(Doesn't) Matter Who Coaches Ut.......

I think he is an average QB......I dont think he plays with intensity or fire......he never lays it on the line and he isn't a leader, that is what I say.....can you refute this??

No. I can see your point on this. I don't agree, but I can see were you are coming from.

I just find it extremely funny that talking about a player's shortcomings aren't looked at as "negativity" by some when saying the coaching isn't what it should be is called being a "hater" by those questioning the players.

It's extremely hypocritical seeing as how the coaches are the one that are supposedly going to put the best 11 out there and not allow a team to give away 21 points. Bottom line, the players are put into position by these coaches. If the players aren't executing, it is the coach's job to make changes. What is lacking? You tell me
 
I think he is an average QB......I dont think he plays with intensity or fire......he never lays it on the line and he isn't a leader, that is what I say.....can you refute this??

I've been making those 3 points for 2 years. Nobody can even dispute those hard facts.
 
Last night he looked terrible throwing to open receivers, and I think that is why we went to that screen pass crap in order to try and get him settled down and hit some receivers. What was weird is he came out lame, started looking awesome, and then went back to being lame. In the second half our offense didn't do anything, and seriously Crompton couldn't have done any worse regardless of what you think of him. I'm sure he could hit those bum screen passes too. Ainge didn't do anything to help us win the game in the second half, but I"ll take his first half performance once he looked to have settled down some. I think his problem last night was the same as the rest of the team's, consistency.
 
maybe he just needs a little coaching!!! is that not what they are their for


......you can't coach nerve and he lost that after the ND injury a few years back. he is a good qb and is clearly not our problem this year, but to all the Coach Cut disciples....stick a cork in it! you got what you wished for!
 
Look up the definition of fact. Then, beat yourself to death with the dictionary.

This coming from a guy that would give Trent Dilfer and Mark Rypien "credit" for winning Super Bowls just because they were behind the center...
 
This coming from a guy that would give Trent Dilfer and Mark Rypien "credit" for winning Super Bowls just because they were behind the center...

I didn't give Ainge credit for anything. You said he wasn't clutch or something to that effect. There was a game-tying drive last night. Ainge was the QB. There you go. I gave you several other examples.
 
OH.....now you too think you have more intellect just because I don't agree with all of the Fire Fulmer stuff that you guys sit here and whine about day after day after day.......go get you're Geritol and try to think of something new!
....brother, Geritol Vols are why Fulmer is still there....
 
You will notice that I am a HUGE defender of NOT "running players down". I laughed at the "heart of a lion" thing because for all he was ....I would'nt pick thoses words.....you may actually be a TN coach because one common denominator when they speak is "We may not have the best athletes"....or "We got out-athleted today". Look coach, you guys could have swapped teams, in your three losses, for a week and played with the opposing players and still gotten your butts kicked. So....leadership # 1 State the obvious
leadership # 2 Take the heat you're due and quit blaming players...they are playing here for free and out of love for the uni and team
leadership # 2 Take chances...quit playing "not to lose"
There's a few to work on this week coach
 
OK.....I got my Geriatric Slobbers rule book out...

1. Hate Phil Fulmer

2. Everything is coaching

3. Hate Phil Fulmer

4. Players aren't accountable

5. Hate Fulmer

6. Coaches need to go

7. Hate Fulmer

8. If someone doesn't agree with us, belittle them

9. Hate Fulmer

10. We know all and what's best for our program!!

gotcha!! I will live by this!!

I've said time and time again on this board that I like Phil Fulmer as a man, A LOT! Which makes this all the much harder.

Go read this: The Power T: It's Time
 
Saying Ainge is the root of our problems is absolutley ridiclious.

On the other hand, claiming (like someone did in this thread) he is a 1st round draft pick is about just as ridiclious.
 
Saying Ainge is the root of our problems is absolutley ridiclious.

On the other hand, claiming (like someone did in this thread) he is a 1st round draft pick is about just as ridiclious.

Just as ridiculous are those that claim that Ainge "won" this game for Tennessee just because he was behind the center. He did nothing in that game to make you say that he "won it" for us, unless you count handing the ball off to Foster so he could fumble it and have McClendon recover in field goal range... and even then, that lead us to a tying (not go ahead) fg.
 
What a worthless thread. I'm tired of these stupid cliches like "winnner". Guess what the major knock on Peyton Manning was until just a few months ago?

Now that I think about it. It took our coaching staff four years to win just one championship with Peyton Manning. We only got that championship because Florida dropped the ball and UT lucked into the SEC Championship game. Additionally, we lost to a pathetic Memphis team that season and got drilled by Nebraska in our bowl game. Manning will likely go down as the best QB of his generation. Now who isn't a winner?

Uh... the loss to Memphis was in 1996, not 1997. The Vols were #3 when they played Nebraska. The gameplan for that game included: 1) drain the fluid off of Peyton's knee, 2) shotgun every play, and 3) get rid of the ball as quickly as possible so that Manning won't get hurt. Therefore, a defense (Nebraska) that had problems ALL season defending the deep pass never was threatened because Manning never threw the ball longer than 10 yards.
 
Uh... the loss to Memphis was in 1996, not 1997. The Vols were #3 when they played Nebraska. The gameplan for that game included: 1) drain the fluid off of Peyton's knee, 2) shotgun every play, and 3) get rid of the ball as quickly as possible so that Manning won't get hurt. Therefore, a defense (Nebraska) that had problems ALL season defending the deep pass never was threatened because Manning never threw the ball longer than 10 yards.


That last sentence sounds hauntingly familiar!
 
Erik made some unbelievable throws in the game. He is not the problem!!! I was more dissappointed in our inability to run the ball against SC.

I wonder if the SC defense had anything to do with that? answer......You have a good offense that ran into a pretty good defense. Give credit where credit is due and stop beating yourself up. You know I read in the paper this morning that if UT loses two of its three SEC games and SC wins its last two coupled with one UGA loss SC wins the east.....At first I thought, NO Chance that UT loses two games....but if the UT players are anything like the people in this message room......there is a great chance. Wake up....
 
Just as ridiculous are those that claim that Ainge "won" this game for Tennessee just because he was behind the center. He did nothing in that game to make you say that he "won it" for us, unless you count handing the ball off to Foster so he could fumble it and have McClendon recover in field goal range... and even then, that lead us to a tying (not go ahead) fg.

TVA this is getting tiresome. Ainge clearly had a bad night, but he did piece together a couple of drives in the first half to give us a big lead and then held it together enough to get the 25-30 yards we needed to get in FG range at the end of regulation.

There's something to be said for being able to win when you are not at your best.
 
To write off Ainge so quickly after one bad game when the offense has been the only glimmer of anything more than a mediocre football team is just silly. Especially considering we don't have a receiver who can beat anyone deep, we are forced into a medium to short passing game that the defenses know we are going to use. In spite of that we have had good success with it almost all year. Our defense is abysmal and you pick one poor showing to throw Ainge under the bus. :no:
 
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