Twittercruitin' - Social Media in the Recruiting process

#251
#251
If Dillon Bates decided to come on volnation.com and start a thread saying "Volnation, I'm deciding between you and Florida. What should I do?"

You ALL would be encouraging him to pick UT. Don't get all high and mighty just because you don't understand twitter!!!
 
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CKWHITE said:
If Dillon Bates decided to come on volnation.com and start a thread saying "Volnation, I'm deciding between you and Florida. What should I do?"

You ALL would be licking the sweat off his balls! Don't get all high and mighty just because you don't understand twitter!!!
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No. I wouldn't.
 
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#253
I've read half this thread and want to address bcarter on something. Brian, I don't know you nor your motives. I don't think you're a creep or a bad person. I'm only giving my opinion because you asked in the original post.

I don't believe you (or anyone else) "twittercruiting" is doing anything inherently wrong. I don't believe you're hurting the program. My stance is that just because it isn't wrong doesn't mean you should do it. You are looking at this in a fandom vacuum. "It's helping us show love to recruits!" This is a true statement, but it's complete fandom. For me, AS A MAN, I think it's incredibly creepy for me to tweet incessantly to 16-18 year old boys just because they're good at football. That doesn't make me less of a fan than you. It's a priority thing. You have a wife and child, which I know are a bigger priority. I would never assert otherwise. However, if I was "twittercruiting," I'd be embarrassed to tell my girlfriend. Why? Because in the real world, it's creepy as piss. And guess what? What you're doing is the real world, too. I feel like the culture of sports is the problem, which is an entirely different discussion. But to make it quick: people think because it's sports, that the rules are different. They aren't. A 40-year-old man tweeting as much as you do to teenagers, regardless of intent or content, is flat out, unarguably creepy.
 
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CKWHITE said:
If Dillon Bates decided to come on volnation.com and start a thread saying "Volnation, I'm deciding between you and Florida. What should I do?"

You ALL would be licking the sweat off his balls! Don't get all high and mighty just because you don't understand twitter!!!
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What the hell is wrong with you?
 
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CKWHITE said:
If Dillon Bates decided to come on volnation.com and start a thread saying "Volnation, I'm deciding between you and Florida. What should I do?"

You ALL would be licking the sweat off his balls! Don't get all high and mighty just because you don't understand twitter!!!
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I wouldn't. I'm 30 and am a Director of Marketing. I could run a seminar on social media marketing and the strengths and weaknesses of it as a marketing tool. I understand it.
 
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VolinArizona said:
I've read half this thread and want to address bcarter on something. Brian, I don't know you nor your motives. I don't think you're a creep or a bad person. I'm only giving my opinion because you asked in the original post.

I don't believe you (or anyone else) "twittercruiting" is doing anything inherently wrong. I don't believe you're hurting the program. My stance is that just because it isn't wrong doesn't mean you should do it. You are looking at this in a fandom vacuum. "It's helping us show love to recruits!" This is a true statement, but it's complete fandom. For me, AS A MAN, I think it's incredibly creepy for me to tweet incessantly to 16-18 year old boys just because they're good at football. That doesn't make me less of a fan than you. It's a priority thing. You have a wife and child, which I know are a bigger priority. I would never assert otherwise. However, if I was "twittercruiting," I'd be embarrassed to tell my girlfriend. Why? Because in the real world, it's creepy as piss. And guess what? What you're doing is the real world, too. I feel like the culture of sports is the problem, which is an entirely different discussion. But to make it quick: people think because it's sports, that the rules are different. They aren't. A 40-year-old man tweeting as much as you do to teenagers, regardless of intent or content, is flat out, unarguably creepy.
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Good post AZ
 
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#257
Funny thing is if a lot of the same ones who feel it is not being a creeper trying to chat up teen boys, Chris Hanson may be making a show about you shortly.

:eek:lol:

JK!(not really).
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
What the hell is wrong with you?
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Ok, maybe you don't understand my point. Everybody would be in a frenzy telling him how great a place UT would be to play. And everyone would be trying their damndest to get him to commit to UT.

How is that any different?
 
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#260
Twitter is entertainment: a good way to exercise creativity, keep up with bands and actors/writers/directors and a good non-drama alternative to Facebook which I have chosen to never touch. I personally would never tweet a recruit. It feels weird and if it feels weird, it probably is. Oh and Im a man, almost 40.
 
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VolinArizona said:
I've read half this thread and want to address bcarter on something. Brian, I don't know you nor your motives. I don't think you're a creep or a bad person. I'm only giving my opinion because you asked in the original post.

I don't believe you (or anyone else) "twittercruiting" is doing anything inherently wrong. I don't believe you're hurting the program. My stance is that just because it isn't wrong doesn't mean you should do it. You are looking at this in a fandom vacuum. "It's helping us show love to recruits!" This is a true statement, but it's complete fandom. For me, AS A MAN, I think it's incredibly creepy for me to tweet incessantly to 16-18 year old boys just because they're good at football. That doesn't make me less of a fan than you. It's a priority thing. You have a wife and child, which I know are a bigger priority. I would never assert otherwise. However, if I was "twittercruiting," I'd be embarrassed to tell my girlfriend. Why? Because in the real world, it's creepy as piss. And guess what? What you're doing is the real world, too. I feel like the culture of sports is the problem, which is an entirely different discussion. But to make it quick: people think because it's sports, that the rules are different. They aren't. A 40-year-old man tweeting as much as you do to teenagers, regardless of intent or content, is flat out, unarguably creepy.
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I can certainly understand your point. I just vehemently disagree that, because of age, it is creepy to use the tools at a fans disposal to encourage a potential student athlete to attend UT. It would be creepy to "chat" with them about day to day events, or life, like friends, but to help promote the University I disagree strongly. I do talk with several of their parents on a more personal level fairly regularly on Twitter and none of them think its creepy. Most of them appreciate the support their kids are getting. I just think a blanket statement that it is creepy is just being a little too judgmental, it could be creepy but that is on a case by case basis.

Thanks for being mature enough to agree to disagree without being disagreeable! Emotionally charged issues like this, which flat out surprised me that it was, separate the mature from the immature. I appreciate your tact.
 
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CKWHITE said:
Ok, maybe you don't understand my point. Everybody would be in a frenzy telling him how great a place UT would be to play. And everyone would be trying their damndest to get him to commit to UT.

How is that any different?
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You say that to make your point about how its not weird or creepy?
 
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VolinArizona said:
I've read half this thread and want to address bcarter on something. Brian, I don't know you nor your motives. I don't think you're a creep or a bad person. I'm only giving my opinion because you asked in the original post.

I don't believe you (or anyone else) "twittercruiting" is doing anything inherently wrong. I don't believe you're hurting the program. My stance is that just because it isn't wrong doesn't mean you should do it. You are looking at this in a fandom vacuum. "It's helping us show love to recruits!" This is a true statement, but it's complete fandom. For me, AS A MAN, I think it's incredibly creepy for me to tweet incessantly to 16-18 year old boys just because they're good at football. That doesn't make me less of a fan than you. It's a priority thing. You have a wife and child, which I know are a bigger priority. I would never assert otherwise. However, if I was "twittercruiting," I'd be embarrassed to tell my girlfriend. Why? Because in the real world, it's creepy as piss. And guess what? What you're doing is the real world, too. I feel like the culture of sports is the problem, which is an entirely different discussion. But to make it quick: people think because it's sports, that the rules are different. They aren't. A 40-year-old man tweeting as much as you do to teenagers, regardless of intent or content, is flat out, unarguably creepy.
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So having VFL's like Ainge, Swain, Leonard Little, etc. encouraging the fan base to contact and show love to recruits is creepy? These guys have lived the process and know what it is... I'm sure they would be perfectly fine if it was their 16-18 year old son. Would they encourage it otherwise??

In my opinion some of you simply don't understand it, so you label it as "creepy" to deter other people from doing it. To get people on your side. Now, I would say that it helps and judging by the reactions that the recruits are expressing, all of volnation should be doing it!!

"I will give my all for Tennessee today!" Even if some posters on volnation think it's creepy.
 
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bcartervol98 said:
I can certainly understand your point. I just vehemently disagree that, because of age, it is creepy to use the tools at a fans disposal to encourage a potential student athlete to attend UT. It would be creepy to "chat" with them about day to day events, or life, like friends, but to help promote the University I disagree strongly. I do talk with several of their parents on a more personal level fairly regularly on Twitter and none of them think its creepy. Most of them appreciate the support their kids are getting. I just think a blanket statement that it is creepy is just being a little too judgmental, it could be creepy but that is on a case by case basis.

Thanks for being mature enough to agree to disagree without being disagreeable! Emotionally charged issues like this, which flat out surprised me that it was, separate the mature from the immature. I appreciate your tact.
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Thanks, man. I appreciate your maturity on the discussion.

In the interest of continued discussion, I will say I think it's creepy for a man of any age to tweet these teenagers as much as the twittercruiters do.

Secondly, would you follow and tweet potential high schoolers who were deciding between UT's awesome Logistics program and let's say, Florida's?
 
#265
#265
does anyone have the names of cheerleaders being recruited by UT? Instagram account names would be preferred

when you get past the narrow scope of football recruits it doesn't sound quite as innocent
 
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VolinArizona said:
Thanks, man. I appreciate your maturity on the discussion.

In the interest of continued discussion, I will say I think it's creepy for a man of any age to tweet these teenagers as much as the twittercruiters do.

Secondly, would you follow and tweet potential high schoolers who were deciding between UT's awesome Logistics program and let's say, Florida's?
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No I could care less about the logistics program. I didn't start doing this because it was something I wanted to do or a way to spend my nights. I have to be careful but there are people that want this done and are encouraging it that are very knowledgeable about the process. I didn't create the idea is what I am saying.

I hadn't been on VN in a long time and I got a text saying my name was coming up a lot, and this is the first place i had heard the term creepy associated with this effort. I guess that's why I was floored and wanted to delve into it further because everyone I know associated with the UT Football program both former and current are huge supporters of what we do so long as it is done in a classy and compliant manner.
 
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CKWHITE said:
So having VFL's like Ainge, Swain, Leonard Little, etc. encouraging the fan base to contact and show love to recruits is creepy? These guys have lived the process and know what it is... I'm sure they would be perfectly fine if it was their 16-18 year old son. Would they encourage it otherwise??

In my opinion some of you simply don't understand it, so you label it as "creepy" to deter other people from doing it. To get people on your side. Now, I would say that it helps and judging by the reactions that the recruits are expressing, all of volnation should be doing it!!

"I will give my all for Tennessee today!" Even if some posters on volnation think it's creepy.
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1. Yes, I think it is creepy. But "showing love to recruits" doesn't necessarily mean "tweet them directly."

2. As I said before, I 100% completely understand Twitter. I am a Director of Marketing - it is my daily duty to understand and utilize these resources. I get paid for it. I also understand Instagram, Vine, Facebook, Pinterest, Path, LinkedIn, Foursquare, etc etc etc.

3. I say it's creepy because I believe it's creepy. Not to get people on my side. It's my opinion. I'm not telling bcarter to stop. In fact, in another thread, I said he was free to live his life as he pleases.

Brian and I have both discussed this maturely and have told each other so. Posts like yours are why discussions turn into arguments.

Last point, if we were to get down to the real definition of what twittercruiters are doing, the following conversation would happen:

Wife: What'd you do during lunch, sweetie?

Husband/Twittercruiter: I tweeted to 20 high schoolers about playing football at Tennessee.


You can digest that however you'd like. I won't give my biased response.
 
#268
#268
I wouldnt do this for baseball, basketball, cheerleading, or any other sport-activity. The football program has been in the dumps and if twitter can help recruit top players, remove the massive amount of fan apathy that has been prevalent over the last few years, and bring the excitement back to all things UT Football then I will continue to see it as a great thing, other opinions notwithstanding.
 
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This is turning into a futile thread IMO. People live their lives according to their own ideals, no point in trying to convince each other of the rightness or wrongness of each other. If you want to twittercruit, then twittercruit. If you think its creepy, then think its creepy.
 
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dschult2 said:
This is turning into a futile thread IMO. People live their lives according to their own ideals, no point in trying to convince each other of the rightness or wrongness of each other. If you want to twittercruit, then twittercruit. If you think its creepy, then think its creepy.
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Pretty much sums it up lol
 
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dschult2 said:
This is turning into a futile thread IMO. People live their lives according to their own ideals, no point in trying to convince each other of the rightness or wrongness of each other. If you want to twittercruit, then twittercruit. If you think its creepy, then think its creepy.
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Spot on.

(side note: I sometimes enjoy a good debate though)
 
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VolinArizona said:
Spot on.

(side note: I sometimes enjoy a good debate though)
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I just had to start it to try and wrap my mind around the blanket statements that any contact whatsoever with a recruit on Twitter is creepy. I understand that now, I disagree with the blanket statement, but I understand it.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Spot on.

(side note: I sometimes enjoy a good debate though)
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As do I for sure. This just feels like the abortion debate where people have unmovable positions. I'd rather debate about whether player X's film looks better than player Y's film, so we should recruit X first. That type of stuff.
 
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From a different angle:


Think back to when you were 15-18 would you want some middle aged man in dad jeans slobbering over you? Personally, when I was that age or any age I wouldn't be bout that life under any circumstance.
 
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