Recruiting Forum: Football Talk II

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I said that he was up for discussion. Not being interviewed. But he's turning down jobs too. Ones that are much better than what Strong was offered while he was the DC for Florida.

Up for discussion? On message boards maybe. I see no difference in Strong and Smart other than Strong is more of a self made man and Smart is a product of Saban
 
Who cares.

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I for one would hate a Butch Jones hire. Leave him at Cincy.

Al Golden has a Miami team that plays just like Dooley's team last year. Want no parts of that.

I want Strong and hope that deal is done personally.

BOOM BOOM! I agree, BB, that is as long as Gruden is definitely off the table. Strong will kill it beginning with this class in recruiting. Get an elite OC and we would be set.
 
That interviewing a guy making 3.75 million dollars a year to coach at his alma mater is a waste of time.

Which means IMHO that Hart already has his guy and is simply going through the motions, waiting for the time that he and the new coach have chosen to announce.
 
I'm just not a big fan if Gundy at all. I want Strong, but if it comes down to Fisher or Gundy then I'll take Fisher all day. At least he's been around the South & has ties in the SEC.


Sidenote: I know I had been talking up Pelini lately & his team played a TERRIBLE game last night but I was very impressed by Wisconsins OC, his schemes for running the ball looked GREAT.
 
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Up for discussion? On message boards maybe. I see no difference in Strong and Smart other than Strong is more of a self made man and Smart is a product of Saban

Kirby Smart's name is always thrown around by the media and such. Strong is self-made while Smart is under Saban. Who's making the calls down there(the unknown factor)? Which makes Strong a much better hire if I were to offer either in regards to a position at tthe same stage. Strong wasn't getting the same type of treatment that Smart and others are given. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't talk about it but it's the truth that he was more qualified.
 
Skeeter went silent after Friday night. At that point, he seemed to be high on Strong. Seemed like there was a lot of movement there. Honestly, though, if Fisher wants out of Tallahassee, then I think we get Fisher. Just a matter of what Fisher wants to do.
 
On another note, I know his team fell off towards the end of the season, but I'm a little surprised we haven't heard Mullen's name any. He must really like Starkville.
 
The fact that they're even wasting their time on Gundy should tell you everything you need to know about Hart.

You have to do that interview even if you think it's a stretch. It would tell me more about Hart if he chose not to interview established coaches because there is a good chance they won't come. The chance of landing an established coach is already very low. Hart can't afford to deny interviews just because he perceives them as long shots.
 
Skip Holtz out at USF.

Also Virginia announces four coaches have been "relieved of their duties": Jim Reid (DC), Jeff Hanson (DL), Mike Faragalli (RB), Shawn Moore (TE)
 
Vols assistants continued to recruit. Brandon Staley is doing major work in Florida, and Jay Graham watched the Tennessee high school state championships all day Friday and Saturday in Cookeville.
-Hubbs
 
Kirby Smart's name is always thrown around by the media and such. Strong is self-made while Smart is under Saban. Who's making the calls down there(the unknown factor)? Which makes Strong a much better hire if I were to offer either in regards to a position at tthe same stage. Strong wasn't getting the same type of treatment that Smart and others are given. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't talk about it but it's the truth that he was more qualified.
Perception maybe a little skewed, Smart is being thrown around but not gaining traction. Matter of fact, every team he is associated with (job wise) the fans dont want him. It has nothing to do with color.
 
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Don't be surprised if former UNC head coach Butch Davis ends up landing the head coaching job at Tennessee
 
To quote Keith Jackson, "Whoa, Nellie!" You are badly distorting Dickey's record. First of all, he was 3-2-1 in head-to-head competiton wih Bear Bryant, winning the last three games of his tenure against Alabama. How many coaches can make that claim? As for bowl games, few coaches have consistently mastered the art of bowl preparation year in and year out. Even Neyland didn't have a stellar bowl record, going 2-5 in that category, with wins over Oklahoma (17-0) in the 1939 Orange Bowl and Texas (20-14) in the '51 Cotton Bowl. Do you want to challenge the venerable Neyland's coaching acumen as well?

Dickey beat Tulsa 27-6 in the '65 Bluebonnet Bowl and Syracuse 18-12 in the '66 Gator Bowl before losing to Oklahoma (26-24) on a 43-yd. field goal attempt by Karl Kremser that was wide right by about two feet. Flowers later said of the 36-13 loss to Texas that, "If we had played them ten times, Texas would have won all ten. They were that good." We were also facing the newly installed wishbone offense, which Darrell Royal debuted that season. As for the '69 Gator Bowl, news had already leaked that Dickey was going back to Florida and we simply did not play inspired football. Personally, I believe that, if he had not made the mistake of his life by going back home to his alma mater, Dickey could have retired from Tennessee with 200 victories or so, and 4-6 SEC titles. Bear Bryant's reign of terror over the SEC in the 1970s certainly would not have been as severe.

I either attended all of those games or watched them on TV. I noticed you didn't mention the 1966 game in the rain vs. a top-ranked Bama in Neyland. UT was up 10-0 at halftime, then Dickey went conservative in the second half & Bama went ahead 11-10. Fulton threw a pass that Baker ran all the way to about the 3-yd. line. We all thought we had won the game. Then we missed a FG try from the right hash mark as time expired. I'll never forget that game, totally miserable losing to Bama and drenched to skin at the same time. :cray:

I hear what you're saying, but at the time we students felt that UT should have won a NC with the talent we had. Syracuse blew their game against us by trying to throw the ball at the end of the first half, even though we couldn't stop the run. I was really pissed off when we lost to Oklahoma. We didn't show uo in the first half and we looked hung over. We definitely should have won that game. The loss to Texas was even worse, because I moved to Houston right after that and never lived it down.

We can agree to disagree about Dickey. :hi:
 
Made the mistake of wandering into the Gruden thread for the first time since it became apparent it was time to move on. Their current rumor is that Fulmer will be brought in for a year as an interm head coach and transition into the AD role next year :eek:lol:
 
Made the mistake of wandering into the Gruden thread for the first time since it became apparent it was time to move on. Their current rumor is that Fulmer will be brought in for a year as an interm head coach and transition into the AD role next year :eek:lol:

Yes, everyone who posts in that thread believes such a thing. sigh
 
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