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Tux said:
He is too slow to play CB at the next level, even in a zone scheme.
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don't know what his pro day numbers were but if he didn't run a 4.8 or slower some will take a look, even if it's just getting him to camp as a UDFA. Hell Moses Jenkins had to be the slowest and worst CB ever to start a game at UF and he last 3 weeks in Ravens camp.
 
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I can't do a thing but laugh at this CB discussion. As athletes we were behind Vandy and every other school at CB. Just as raw athletes. Art Evans had his chances to develop. When was he supposed to take a step forward? Wade took an immediate step after a year of growing pains. Evans regressed bad after starting. And seemed satisfied with just starting. Waggner was a Tampa 2 CB with good ball skills but we don't run that so he was a bad CB in my books. He had trouble disengaging from blocks and couldn't outrun any mistakes. I will say he stepped his game up but he should've never been lining up for UT with the type of athletes we were pulling back then. I wish him luck as a pro. :hi:
 
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Vols4us said:
I feel sorry for the guys that played at UT over the past 5 seasons. They did not get coached to UT standards. Some of the best ones overcame it. The rest got an education in and out of the classroom.
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Lord knows that's the truth.

Remember, Chuck Smith was the Crazy one who couldnt coach tho :eek:lol:
 
#11,712
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I4Jay said:
Lord knows that's the truth.

Remember, Chuck Smith was the Crazy one who couldnt coach tho :eek:lol:
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So true. Saw Sean Ellis with Chuck in August just before the season when he was coaching at UT. Great friends getting together after Chuck had just been consulting with the Jets. A guy that played 8 seasons in the league, developed college and pro D-line talent in his own business - and he isn't good enough or know enough to coach up a D-line for Wilcox and Dools? Are you kidding me? And the D-line has underperformed ever since he left.
 
#11,713
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If PW ran a 4.7 he won't play CB on the next level. At best he may get a look for zone pkgs and/or on ST.

4.5-4.55 is good, sub 4.5 is preferable. 4.6-4.65 (w/ very few exceptions) is better suited for zone pkg's and ST.

Two that are exception:
Jonathan Banks - 4.61
Janzen Jackson - 4.6
 
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Vols4us said:
So true. Saw Sean Ellis with Chuck in August just before the season when he was coaching at UT. Great friends getting together after Chuck had just been consulting with the Jets. A guy that played 8 seasons in the league, developed college and pro D-line talent in his own business - and he isn't good enough or know enough to coach up a D-line for Wilcox and Dools? Are you kidding me? And the D-line has underperformed ever since he left.
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:yes:

:salute:

:peace2:
 
#11,716
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vol2013 said:
I agree that it works both ways, but not evenly. It takes a special secondary to consistently force coverage sacks, but only an above average pass rush to make an below average secondary look god.
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There's not a secondary that exists that can "consistently force coverage sacks".

Think you misread my post.
 
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SIAP, Hubbs doesn't feel good at all about Gordon returning. He says Gordon is definitely out for the rest of spring, but its too early to determine if he will make it in to Fall Camp.

Also, a poster asked Hubbs what the deal was with Christian Harris. Hubbs said he is still learning a new system and Harris has a lot of developing to do.
 
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I'm glad Fugate is stepping up and playing well. And surprisingly, all reports I have heard on Brewer have been very positive also.
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
Also, a poster asked Hubbs what the deal was with Christian Harris. Hubbs said he is still learning a new system and Harris has a lot of developing to do.
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:yuck: :sick: :jpshakehead:
learning a system has nothing to do with not being able to lay a finger on TEs in 5 yard, one on one tackling drills.

I read some tweets of Fugate being physical in tackling drills, and the first vid I see of him on VQ was Brendon Downs Mauling and completely trucking him...

I never can and never will take these "spring heroic reports" seriously
 
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I4Jay said:
:yuck: :sick: :jpshakehead:
learning a system has nothing to do with not being able to lay a finger on TEs in 5 yard, one on one tackling drills.

I read some tweets of Fugate being physical in tackling drills, and the first vid I see of him on VQ was Brendon Downs Mauling and completely trucking him...

I never can and never will take these "spring heroic reports" seriously
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I understand not trusting the reports 100%,but I don't think you can create your own opinion based off of one play either. Simply being skeptical is fine. I am choosing to believe all the hype though. Just makes life more fun.
 
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of course Im not judging off one play, but I sure as hell am not crowning people as dominating physically when I just saw him get dominated, physically...
I am choosing to believe all the hype though. Just makes life more fun
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More power to you :hi:
 
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