Official Jon Gruden Thread XII

[Catbone]

I'm done. Staring at this screen for so long hoping for something is making my head hurt. Night all

 

[volatil]

So has this thread officially died to the Gruden dream??

Nope. I am keeping an open mind should hart not get out of this corner he has painted himself into.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I think by 2014 eight wins with Golden is possible.

He would have to not only salvage this years class, but seriously improve it, or he would have a massive hole in an already thin lineup. I don't think he would excite ANY recruits into switching this year, so I think he would have the same problems as Dooley inherited. I do not under any circumstance see him winning many more games aside from divine intervention.

 

[zjcvols]

Miami had like 17 commitments during the summer time. They haven't had a commitment since September.

I wonder why that is?

 

[rhinoblake]

Yes, he does.

Love this quote:

"Fedora summed up his philosophy with a quote from George S. Patton--"Instead of waiting to see what might develop, attack constantly, vigorously and viciously. Never let up, never stop, always attack."

Sounds like Johnny

 

[workingvol81]

Nothing brightens my day more than the "soon" images. There's one of some creepy dude stalking teenage girls at a pool...shouldn't be funny, right? It's hilarious.

:good!:

 

[Int'lVOLofMystery]

Who is the Walrus?

 

[orangepeopleeater]

In the end Tennessee might have to bite the bullet and take a gamble on Petrino or Tressel. I know I'm going to get flamed so flame away, but if the rest of the big names turn us down. The only ones left is coaches that have hardly no experience and no one really knows. Let's just hope Gruden comes through.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

And he had the toughest rebuilding job in the country when he took over (Golden that is).

It's the freakin' MAC. Saban tied for 1st in that conference his first year.

 

[CourtJester]

He is a defensive minded coach that we certainly need

I love his physical style he plays. It's what wins in the SEC

He is a proven elite recruiter

He has proven he is winner as a HC

He is young which I think is important with this hire

Young as in compared to Paterno or who? He's 52. I'd say that's in between.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

I wonder why that is?

It's still Miami, one of the Top 10 easiest places to recruit, even with NCAA troubles.

 

[zjcvols]

It's the freakin' MAC. Saban tied for 1st in that conference his first year.

Because conferences never change.

Saban's first year was 1990.

Golden's first year (in the MAC) was 2006.

 

[RockyTop411]

Goodnight, Volnation, from my computer.
Hey Volnation! From my phone for another hour lurking.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Give me a Golden coached team in two years and I'll bet we're in the SEC championship game. The big thing with him is getting an excellent recruiting staff. Golden can flat out coach.

 

[ShieldsUp]

So has this thread officially died to the Gruden dream??

I have been around since Gruden II and this is the shakiest I have seen the thread. I still believe it will happen simply because of Hart's inaction. During his presser when Dooley was fired, the guy was way too confident and already seemed to have his guy. Until today, there has been nothing that would lead anyone to think differently.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Nope. I am keeping an open mind should hart not get out of this corner he has painted himself into.

Hart has not painted himself in a corner....explain how he did

 

[vol66]

Why? Fedora runs the same thing as Sumlin at TAMU.

Actually, not really...Sumlin runs his O like Gundy, Leach, Holgorsen...Fedora is really a little more like what Urban Meyer ran but a bit of a hybrid...the way the plays are called, no huddle looks it's a bit different.

Just so you know where I'm comin' from...If we're down the list that far, I'd rather shoot for Greg Roman.

 

[BruinVol]

Young as in compared to Paterno or who? He's 52. I'd say that's in between.

Lol. I was humbled on that one. He looks darn you anyway!!

 

[Kingston Vol]

It's still Miami, one of the Top 10 easiest places to recruit, even with NCAA troubles.

It's not as easy as you think. That job is pretty terrible.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Because conferences never change.

Saban's first year was 1990.

Golden's first year (in the MAC) was 2006.

The MAC has never been relevant, no matter the year.

 

[crparker21]

Give me a Golden coached team in two years and I'll bet we're in the SEC championship game. The big thing with him is getting an excellent recruiting staff. Golden can flat out coach.

If he is hired i hope your right, i just dont see any evidence to back this up. Im not impressed by temple.

 

[ManningBerry#1]

Miami had like 17 commitments during the summer time. They haven't had a commitment since September.

Sounds like us...

 

[Orange_Scooter]

Hubbs, Hyams, and Low just seem lost on this search. According to Hubbs, Dave Hart is just sitting in his office, making a couple of phone calls, and waiting on the coach's convention. He shot down the Gruden stuff until today when Hyams came out with the cancellation news and then he regurgitated it. Now he's guessing that Hart was just throwing a hail mary by asking Gruden for a preliminary meeting and he was immediately rejected. This just does not add up to me. Why would the AD leak this to Hubbs and Hyams to embarass themselves instead of just saying that Gruden was not apart of the search? Sounds like the AD is controlling these guys and trying to get the heat off of Gruden by releasing this information.

Yup. Quite a few folks are having problems with this. It just doesn't seem right. This post on OuterMonvolia sums it up for me and makes a hell of a lot of sense here. I dunno where it originated from, but it is very interesting. Scroll down it's the longer post on there. I think it was C/P'd from another forum.

At any rate, just to sum up, I think the AD is controlling what's coming out and getting their media minions to squash the Memphis report last night. I think ESPN did the same thing with Mike and Mike's interview with Gruden. Either way, I think we'll know for certain by Friday. Past that I think our chances to land Gruden are slim to none, but I expected that anyway because they need to get a coach in fairly soon.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

It's not as easy as you think. That job is pretty terrible.

You know as well as I do, that Miami has never had an issue recruiting, even with NCAA problems. So, if Golden is that good of a coach, why can't he do better?? He's in one of the most talent laden areas in America.

 

[warrior]

I have been around since Gruden II and this is the shakiest I have seen the thread. I still believe it will happen simply because of Hart's inaction. During his presser when Dooley was fired, the guy was way too confident and already seemed to have his guy. Until today, there has been nothing that would lead anyone to think differently.

and the news today came from Mike and Mike and Hyams. Really!