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The talk about the process involved here to me is simple. In my opinion a hire could be made at any point going forward and comply with state law. I have some experience in that process and I see no reason it would delay a hire
 
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ITSGR82BATNVOL said:
I can give you one example right off the bat. he was less than 50% on his recruiting calls last year, and that is supposedly his specialty. Being wrong is not what pisses people off btw, taking no responsibility is. He and others never admit to being wrong, it's always the recruit lied to the staff, or it fell through at the last minute BS. You don't have to believe me, as I said do your research and see for yourself.
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Well, for the record... If the recruits lied, or it fell through at the last minute, those would be valid responses. Also, when one gives reason for being wrong, they are implicit admissions to being wrong.

Recruiting, like coaching searches, are all behind-the-scenes, fluid enterprises. It's hard to know what happens and doesn't. It basically all comes down to "what/who ya gonna believe?"

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BruinVol said:
Here's my best take on the procedure.

Timeframe is flexible. See timing of DD hire

3 people must interviewed but phone interviews do suffice.

No minority candidate has to be interviewed
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Bold is absolutely not correct. They do not have to interview three people.

The last about minority candidates is correct. They do not. They are only required to treat any and all candidates equally.
 
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Wilson27 said:
I heard him but not even sure anymore of what we are arguing about? Do you believe he came to that on his own?
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Me either, this place is insane lol. If you're asking, do i think DH made the decision to announce DD was let go on his on, the answer is yes. The fan base was turning against DD, more and more with each passing minute. DH had to announce he would not be back next year to protect his own standing, once we lost to Vandy, and any chance for a bowl was shot. That being said, had we beat Vandy, and KY, I am 100% confident, an announcement would still have come after the KY game, that DD would not retained, however I think he would have been allowed to coach the bowl game if he wanted. Clear now?
 
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Semi-related question:

What are the tax implications of a booster giving money to the UTAD to cover the coaches buyouts vs. making a contribution to the university (ie, setting up a trust) to cover scholarships or other academic concerns?

Just wondering. If there is a difference, then that could have been the reason for the $18 million "give back". The announcement seemed to imply the university would be made whole through other means. Maybe it was done that way to make the gift more palatable tax-wise to the booster.
 
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PermaVol said:
I don't know if they have interviewed anyone or not, just posing a question because I thought they were required to interview 3 candidates including an affirmative action candidate. Another poster just made a good point on the Dooley hire though; he was hired 3 days (I think it was) after Kiffin left.

Did we? I follow the thread closely but must have missed that. So the 10 days etc isn't accurate then?
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Typical "civil service" type hiring rules will not apply in these circumstances. This is basically a contract job, and not a standard "employment at will" position. Think logically about this . . . if all these supposed posting and interview rules had to be applied to the head coach position, they would apply to all the assistant coach positions as well. Anybody recall seeing a vacancy posting for RB coach when Jay Graham was hired? Who did Kiffin interview besides his dad for DC? I'm just saying, the Chancellor has it within his authority to waive any of these type rules that may exist for expediency purposes, and frequently does for hires at this level. How do I know this? 25 years human resources management experience in state and local government and large non-profit organizations.
 
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OSVolFan said:
Bold is absolutely not correct. They do not have to interview three people.

The last about minority candidates is correct. They do not. They are only required to treat any and all candidates equally.
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We already hired a minority anyway; a coach with a losing record.
 
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If Gruden falls through I say went go to Shaw from Stanford. I like his offense and he don't have the "best talent" I am a firm believer that tennessee can get the best talent when we are winning and Shaw is a winner.
 
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Jimmy Hyams is clueless. Throwing out all kinds of names a offensive line coach and the offensive cordinator of the falcons. Hoping the Gruden deal is done. I am still holding on to hope Tennessee won't screw this up again.
 
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AmoebaVol said:
Semi-related question:

What are the tax implications of a booster giving money to the UTAD to cover the coaches buyouts vs. making a contribution to the university (ie, setting up a trust) to cover scholarships or other academic concerns?

Just wondering. If there is a difference, then that could have been the reason for the $18 million "give back". The announcement seemed to imply the university would be made whole through other means. Maybe it was done that way to make the gift more palatable tax-wise to the booster.
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I deducted that in-order to skirt the rules that boosters aren't allowed to donate money specifically to buy-out coaches that the University is giving $18m to the AD and then the boosters will donate that back to the University for academics.

Tax-wise I can't see any difference for the boosters or the University because the AD and University aren't completely separate (I believe) like they are at say Florida. Even when separated I would assume an AD is set-up as a non-profit entity, could be wrong there though.
 
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TNfan3 said:
Jimmy Hyams is clueless. Throwing out all kinds of names a offensive line coach and the offensive cordinator of the falcons. Hoping the Gruden deal is done. I am still holding on to hope Tennessee won't screw this up again.
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Hyams last tweet someone posted is hilarious.
 
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Stopping by..has the mood gotten better in here?

I have a little time right now b/c I'm waiting on my hair to dry then it'll be time to get ready to go to the hockey game..

A break from everything will be good and return to the action refreshed.
 
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My ex father-in-law is a VERY VERY wealthy man! He lives in South Carolina and attended and played football at a particular college in SC. He is on the BODs and numerous other boards at the school and within SC. He has given millions in donations for campus upgrades/updates and hundreds of thousands in scholarship money! He is NOT as wealth as some of the BODs at UT. Let me tell you this...if a decission isto be made at his college, you better damn believe that he had a hand in it! The moral of my story is....you had better damn believe that Hart has NOTHING to do with the hiring of the head football coach at the University of Tennessee! He is nothing but a yes man....mark it down!
 
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