter because we do not have an easy close strong recruiting base. You have to be a master marketer because we have a very large arena to fill. And you have to be a good x and o coach to win close games.
3. Bruce has continued to be loyal to Knoxville and UT during his time in purgatory. He loves it here and loves UT - he has supported the present coach and team and has been nothing but positive in his comments and representation of our area on ESPN. Ignoring a proven perfect fit who lives in our backyard and would not require a buyout would be idiocy.
4. The violations Bruce was involved in were very minor to begin with, followed up by stupidity in a coverup caused by loyalty and overreaction. I see people talk about a prior pattern of lying early in his career, but I instead see someone who cooperated with the NCAA to expose cheating, thereby making him unpopular in the good old boy coaching fraternity. I see no ongoing pattern of blatant cheating or dishonesty on his part. In other words, I see mistakes that are correctable, not ongoing major character flaws. A very tight contract can limit any risk UT has in rehiring Pearl.
5. I can't stand the thought of UT playing against him, watching him on the sideline of Alabama, Georgia, or Memphis. It is inconceivable that he is not going to be hired by someone when his show cause is over.

I do believe Dave Hart will need to broker fence mending between Pearl and the UT administration, Mike Slive, and the NCAA, but I believe Hart has that capacity.
 
I live in Knoxville too and are well aware of what was going on. I agree with that all the negative stuff surrounding the programs was becoming tiresome. I don't think the basketball team was as out of control as the football team, probably a result of just numbers.

As to the Crafts, why would they hold a grudge? The could have kept their collective mouths shut and nothing would have come of it. I think about everyone would agree the BBQ was minor but it was the ensuing investigation and perceived cover-up that was this big problem. What the Heck do they have to hold a grudge about, they started the whole investigation rolling.

I don't think your statement about nothing coming of it is accurate. Had they changed their story and been found out, Craft would've lost his eligibility. That must have been a heavy weight, no?

As to coach Martin, he seems to be a great human being. If you are OK with lackluster coaching and the resulting mediocre results as long as we don't have off the court issues then that is your prerogative. But, if that's your criteria for a coach then I am sure we can find someone a lot cheaper than what Cuonzo is making to make sure that the players stay in line.

I never said I didn't hope we'd win more games or the team should come out and play flat against Vandy, that's not acceptable to me.

However, I disagree with a great many that this is some top 25 team. Maybe if what we all hoped in the pre-season had come true I'd feel differently. If Barton is an up grade, Maymon is healthy and Hubbs will contribute, if all that had been true, maybe, yeah. That's not what happened. Seems like a lot of folks didn't adjust there expectations with the reality of the situation. Further, I don't see a lot of criticism pointed at McRae, Maymon and Barton for a lack of leadership. It's their time, it's their team. The Coach deserves blame, but so do the seniors, who turn the ball over constantly, make lazy passes, pout when the get a foul, miss lay ups, miss foul shots at crucial times. They aren't freshmen, you can't treat them like freshmen.

Cuonzo is in the bottom half of the league with regards to pay. If you go out and hire a similarly experienced coach, why would his agent take less? The more experienced, the more post season, the more your going to pay, jmo.


There are very few calling for him to be fired before the end of the season. I personally don't think he'll be fired at all this season. They'll wait till the end of next season after we're a bubble team for the NIT.

For a firing in general, sounds, reads, like a lot more than a few. People can say what they want, there's a way to go about it, a more decent way jmo.

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Mods if you feel the need to merge or delete this go ahead. It's from a poster named dane on VQ and I felt like it should be shared.

I've been very reluctant to publicly weigh in on the basketball coaching controversy. I have supported the UT basketball program through thick and thin and I would never want to appear unhelpful to Coach Martin, but it is really painful to read all of the misinformation about our former coach and even the possible motives of our current athletic and academic administration. There are no conspiracies or villains in the "perfect storm" calamity that led to Bruce's dismissal. There were mistakes made by Bruce and UT and both have suffered greatly for it. Posters on this board have made up conspiratorial lies about Mike Slive, Dave Hart, Dr. Cheek, and (most of all ) Bruce Pearl. If anyone is interested I would like to add a little bit of perspective:

Mike Slive:

The common perception among Tennessee fans is that Slive hates UT and especially hates Bruce Pearl because he was the attorney who defended Illinois when Bruce was the "whistleblower" in the Deon Thomas case in1989. I have never read anything that mentions the actual facts. Illinois eventually fired Slive because they felt like he essentially believed Bruce and he was simply trying to get them to fess up and accept lesser penalties for co-operating. Illinois was guilty as sin. Bruce had a tape of the kid admitting that he was supposed to receive over $100,000 in benefits in exchange for a commitment. The kid even admitted that he was flattered because he was going to be the highest paid kid in the history of the program. Illinois eventually hired a different firm that decided to focus on discrediting Bruce and they absolutely HAMMERED him in the Chicago press. They eventually found out that Bruce gave Thomas a warm up suit and that he was encouraging one of his friends to apply for a manager position that would have resulted in a scholarship if the kid got the job. To this day, Illinois fans can not distinguish between a logo sweat suit and a SUV and $80,000. Dick Vitale commented that Bruce had committed career suicide.

Dave Hart:

Dave Hart is a very smart and respected guy. I hate this term, but he walked into a dumpster fire. Tennessee should be an overall Top 5 athletic department and I absolutely hate it when people on this board say that we should accept mediocrity. Tennessee is a heavily populated and growing state that has the luxury of only one major athletic program in it's boundaries. We have huge arenas and stadiums for a reason. Tennessee and Ohio State are the only two schools to ever finish in the top 5 in attendance for football and basketball in the same year. Forbes magazine does an annual ranking of the value of college athletic brands. When Doug Dickey retired ,Tennessee was in the top 4 with Ohio State, Florida, and Texas. We are currently in the 20's and dropping like a lead balloon. There is absolutely no excuse for the massive decline in our on the field performances, but absolutely none of that is Dave's fault. He is part of the solution and he deserves tremendous credit for beginning to fix the complicated relationship with the academic side.

It is important to remember that everyone associated with the athletic department believed that the basketball team would have a very good season this year. The Bruce Pearl dilemma was a non-starter because we have a coach and Bruce would definitely be coaching somewhere else next year. It was very easy to say that Bruce would never coach here because it looked like the timing wouldn't allow the possibility. The circumstances have obviously changed and Dave is in a very uncomfortable spot.

On one hand, he can't win by hiring Pearl. Bruce is not his guy and he gets no credit for his success and he will be lampooned in the unlikely event that Bruce fails. There is the added theory that the move could be unpopular in the SEC offices in Birmingham and many people think that Dave could be in line for a shot at SEC commissioner.

On the other hand, it could be argued that he can't lose by hiring Pearl. In the unlikely event that Pearl fails, everyone would know that this was a "booster" hire and Dave would escape responsibility. In the very likely scenario (that Bruce restores the program), Dave is in the very enviable position of having a top notch basketball program run by a loyal coach. We can simply enjoy the ride until Bruce retires. We would likely be a perennial top 10 basketball program when he's done.

I've had a lot of business success, and one of the tenants we live by is that we would rather build a cage around a lion, than try to teach a lamb how to hunt. Bruce is a lion and he understands that he needs a strong administrator to help cage him. Bruce has a very hard time telling people no. He is the most generous person I know and he needs someone from the athletic department to protect him from his natural kindness. John Currey was attached to Bruce's hip until he left for Kansas State. He protected Bruce and Bruce appreciated it.

Dave is going to hear from a lot of people in the next few weeks. Bruce has so many friends in Knoxville and many of them are the key donors. I am sure that there is a major donor that doesn't support him, but I don't know who that is and I know almost everyone in that group. If a change is made, and it is not Bruce, it is going to further dampen the (already) muted support that the department is getting. I love my alma mater, and I want to blindly support her decisions, but I am now to the point that I feel like I am hurting the program by continuing to feed mediocrity. I have always found that if you reward bad behavior, you get more of it. I can no longer pay top dollar for horrific results and I'm not alone.

With all of that said, I think that a conversation will take place at the very least.

Dr. Cheek:

I don't know Dr. Cheek personally, but a lot of people I respect, think highly of him. I've seen a lot of people who want Bruce to return, write incredibly cruel and unflattering things about a man that they want to win over to their perspective.....not smart.
I am certain that Dr. Cheek probably doesn't live and die with every missed free throw like most of the basketball fanatics that are passionate towards UT hoops, but I do think he wants to win and that he would love the added revenue associated with a Pearl led basketball program. It is pretty clear that Bruce and Dr. Cheek need to meet. There needs to be assurances that even minor infractions won't occur. I think this is best accomplished by having an aide with Bruce at all times that reports directly to compliance. One $70,000 employee would yield tens of millions of dollars to the university. I am fairly certain that Bruce would welcome this condition where ever he coaches next year. He should never have to go through this again and he will always invite extra scrutiny because of his popularity and perceived whistleblower status.

Bruce Pearl:

I am not objective or rationale when it comes to Bruce Pearl. I love the guy. I could write a novel accurately disputing the false accusations that two or three very dedicated posters spew on here daily, but I don't have the time and another poster said it very briefly in another post:




Originally posted by ltullock:
As a former federal prosecutor, I would normally be the first person to argue against rehiring someone at an institution where he has committed an offense or was caught in a series of lies. And yet, if Cuonzo does not pull a miracle out of his hat to reinject life into this basketball program, I am firmly on the bring back Bruce train. Here are my reasons:

1. He was punished harshly for his stupid mistakes and has served his penalty with class - neither embarrassing himself, UT, or the NCAA in the process.
2. In my 60 yesrs of watching UT basketball, there have been only 2 coaches that had the full package to succeed at UT, inject excitement, and fill the seats consistently - Ray Mears and Bruce Pearl. You have to be a great recruiter because we do not have an easy close strong recruiting base. You have to be a master marketer because we have a very large arena to fill. And you have to be a good x and o coach to win close games.
3. Bruce has continued to be loyal to Knoxville and UT during his time in purgatory. He loves it here and loves UT - he has supported the present coach and team and has been nothing but positive in his comments and representation of our area on ESPN. Ignoring a proven perfect fit who lives in our backyard and would not require a buyout would be idiocy.
4. The violations Bruce was involved in were very minor to begin with, followed up by stupidity in a coverup caused by loyalty and overreaction. I see people talk about a prior pattern of lying early in his career, but I instead see someone who cooperated with the NCAA to expose cheating, thereby making him unpopular in the good old boy coaching fraternity. I see no ongoing pattern of blatant cheating or dishonesty on his part. In other words, I see mistakes that are correctable, not ongoing major character flaws. A very tight contract can limit any risk UT has in rehiring Pearl.
5. I can't stand the thought of UT playing against him, watching him on the sideline of Alabama, Georgia, or Memphis. It is inconceivable that he is not going to be hired by someone when his show cause is over.

I do believe Dave Hart will need to broker fence mending between Pearl and the UT administration, Mike Slive, and the NCAA, but I believe Hart has that capacity.
 
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I've read this a couple times now, am I missing something or is it basically what has been getting said for months?

People want Bruce, the 2 sides should talk, he was very successful and is a good coach, but it likely won't happen?
 
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