Republicans Belief in Evolution plummets

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#676
Obsessed said:
So aliens that exist millions upon millions of light years away probably exist (statistically) but ones belief in a supreme (God) being is absurd?

Is this logic not hyprocrisy in itself?

I'm not being condescending pkt.

Edit to add: I also believe it's highly probable
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One of those assertions is based on something we know(life exists on one planet in this solar system, therefore there might by life elsewhere in the universe), the other is based on a book with little to no scientific value.
 
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#677
Septic said:
You don't like the mockery of your religion? Have you never laughed a little at the prospect of the Muslims terrorists having 72 virgins waiting on them in heaven? What about Mitt Romney's magic Mormon underwear? How dumb must one be to believe in Thors's hammer or Zues's lightning, Posidens trident? Ever think that the Egyptians were a little silly to worship the Sun gods Horus and Ra? What about the one god that turns sticks into snakes?

How can you dismiss those so readily? Where's your 'rock solid' proof?

No, I'll happily dole out mockery to anyone who tries to assert that any of these is not hogwash. Especially when they use religious dogma as a platform for public policy. F that.

You're demanding rock solid answers but are hypocritically content to assert reasoning that has the consistency of jello.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence son. The difference here is that we're certain science is not always perfect, does not have ALL of the answers - but it's always striving to learn more. Asking tough questions and searching for answers.

Screaming "because god" is beyond intellectually shallow, screaming "you have no evidence" when perched on a branch of "feels" is an invitation for mockery.
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Yeah, all the people getting pissy attitudes about some jokes are huge hypocrites if they ever talked crap about Islam or Mormonism etc.

But you know, those religions don't matter and are worth mocking because they aren't my religion, right?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Not to draw this out, but just for clarification of my views. I do not hold the view that morality is God's "opinion" (as in invented), nor that it transcends Him. To put my beliefs as simply as possible, objective morality issues forth from God's very character, thus He defines morality without it being His opinion.

I know that probably sounds like gobbledygook, but it's a much deeper subject than two paragraphs can do justice.

Best wishes to you. Thank you for your time and discussion.

:hi:
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I understand, the opinion part I was referring to is bolded, that is your belief. It isn't mine. Obviously if one believes in an omnipotent being then it would be rational to believe the morality espoused by such a being would be objective. I agree. We would then be back to debating whether such a being exists, and we have been down that road already. If we aren't operating on the same belief premise to begin with then the debate on the details afterward would be futile before it starts.

...and what do you know, it has been for both of us! :)
 
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MercyPercy said:
One of those assertions is based on something we know(life exists on one planet in this solar system, therefore there might by life elsewhere in the universe), the other is based on a book with little to no scientific value.
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I would say it is an undisputed observable fact life happens, and that is what would put the probability higher. Saying that the book has no scientific value (which I agree with as well, btw) just opens up another 27 pages of debate that will end up nowhere.
 
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MercyPercy said:
One of those assertions is based on something we know(life exists on one planet in this solar system, therefore there might by life elsewhere in the universe), the other is based on a book with little to no scientific value.
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Know?

Haha
 
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rjd970 said:
I would say it is an undisputed observable fact life happens, and that is what would put the probability higher. Saying that the book has no scientific value (which I agree with as well, btw) just opens up another 27 pages of debate that will end up nowhere.
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They like to talk in circles, because if they ever allowed the debate to go anywhere their delusional reality would begin to break down.
 
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rjd970 said:
I would say it is an undisputed observable fact life happens, and that is what would put the probability higher. Saying that the book has no scientific value (which I agree with as well, btw) just opens up another 27 pages of debate that will end up nowhere.
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Life happens. Yes.

But millions of light years away? Proof? Have you seen it? Touched it?
 
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MercyPercy said:
So we don't know life exists on earth. Is that what you are saying? Man I knew some of you were as dumb as a bag of rocks but I never would have guessed you thought you were rocks. :)
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Earth isn't in the equation. We are discussing the final frontier now.

Catch up. :)
 
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To clarify, I said we know life exists here. Not that we know it exists elsewhere. But we can make an educated guess that it does.
 
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MercyPercy said:
To clarify, I said we know life exists here. Not that we know it exists elsewhere. But we can make an educated guess that it does.
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To clarify again, we aren't discussing life on earth. God is not of this world; same as alien life forms are not of this world
 
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Vol8188 said:
My response was not to you, nor was I responding to a post you had been quoted on. I assumed you were to busy talking to your imaginary friends to respond anyway.
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Why yes I was, and they too, think you are off your rocker
 
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Obsessed said:
Yes. I have



You have touched life from space?

Interesting
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No. I'm saying right now, undisputed, objectively, there is no way to argue it, no question of if its possibility, 100% true....I can show you a plant and say here is life.

You can do the same with God?

And yes, I have touched life from space. Here we are. Unless you don't believe we exist in space.
 
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rjd970 said:
No. I'm saying right now, undisputed, objectively, there is no way to argue it, no question of if it is possibility, 100% true....I can show you a plant and say here is life.

You can do the same with God?

And yes, I have touched life from space. Here we are. Unless you don't believe we exist in space.
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Yes I can say the same thing about God.


Your second part simply tells me you don't know. And that's fine.
 
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Obsessed said:
Yes I can say the same thing about God.


Your second part simply tells me you don't know. And that's fine.
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I am only arguing that life exists elsewhere is more probable than God existing. Not that it is impossible that God doesn't exist. Notice, I said this specifically:

rjd970 said:
I would say it is an undisputed observable fact life happens, and that is what would put the probability higher. Saying that the book has no scientific value (which I agree with as well, btw) just opens up another 27 pages of debate that will end up nowhere.
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Also, go ahead and attach a picture of God in your response and setup a meeting for us so I can physically touch him.
 
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rjd970 said:
I am only arguing that life exists elsewhere is more probable than God existing. Not that it is impossible that God doesn't exist. Notice, I said this specifically:



Also, go ahead and attach a picture of God in your response and setup a meeting for us so I can physically touch him.
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1. You can't argue one then deny the other.

2. Your meeting with God is already scheleduled my friend. In due time.
 
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Obsessed said:
Yes I can say the same thing about God.


Your second part simply tells me you don't know. And that's fine.
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This keeps getting better.

Did he touch you? Or did you touch him? Was it his hair? Was it flowing and silky like a Pantene models? How did he smell? I'll bet he smelled of rich mahogany and lavender.

What did you say? Did you speak first or did he? I'd have played it cool, probably held up a fist to bump. You know..
 
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#698
Can some one tell me how David knew of Jesus's crucifixion and described it graphically- 1000 years before it happened or before it was even used as punishment ?
 
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Obsessed said:
1. You can't argue one then deny the other.

2. Your meeting with God is already scheleduled my friend. In due time.
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Where, in the name of all that is holy, did I deny the possibility of God?

This is simple. I'm stating the probability of life being present elsewhere in the universe is greater than the possibility of God. The fact that I can see, hear, taste, touch, and smell life to know that it is possible is my reasoning.
 
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Septic said:
This keeps getting better.

Did he touch you? Or did you touch him? Was it his hair? Was it flowing and silky like a Pantene models? How did he smell? I'll bet he smelled of rich mahogany and lavender.

What did you say? Did you speak first or did he? I'd have played it cool, probably held up a fist to bump. You know..
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Shouldn't you be wiping LG's nose or something?
 
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