Recruiting Forum: Football Talk VIII

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vol2013 said:
Even they fall short of the cardinals.
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92.9 the game in atl was talking about how sanctimonious and entitled they were today. A lot of Americans feel that way about cards fans. Not important enough for me to notice. Must be a Midwest thing
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I think this is true. I think Petersen is an example of a guy who can do more with less. I think Richt is an example of a guy who does less with more. Saban I think just plays it straight up, nothing revolutionary, because he knows he has the better athletes. I don't think he's a bad coach. His teams tend to be disciplined and make few mistakes but his edge is in his personnel. I'm beginning to think Butch may be a better coach than Saban. We'll see how it turns out over the next few years once we get a competitive roster. He sure made Spurrier look confused.
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Saban is good. It's hard to go 8-4 and 9-3 at mich state. He also was owned by Pittsburg when coordinating for bellichek. He's the perfect example of the jimmy and joes vs the X's and O's argument. He had no idea how to motivate that Miami team.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Another question:

Why do you think Saban wasn't successful in the NFL?

He is arguably one of the best ever on the collegiate level.

And there have been plenty of coaches successfully make the jump.

So why not him?
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Agree with other thoughts in his interactions towards NFL players, but the answer to this question is really simple as this:

Saban wanted Drew Brees, team docs wouldn't approve, team picks up Dante Culpepper. NFL is QB driven league and the rest is history. Saban gets Brees and he may still be in Miami, at least that's how my dream ends.
 
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UTMVol76 said:
Agree with other thoughts in his interactions towards NFL players, but the answer to this question is really simple as this:

Saban wanted Drew Brees, team docs wouldn't approve, team picks up Dante Culpepper. NFL is QB driven league and the rest is history. Saban gets Brees and he may still be in Miami, at least that's how my dream ends.
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Saban didn't leave Miami because of the team or record. He left for money and the ease of controlling kids compared to accomplished nfl players. He's a liar and a douche. :hi:
 
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UTMVol76 said:
Agree with other thoughts in his interactions towards NFL players, but the answer to this question is really simple as this:

Saban wanted Drew Brees, team docs wouldn't approve, team picks up Dante Culpepper. NFL is QB driven league and the rest is history. Saban gets Brees and he may still be in Miami, at least that's how my dream ends.
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You sure it wasn't sabans final decision?
“We had an opportunity to get a quarterback in Drew Brees or Daunte Culpepper and we probably missed out on the physical well-being of those two players; we took the guy that we felt was more healthy, and he wasn’t healthy,” Saban said. “No disrespect to him; he did the best he could, Daunte Culpepper. Drew Brees didn’t have any problems and ended up having a great career. Had that been different, I think we’d have made our team a lot better.
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StoVol said:
Saban is good. It's hard to go 8-4 and 9-3 at mich state. He also was owned by Pittsburg when coordinating for bellichek. He's the perfect example of the jimmy and joes vs the X's and O's argument. He had no idea how to motivate that Miami team.
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Agreed. He couldn't use his only method of motivation, which is fear, on guys who were veterans in the league.
 
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Isn't it refreshing to hear sport center start a how with "are both undefeateds in the SEC in jeopardy?" Especially when the team that'll get them in that scenario is Tennessee...
 
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utvols88 said:
Agreed. He couldn't use his only method of motivation, which is fear, on guys who were veterans in the league.
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At the same time, show me someone who saw that brees was gonna be that good given his size, and that culpepper was gonna be that bad. In college you can have 4 or 5 stud qb's on your team. In the nfl you get enough cap room to pay for 1. I don't fault saban for not seeing the future on Bree's. He's still an automaton tho. Would suck to play for him unless you feel like a champion outtalenting every team in America save for 4 or 5 teams.
 
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I could be crazy but I do see CBJ winning here at a level unheard of in the modern era for ut. He has a system that works, he is a motivator, he is a helluva coach, and most importantly what many thought he might struggle at and that is he is an elite recruiter.

Buckle up boys. Tn football is about to get really fun.
 
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StoVol said:
At the same time, show me someone who saw that brees was gonna be that good given his size, and that culpepper was gonna be that bad. In college you can have 4 or 5 stud qb's on your team. In the nfl you get enough cap room to pay for 1. I don't fault saban for not seeing the future on Bree's. He's still an automaton tho. Would suck to play for him unless you feel like a champion outtalenting every team in America save for 4 or 5 teams.
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Drew had produced out in San Diego. Sure, Dante had too, but it's not like drew was coming in like matt Cassel or matt Flynn
 
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SCvol333 said:
I could be crazy but I do see CBJ winning here at a level unheard of in the modern era for ut. He has a system that works, he is a motivator, he is a helluva coach, and most importantly what many thought he might struggle at and that is he is an elite recruiter.

Buckle up boys. Tn football is about to get really fun.
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OK, based on your word, I'm in
 
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