The real reason so many wanted Gruden so badly...

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I think the real reason so many wanted Gruden so badly was because getting him was a competition, a race, a game to be won. Everyone wanted him and since our program could not win on the field, many felt that winning the Gruden battle would show that Tennessee is still a winner, still an elite program. To lose him would only verify that mighty UT is that much closer to falling from the ranks of the elite. They put all their eggs in one basket, now where are they?
 
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carolinaviking said:
I think the real reason so many wanted Gruden so badly was because getting him was a competition, a race, a game to be won. Everyone wanted him and since our program could not win on the field, many felt that winning the Gruden battle would show that Tennessee is still a winner, still an elite program. To lose him would only verify that mighty UT is that much closer to falling from the ranks of the elite. They put all their eggs in one basket, now where are they?
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Ok. I can relate to that.
 
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carolinaviking said:
I think the real reason so many wanted Gruden so badly was because getting him was a competition, a race, a game to be won. Everyone wanted him and since our program could not win on the field, many felt that winning the Gruden battle would show that Tennessee is still a winner, still an elite program. To lose him would only verify that mighty UT is that much closer to falling from the ranks of the elite. They put all their eggs in one basket, now where are they?
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Possibly a lot of truth to that statement
 
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I wanted him because he would be able to recruit like a boss. He would put together an impressive staff. He has a winning record in the NFL and has a superbowl ring.
 
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The fan base has been downtrodden for many years. An eleven year decline has left many of us with very little to be hopeful for in regards to the football team. The people who have become obsessed with the possibility of hiring Jon Gruden are looking for hope. Nothing more nothing less.
 
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I still think Hart is recruting a coach that is coaching this weekend. It seems that hart never met with Gruden and probably never really saw it as a possibility. I am speculating that Hart has been after two people for this position and not Gruden.

So the fans may have put their eggs in one basket, not sure if anyone actually doing the search has.
 
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UTHorsey said:
I wanted him because he would be able to recruit like a boss. He would put together an impressive staff. He has a winning record in the NFL and has a superbowl ring.
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Yeah, I definitely get that. I never thought he would come to Tennessee and I highly doubt he will choose any college team. But if he did come, I would be thrilled about those qualities. However, I would not buy into the idea that his success was ever assured based on his past record. He'd been out of coaching a long time and never head-coached college ball.

Still, when the pursuit reached fever-pitch, I think people quit looking at things logically. They got crazy. Everyone saw what he could bring to the table and lots of other schools were drooling over him. That is when it became this insane competition that we had to win at all costs. Now that we have lost it, we are seeing posters throwing in the towel. That makes no sense in a sensible world. In the crazy world, maybe...
 
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I wanted him because I thought he was the one candidate that could turn our fortunes around in the shortest amount of time. I thought with the kind of attention he would command, recruits would line up to play for him. I really don't see any other coach out there that could create that kind of seismic shift in the recruiting landscape. Not saying there aren't other coaches out there that could come in and win. I'm just saying that Gruden looked to me to be the one guy who could come in and do it in a season or two.
 
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ramvol7 said:
The fan base has been downtrodden for many years. An eleven year decline has left many of us with very little to be hopeful for in regards to the football team. The people who have become obsessed with the possibility of hiring Jon Gruden are looking for hope. Nothing more nothing less.
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Agreed. Nicely put. Now that we have lost the pursuit, the hope is gone for those fools. The rest of us still have hope because we know there are more sensible options out there.
 
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I can't speak for anyone else but the reason I wanted Gruden had nothing to do with coaching...it was the recruiting of those 18 year old kids Promising that other coaches don't know the NFL like he does and has a ring to prove it

I was nervous over what has been described as a complicated offense but then I thought a good Assistant could temper him on that

I watch him on that show where he has players come in and talk to them and they review plays and he begins with "OK That's good but this is what you should have been thinking"

I also am not naive to think that we won't all stand behind our new coach but honestly come next fall.....we all will........until we don't

So my hope are that this thing has been decided and cooler more educated minds than mine have prevailed
How much longer till Peyton retires? I'm just sayin
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I wanted him because I thought he was the one candidate that could turn our fortunes around in the shortest amount of time. I thought with the kind of attention he would command, recruits would line up to play for him. I really don't see any other coach out there that could create that kind of seismic shift in the recruiting landscape. Not saying there aren't other coaches out there that could come in and win. I'm just saying that Gruden looked to me to be the one guy who could come in and do it in a season or two.
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I agree he could have done that. But I don't think he was really ever on the radar in any realistic sense.
 
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BandVOL said:
I can't speak for anyone else but the reason I wanted Gruden had nothing to do with coaching...it was the recruiting of those 18 year old kids Promising that other coaches don't know the NFL like he does and has a ring to prove it
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Yep, that would have been a HUGE advantage for UT and I think a lot of Vol fans felt that way. The problem I see with this, though, is that Tennessee had a lot of excellent, highly-rated athletes come to play and still lost to teams with far weaker talent pools. Yes, I know, Dooley and his staff are the reason for that. But still, Gruden would have to coach the kids to wins on Saturday. Not saying he couldn't, but I never saw it as the sure thing so many others saw.
 
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carolinaviking said:
I think the real reason so many wanted Gruden so badly was because getting him was a competition, a race, a game to be won. Everyone wanted him and since our program could not win on the field, many felt that winning the Gruden battle would show that Tennessee is still a winner, still an elite program. To lose him would only verify that mighty UT is that much closer to falling from the ranks of the elite. They put all their eggs in one basket, now where are they?
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Bama would refuse to take NO for an answer.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I wanted him because I thought he was the one candidate that could turn our fortunes around in the shortest amount of time. I thought with the kind of attention he would command, recruits would line up to play for him. I really don't see any other coach out there that could create that kind of seismic shift in the recruiting landscape. Not saying there aren't other coaches out there that could come in and win. I'm just saying that Gruden looked to me to be the one guy who could come in and do it in a season or two.
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Well said - sums up my thoughts exactly. i disagree with the OP's response to this about Gruden never being on the radar, but aside from whether he was or wasn't,I say why not shoot for the stars?!
 
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carolinaviking said:
Agreed. Nicely put. Now that we have lost the pursuit, the hope is gone for those fools. The rest of us still have hope because we know there are more sensible options out there.
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Well damn! Wish I hadn't even posted in this thread now that I read this from you - just disrespectful to fellow Vols fans (if you really are such). You realize the phrase "sensible" hire reals of mediocrity (at best right now)
 
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I didn't expect Hart to beg Gruden to come to Tennessee and admire him for not doing so. I trust that Hart will hire a competent coach soon.
 
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we wanted him for recruiting and the chance to get back to winning national and sec titles. plan and simple.
 
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UTHorsey said:
I wanted him because he would be able to recruit like a boss. He would put together an impressive staff. He has a winning record in the NFL and has a superbowl ring.
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I wanted him because of the circus that would have been UTK football. Fun times, maybe not a lot of wins early on, but fun times and even better pressers than CDD.
 
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