Republicans Belief in Evolution plummets

[Septic]

the fact he's in jail for fraud does definitely imply he's a fraud. Also the articles on his wager were interesting. I assume you read them before declaring it valid?

That tends to happen when your implicated, tried and convicted for wait for it....








Fraud.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I've not implied your intellectually inferior, although it's a safe bet I may be thinking it. Interestingly enough you've accidentally made a great point about how far we've come with science.

Science hasn't answer all the questions, but every day our knowledge grows exponentially.

When making a tongue in cheek remark about another persons intelligence...make sure to check for homonyms. *you're

Priceless.

 

[Obsessed]

That tends to happen when your implicated, tried and convicted for wait for it....









Fraud.

When are you going to tell me why a Bigfoot couldn't exist? Why couldn't such a creature exist some where in the middle of this evolution?

 

[Septic]

When making a tongue in cheek remark about another persons intelligence...make sure to check for homonyms. *you're

Priceless.

Ehh, it comes with the territory when typing on a tablet. I like to live dangerously.

 

[utvolpj]

PJ. Tax fraud is always the last straw with the fed when they can't shut you up any other way. (Or stop you legally). Cough Capone cough

he claimed the people working for him were simply missionaries (who clocked in/out and had vacation/sick time) that he gave money to for their time and labor but were not employees. He claimed his amusement park admission and merchandise sales belonged to God and cannot be taxed

the guy was using people like marcus to make a lot of money and didn't want to pay up. Capone sounds smarter than this guy

it also appears the title of Dr isn't even legit

 

[Obsessed]

he claimed the people working for him were simply missionaries (who clocked in/out and had vacation/sick time) that he gave money to for their time and labor but were not employees. He claimed his amusement park admission and merchandise sales belonged to God and cannot be taxed

the guy was using people like marcus to make a lot of money and didn't want to pay up. Capone sounds smarter than this guy

And?

As opposed to Capone?

I'm sure he abused the system (tax code) but who hasn't?

This some how makes him less credible? PJ his abuse of the tax code is irrelevant to his findings. Find faults in his "theory". Not his tax practices.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

If you would actually watch the video I would have some good questions to ask about some of the evidence for his claims. For example, if there wasn't a worldwide flood, how are there petrified trees, INVERTED, spanning over a hundred feet? 100 vertical feet in this particular example spans millions of years due to themany layers of limestone that surround the trees. Did those trees stand upside down for millions of years while layer and layer of limestone formed around them? Its easy to find fault in Dr Hovind. I would like someone to explain away the scientific evidence he presents. Did you know that based on the surrounding rock formations the Colorado river would have had to flow UPHILL for many millions of years in order to cut thru the rock and form the grand canyon? Watch the video. I don't agree with everything the guy says. I do agree that the textbooks public school kids read are full of lies.

 

[utvolpj]

And?

As opposed to Capone?

I'm sure he abused the system (tax code) but who hasn't?

This some how makes him less credible? PJ his abuse of the tax code is irrelevant to his findings. Find faults in his "theory". Not his tax practices.

his "theory" has absolutely no scientific background as his education appears to be a....

wait for it....

wait....

fraud too!

 

[SergeantVol]

I posted that pj knowing exactly where he is. He went to prison for tax evasion because he refused to pay the government. The lies he calls out in the textbooks are still lies. Most are even KNOWN to be lies by the folks who print them. Such as "human embryos have gill slits because of evolution" this was still being put in textbooks in the 90s to support evolution. It was exposed as fraud when it was put out as propoganda by Hitlers Reich 50 years before. The fact that he is incarcerated does not make the garbage that is intentionally put in textbooks somehow become truth.

Not paying taxes or Obamacare means your creditability is gone.

 

[Septic]

When are you going to tell me why a Bigfoot couldn't exist? Why couldn't such a creature exist some where in the middle of this evolution?

Oh, that was your question? I thought we'd moved on from such a sophistical arguments. I thought I cleared that up.

Again, I can't say that bigfoot hasn't existed or does exist. To date, I've seen no credible evidence to support that he did however. Before you ask, I've not seen, read or heard about credible evidence for Nesse, Leprechauns, Unicorns, Trolls, Chuds, Fairy's, Santa, Zeus or The Easter Bunny. Do you have some? If you do, get peer reviewed and I'll gladly change my position.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Went to school in the 90's, never saw gills on embryos except on the internet.

His video isn't vague. It says "Holt biology, 1991". Then shows the cover of the book...the page number..and the lies. My HS biology book contained a series of "horselike" animals becoming a horse...that gained...and then lost...and then gained...ribs. 11...13....12....that's not even evolution. That's ignorance. He calls out the exact book I had in 9th grade. Check it out.

 

[Septic]

If you would actually watch the video I would have some good questions to ask about some of the evidence for his claims. For example, if there wasn't a worldwide flood, how are there petrified trees, INVERTED, spanning over a hundred feet? 100 vertical feet in this particular example spans millions of years due to themany layers of limestone that surround the trees. Did those trees stand upside down for millions of years while layer and layer of limestone formed around them? Its easy to find fault in Dr Hovind. I would like someone to explain away the scientific evidence he presents. Did you know that based on the surrounding rock formations the Colorado river would have had to flow UPHILL for many millions of years in order to cut thru the rock and form the grand canyon? Watch the video. I don't agree with everything the guy says. I do agree that the textbooks public school kids read are full of lies.

You gave this guy money, didn't you. :sad:

 

[marcusluvsvols]

he claimed the people working for him were simply missionaries (who clocked in/out and had vacation/sick time) that he gave money to for their time and labor but were not employees. He claimed his amusement park admission and merchandise sales belonged to God and cannot be taxed

the guy was using people like marcus to make a lot of money and didn't want to pay up. Capone sounds smarter than this guy

it also appears the title of Dr isn't even legit

So you have enough time on your hands to find out his shoe size and what color underwear he prefers but not to watch him shoot holes the size of a bus in the textbooks full of lies our kids are forcefed? Makes sense.

 

[Obsessed]

Oh, that was your question? I thought we'd moved on from such a sophistical arguments. I thought I cleared that up.

Again, I can't say that bigfoot hasn't existed or does exist. To date, I've seen no credible evidence to support that he did however. Before you ask, I've not seen, read or heard about credible evidence for Nesse, Leprechauns, Unicorns, Trolls, Chuds, Fairy's, Santa, Zeus or The Easter Bunny. Do you have some? If you do, get peer reviewed and I'll gladly change my position.

Saved a lot of bandwidth by saying you don't know and can't prove it either way.

It's ok. I get it.

You can't prove anything, other than what's in a book you read.

Hmmmmmmm

Maybe we aren't so different.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

You can criticize the man. You can criticize me. That's easy. Disprove the lies he calls out in the textbooks. You can't.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Disprove the fact that there are trees, petrified, inverted that pass thru layers of imestone spanning "hundreds of millions of years"

Disprove the exact pictures, pages, and specific textbooks he shows that willingly show charts for evolution that were proven to be lies 50 years before the book was printed. (Like gill slits, horse creatures, etx.)

Disprove the fact that based on the elevations of the rock formations surrounding the grand canyon that the colorado river would have had to defy gravity and flow UPHILL for hundreds of millions of years...

There are so many more. Its easy to shoot holes in me. Shoot holes in the science he presents. I don't think you can. Without lying anyway...

 

[Septic]

Saved a lot of bandwidth by saying you don't know and can't prove it either way.

It's ok. I get it.

You can't prove anything, other than what's in a book you read.

Hmmmmmmm

Maybe we aren't so different.

What? No. I don't think you do get it, champ.

I've said that all along about your imbecilic bigfoot question.

For the last time. Read this slowly. SLOWLY.

Evolution has mountains of credible evidence. Bigfoot does not have any credible evidence. Show me the evidence and I'll change my position. Your strawman argument holds no water.

 

[SergeantVol]

What? No. I don't think you do get it, champ.

I've said that all along about your imbecilic bigfoot question.

For the last time. Read this slowly. SLOWLY.

Evolution has mountains of credible evidence. Bigfoot does not have any credible evidence. Show me the evidence and I'll change my position. Your strawman argument holds no water.

Are we saying the lack of evidence proves Bigfoot does not exist? That would only leave it at a possibility unless there is evidence proving that it cannot exist. The burden of proof goes both ways.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Yes you do present it as fact. That's the problem. And what is worse little smug punks like you imply that somehow others are intellectually inferior because we don't agree. That's when I call BS.. Believing you came from a primate requires faith. It cannot be observed or proven. There is no conclusive fossil record. The fact that many scientists (certainly not all) believe this THEORY impresses me none. The greatest scientists on earth thought that the earth was flat and the sun revolved around it just a couple hundred years ago. You would have swallowed that one too.....hook line and sinker. They were wrong about that as well.

Excellent post.

 

[Obsessed]

Are we saying the lack of evidence proves Bigfoot does not exist? That would only leave it at a possibility unless there is evidence proving that it cannot exist. The burden of proof goes both ways.

Thank you.

This was my point. But ole boy either didn't grasp it or was ignoring it. I'll bet on the later

 

[utvolpj]

polystrate fossils and a 6000yo earth. There are enough articles shooting holes in his theories that you can google.

from the couple I read if this guy was teaching my kid science I would beat him with a textbook

 

[Obsessed]

What? No. I don't think you do get it, champ.

I've said that all along about your imbecilic bigfoot question.

For the last time. Read this slowly. SLOWLY.

Evolution has mountains of credible evidence. Bigfoot does not have any credible evidence. Show me the evidence and I'll change my position. Your strawman argument holds no water.

No water?

You couldn't pour water out of a boot if the directions were on bottom. You can't grasp a simple equation I presented to you.

So please. Spare me.

 

[Obsessed]

polystrate fossils and a 6000yo earth. There are enough articles shooting holes in his theories that you can google.

from the couple I read if this guy was teaching my kid science I would beat him with a textbook

You don't like opposing theory's?

You don't like open minds?

You don't care for differing trains of thought?

Must be your way? No other thoughts or theory's allowed?

 

[Septic]

Disprove the fact that there are trees, petrified, inverted that pass thru layers of imestone spanning "hundreds of millions of years"

Disprove the exact pictures, pages, and specific textbooks he shows that willingly show charts for evolution that were proven to be lies 50 years before the book was printed. (Like gill slits, horse creatures, etx.)

Disprove the fact that based on the elevations of the rock formations surrounding the grand canyon that the colorado river would have had to defy gravity and flow UPHILL for hundreds of millions of years...

There are so many more. Its easy to shoot holes in me. Shoot holes in the science he presents. I don't think you can. Without lying anyway...

The most awesome of your demands is for us to disprove your exact pictures, pages and textbooks.

The rest of the things you've said, the grand canyon for example was debunked by geologists with you know.... real Phd's.

Not the Patriot Bible University diploma mill. Do yourself a favor and read up on his "education" before trying to drop Hovind knowledge.


Hovinds Alama Mater, no really.

 

[Septic]

Are we saying the lack of evidence proves Bigfoot does not exist? That would only leave it at a possibility unless there is evidence proving that it cannot exist. The burden of proof goes both ways.

Who's we? Did you say something?