Republicans Belief in Evolution plummets

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#726
Obsessed said:
Psalm 22


.Crucifixion came along in Persia about 600 BC, ended under Constantine about 400 AD. King David died about 360 years before that practice was recorded in history. He prophesied in Psalm 22. God gave David a prayer spoken for Jesus before the birth of Jesus. Psalm 22:[11] "Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. [12] Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. [13] They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. [14] I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. [15] My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. [16] For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. [17] I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. [18] They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture."
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What makes that about crucifixion? And you do know that Psalms was written over period of about 500 years, and that there absolutely nothing points to them being written by David.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What makes that about crucifixion? And you do know that Psalms was written over period of about 500 years, and that there absolutely nothing points to them being written by David.
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40 authors. 66 books. Written over 1500 hundred years by men of all different personalities, yet they all tell the same story.
 
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Obsessed said:
40 authors. 66 books. Written over 1500 hundred years by men of all different personalities, yet they all tell the same story.
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Wat.

The number of inconsistencies in the story's are staggering.
 
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#731
Roustabout said:
Not sure what your point is here. I assume you are trying to say that Christians live a certain way because they are afraid of the consequences.
Of course, if this is true, then this is just self preservation, and wouldn't the easiest thing be to adopt some form of universalism?
As intelligent, moral beings, we OUGHT to be concerned with getting it right. We also OUGHT to be concerned with getting it wrong. If not, who cares. Drive on the wrong side of the road at 90mph.
Who cares what you think, since after all, it's just your genetic programming?
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1) Obviously
2) You shouldn't ASSume here.
 
#732
#732
Obsessed said:
40 authors. 66 books. Written over 1500 hundred years by men of all different personalities, yet they all tell the same story.
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Can you read? I stated Psalms specifically was written over the previously stated time frame and by several authors, probably none of which were David.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Morals are unique to intelligence life and part of one's conscience. So you are telling me my views on right and wrong are part of my genetics? Is this like alcoholism and suicidal tendancies are genetic too? I am supposed to be predisposed to both but find both to be revolting.
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You are so far behind in this particular discussion that the only thing I can say is that the poster that I quoted and several others get what I was saying, you obviously don't.
 
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#735
Vol8188 said:
Can you read? I stated Psalms specifically was written over the previously stated time frame and by several authors, probably none of which were David.
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Probably?

Come on man. Your entire argument is only probable.

I get it. You don't want to live a disciplined Christian life. You don't want to put forth the energy to live this way.

But why bash Christians?
 
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Obsessed said:
Probably?

Come on man. Your entire argument is only probable.

I get it. You don't want to live a disciplined Christian life. You don't want to put forth the energy to live this way.

But why bash Christians?
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Probably because many Christians try and force their "disciplined life" on others through policy.
 
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Obsessed said:
I've seen there low budget films the call movies.
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Exactly. You can show me the same films and I would be forced to agree that I too, have seen people driving cars around. There is zero subjectivity in that evidence. ZERO.

Furthermore, even if I didn't see it with my own eyes, I know that it is at least possible, if not highly so, because I have seen it here and I know all the same building blocks that would enable people to drive cars here, also exist in France.

Is it possible that God exists? Sure, I NEVER said it wasn't. I'm simply saying the probability of God existing is less than that of life existing elsewhere. Life exists, there is ZERO subjectivity or arguing that. All the same building blocks that we have here exist elsewhere in the universe. That is the discriminator that makes the possibility higher.
 
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Obsessed said:
Probably?

Come on man. Your entire argument is only probable.

I get it. You don't want to live a disciplined Christian life. You don't want to put forth the energy to live this way.

But why bash Christians?
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Get out of here with your holier than thou BS.

It's way easier to just say that "God did it" and never think about it again.
 
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VOLatile said:
Comparing the plant to a single-celled organism is like comparing a lump of play dough to a space shuttle.
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The perverse wonder of evolution is this: the very mechanisms that create the incredible beauty and diversity of the living world guarantee monstrosity and death. The child born without limbs, the sightless fly, the vanished species - these are nothing less than Mother Nature caught in the act of throwing her clay. No perfect God could maintain such incongruities. It is worth remembering that if God created the world and all the things in it, he created smallpox, plague, and filariasis. Any person who intentionally loosed such horrors upon the earth would be ground to dust for his crimes.
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- Sam Harris
 
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VOLatile said:
Comparing the plant to a single-celled organism is like comparing a lump of play dough to a space shuttle.
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Supposedly a single celled organism "evolved" into all the life on earth so just repeating what I said is an epic fail on your part. But hey at least you're attempting to offer something.
 
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#745
rjd970 said:
- Sam Harris
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So because Sam Harris gave one of his convoluted opinions, that represents fact? Wow. Also Harris compares a human to God :eek:lol:. The only better joke you could have posted is a quote by Hitchens or Dawkins.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
The theory of evolution is a simple concept. Its just wholly inaccurate and illogical when you really think about it objectively. But please continue to believe whatever you wish.
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That's why they teach it in every science class. Because it's so damn innaccurate and illogical. That's why no self respecting scientist would disagree with it.

Go sacrifice a goat and spread some blood on your door, man.
 
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rjd970 said:
I understand, the opinion part I was referring to is bolded, that is your belief. It isn't mine. Obviously if one believes in an omnipotent being then it would be rational to believe the morality espoused by such a being would be objective. I agree. We would then be back to debating whether such a being exists, and we have been down that road already. If we aren't operating on the same belief premise to begin with then the debate on the details afterward would be futile before it starts.

...and what do you know, it has been for both of us! :)
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:good!:
 
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