Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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The rest of the stuff you said is debatable. This is just plain wrong. There's no way Strong would get us in the top 10. Do me a favor and look up his recruiting classes for his ENTIRE career. Not even close to the top 25, how's he gonna suddenly beat out the likes of Stoops, Jimbo, and Mac Brown? No way


Wait..Skeeter is saying Strong would have a top 5-10 class "THIS" year or "Could" attain that in the future?
 
Point being...Agents speak for their client. They are represented as a party, so to speak

Yes, but agents aren't puppets. You ask most and they will tell you they work in the best interests of their clients. They do their thing to get everything they can for you.

However, in the end they have a mind of their own and aren't puppets with the people they represent's hands up their butt moving their mouths.

He may have been told to say this, but the "fantasy land" part could be from his own head.
 
For Gruden to love and respect our University SOOOOO MUCH his agents choice of words and the way he hasnt gave a statement as to why he said know is mind boggling. That's why i think its a smoke screen.
Just curious...
Has there ever been a situation before where an agent basically ridiculed the possible destination of their client?

If so, did the client/coach then take the job?
 
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The sad thing is , I actually believe Hart was going to keep Dooley for another year , if he made it to a bowl. I think firing him was the last thing he wanted to do.
 
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The "Blood Bath" occurred on Wednesday between AD and BTB (Big Time Boosters). I'm not sure that they can be repaired. It will be interesting so see how much financial support will be offered to the next candidate.

Do you think that had a lot to do with Gruden turning the Vols down?
 
I found our new official BOOM picture:

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And so it is written, so it shall be done!
 
I've felt this way almost since I first heard of it. I felt like it gave Hart the autonomy he wanted. But I hate to think we limited ourselves to 6mil for the HC and assistants. That almost automatically puts you looking at second tier candidates imo.
It would be exactly the right amount for a staff comprised of a rising coordinator.
 
I'm about 30% on this, it's plausible, all this conflicting reports, seems like everyone is adjusting stories, including the ESPN release about confirmed talks, that doesn't line up with LaMonte, etc... I doubt it at this point, but this isn't the first crazy hire that has been denied because of too much media. So, until I see a coach hired I'm:
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That is what I have been saying. We are screwed. WHOEVER is responsible for this cluster**** has turned us into Chernobyl. No matter how good of a coach they are able to get now, he will be swimming upstream. :banghead2:

thats what ive said, the next coach if not gruden will have to fill the shoes of gruden even tho he has never coach UT
 
Wait..Skeeter is saying Strong would have a top 5-10 class "THIS" year or "Could" attain that in the future?

Mayne..Imagine the retribution for strong when (if) he fails. First black tennessee coach. They gonna wanna hang em just sayin
 
Yes, but agents aren't puppets. You ask most and they will tell you they work in the best interests of their clients. They do their thing to get everything they can for you.

However, in the end they have a mind of their own and aren't puppets with the people they represent's hands up their butt moving their mouths.

He may have been told to say this, but the "fantasy land" part could be from his own head.

My point exactly...IF I am Gruden, and I have ties here at UT, no way I let that comment rest.

No Way.
 
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Haiti bound in 7 hours Grudenites! I'm going to be out of the loop for 7 days.

I missed most of the episode today but caught the cliff notes version tonight and some play-by-play from Patrick. Thanks man!

I'll have very little communications with maybe one day of internet access. However, when I do check back in I expect you guys and gals (that's you PC and Smokey) to have King Gruden in the bag. :)

Hang in there Grudenites. Thanks again Patrick!

I'm all-in 'til we're all out. Gruden 2012!

I will be around SLO. Have a great trip brother!!! Looking foreward to seeing your photos!!!
 
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I think Liper is onto the scent. All of this came apart last night right about the time the TFP breaking the news happened. Almost seems like the hand was forced and it got out of control. Then it had to be put down until the right time. I just can not reconcile why it had to be brought back under control so aggressively. That is the piece I am missing.

It's fishy for sure. From where I sit, it didn't sound at all like golly gee wiz it just didn't work out. It was more like someone came out of a room and starting venting. I get the sense I heard this stuff pretty quick after the fact (if that gives you an idea of where I was getting it.)
 
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