'15 JUCO RB Alvin Kamara (UT commit 6/21/14)

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orangeblood79 said:
See: Wright, Jenny. Former Director of Student Judicial Affairs.
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yeah, because ruining her career was just part of the grand scheme to ruin the football program.

In addition, the "nerds" are doing their jobs. They can't sacrifice the university's academic integrity for the football program. I love UT football much as the next guy, but I can't agree with anyone who claims that the university's #1 priority is/should be the football program. Demands of fans who probably never attended the university shouldn't have a paralyzing effect on the university.
 
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Yeah, because admitting around 5 superstars a year who aren't up to UT's academic standards will completely ruin the university's integrity. And Jenny Wright tried to resign and keep it out of the media, but Susan Martin wouldn't let her. Martin would rather embarrass the athletic department.
 
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govols24 said:
Yeah, because admitting around 5 superstars a year who aren't up to UT's academic standards will completely ruin the university's integrity. And Jenny Wright tried to resign and keep it out of the media, but Susan Martin wouldn't let her. Martin would rather embarrass the athletic department.
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the university lowers its acceptance standard as it is for these "students." It's unfair to students who worked to get into the university. Also, are you saying not hiding the Jenny Wright incident was for embarrassing the the AD, not because it was immoral or went against principles of integrity? Some of you guys really need to get checked.
 
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utvol372 said:
Trent Richardson used his time there to wisely prepare himself for hurling his body into tacklers for two yard gains.
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Exactly and Mark Ingram saved his body so he could stay injured his entire career so far, and when he has played didn't look worth a damn. Lacy is the only one that has looked like a real NFL RB.
 
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That kind of thing happens at almost every school and it never gets out because the guilty party resigns like Jenny Wright tried to do. And don't put "students" in quotes like every football player that comes in is stupid. There are several players in the 2014 class with high GPA's and ACT scores. If you honestly think that allowing a couple of at risk football players into UT every year is compromising the university's integrity, then you are the one who needs to get checked.
 
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govols24 said:
That kind of thing happens at almost every school and it never gets out because the guilty party resigns like Jenny Wright tried to do. And don't put "students" in quotes like every football player that comes in is stupid. There are several players in the 2014 class with high GPA's and ACT scores. If you honestly think that allowing a couple of at risk football players into UT every year is compromising the university's integrity, then you are the one who needs to get checked.
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So regarding Jenny Wright, you are using the excuse, "everyone does it, so should we!" Next, you are saying, let's let risky kids get into the university to play football, even though they lack the credentials to get in, justifying yourself by saying "a few drops of poison in the water won't kill anyone" excuse. Clearly, you are correct. I am sorry!

P.S. I don't think you know what compromising means. :no:
 
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I was saying that we should of let her resign instead of turning it into a PR nightmare. You should work on your reading comprehension skills. And letting 5 at risk kids into UT a year does not affect the 20,000+ students who attend UT every year. I attend Maryville College where I have seen several of these at risk kids that you referred to as "poison" earn a degree and find quality employment. Talk to ya later, Susan. :)
 
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kyoon2 said:
So regarding Jenny Wright, you are using the excuse, "everyone does it, so should we!" Next, you are saying, let's let risky kids get into the university to play football, even though they lack the credentials to get in, justifying yourself by saying "a few drops of poison in the water won't kill anyone" excuse. Clearly, you are correct. I am sorry!

P.S. I don't think you know what compromising means. :no:
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Dude, Harvard lets kids with 25s on the ACT in if they play football while denying kids with perfect 36s left and right. It's part of the process. It's all about what an individual can bring to the University. A superstar football player with questionable grades brings more to the University than a regular student with slightly better grades.
 
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tennesseefan31 said:
Dude, Harvard lets kids with 25s on the ACT in if they play football while denying kids with perfect 36s left and right. It's part of the process. It's all about what an individual can bring to the University. A superstar football player with questionable grades brings more to the University than a regular student with slightly better grades.
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harvard does not accept kids with 25s to play football...
 
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kyoon2 said:
the university lowers its acceptance standard as it is for these "students." It's unfair to students who worked to get into the university. Also, are you saying not hiding the Jenny Wright incident was for embarrassing the the AD, not because it was immoral or went against principles of integrity? Some of you guys really need to get checked.
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people also get jobs they aren't qualified for over people who worked their asses off every day. sometimes just because the boss likes them more. Life isn't fair.
 
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govols24 said:
I was saying that we should of let her resign instead of turning it into a PR nightmare. You should work on your reading comprehension skills. And letting 5 at risk kids into UT a year does not affect the 20,000+ students who attend UT every year. I attend Maryville College where I have seen several of these at risk kids that you referred to as "poison" earn a degree and find quality employment. Talk to ya later, Susan. :)
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The provost handled the matter as any provost should, not influenced by the possible PR disaster for the AD. In addition, my reading comprehension is beyond fine. We were talking about academic integrity, not the 20,000 students. Sorry that you can't keep your ideas and thoughts linked. In addition, if an university accepts less-than-qualified students, it lowers the value of the degree.
 
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kyoon2 said:
Then, it's a good thing that a university is an institution for learning, not a showcase for math tests or football for that matter.
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we all know that...we just think you're being a nimrod, man. you are coming off very emotional about this and it's comical.
 
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kyoon2 said:
harvard does not accept kids with 25s to play football...
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All universities let kids in with low scores. It's called affirmative action in case you have your head in the sand---which it appears that you do. Playing a sport could be a good way to have them give back or earn their way to an education.

UT is in competition with other institutions who don't shoot themselves in the foot by back biting their ADs. What Susan Martin did with the Trey Golden case was totally unnecessary and either shows malice toward the AD or gross incompetence. If you believe that Alabama, Auburn, Florida and other competitors permit this, you are delusional.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
All universities let kids in with low scores. It's called affirmative action in case you have your head in the sand---which it appears that you do. Playing a sport could be a good way to have them give back or earn their way to an education.

UT is in competition with other institutions who don't shoot themselves in the foot by back biting their ADs. What Susan Martin did with the Trey Golden case was totally unnecessary and either shows malice toward the AD or gross incompetence. If you believe that Alabama, Auburn, Florida and other competitors permit this, you are delusional.
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...because affirmative action applies to athletes directly?

I don't think I am delusional because I don't think we should be involved in immoral conducts feeling it's okay because other schools "permit" this.

P.S.
you might want to look up some of the words you used and
relearn some definitions btw.
 
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if only the regular students at Tennessee had the potential to generate the revenue for the university that athletics does... but they don't. That's one, unfair, reason athletes get in to school easier. A great athletic program pays for a lot of nice academic buildings and what not. Look at how the donations at Alabama have skyrocketed since they hired Saban and started winning again.
 
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SD189 said:
if only the regular students at Tennessee had the potential to generate the revenue for the university that athletics does... but they don't. That's one, unfair, reason athletes get in to school easier. A great athletic program pays for a lot of nice academic buildings and what not. Look at how the donations at Alabama have skyrocketed since they hired Saban and started winning again.
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and how is this not compromising academic integrity?
 
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kyoon2 said:
Then, it's a good thing that a university is an institution for learning, not a showcase for math tests or football for that matter.
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Right, because the university runs on something other than money, the majority of which is brought in by the athletic program. If education is your thing, you should look at taking a couple of business courses and learn what the main component is that is involved in running an institution for higher learning. Money. Not to mention the tie in with the local businesses in the area that generate more foot traffic, more revenue themselves, which allow more jobs. See, it's not just one issue. And people in high places creating dramatic environments generally don't do so to prove some obscure point. They generally do it to cover their own insecurities and put themselves over.
 
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