Recruiting Forum: Football Talk II

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AbarVolfan15 said:
The "best man" doesn't always win the war, but in 2010 Tennessee needed the "best man" to turn the program around. Dooley was the right guy at the time and he put integrity back into the University of Tennessee in 2010. Was he the right guy to win in the SEC, probably not. Dooley has improved the program tremendously and he has faced extreme amounts of adversity. I am proud to have Dooley as the coach. Hopefully the next coach can bring a winning culture and an honorable one.
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Well said, very well said.

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HankHill said:
QB scouting is totally different. So many different variable.

Either way when a guy gets taken in the 1st round. There is no way he is "garbage"
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He wasn't even a good college player. I give you examples of Dre playing poorly. Name me good plays that he's made in coverage.

SN: Mel Kiper is respected by the public. Not coaches or GMs really. I don't knock his hustle but stop pumping this dude up. Check his history he never even put a helmet on in his life. He's never spent time coaching in any form. So do you really think that he knows more about the game just because he's all over ESPN? If teams respected him so much then why wasn't he a GM a while back? He talks fast and keeps that hair together. :) he pumps guys up because he can't really talk down on them being that it wouldn't look good for him to pump negativity on the network consistently.
 
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head1 said:
Just go to their football site and look at who they have played since 2000. Nobody.

And the good teams he did play, he lost to. I didnt see any wins against anyone of note other than the Rose Bowl win and a win over Boise.
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I'll give you that being in the MWC and the WAC he didn't play against anyone but he's still a hot name just like Chris Peterson although no coach has ever left Boise that I can remember and done anything anywhere else. Just strickly looking at wins and losses though I don't see how anyone likes Charlie Strong more or less than Gary Patterson just my personal opinion. I'll be happy if we hire almost aanyone but Petrino and Smart.
 
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head1 said:
Just go to their football site and look at who they have played since 2000. Nobody.

And the good teams he did play, he lost to. I didnt see any wins against anyone of note other than the Rose Bowl win and a win over Boise.
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I don't think its logical to complain about Dooley's record at La. Tech before coming here and then turn around and argue that a man won 75% of his game. He played who was on the schedule. So did Tressell before OSU. So did Urban before UF. And on and on...

If this is how it is, we have to get Saban or bust. And then we would have to forget the Dolphins.
 
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coolorange said:
I'll give you that being in the MWC and the WAC he didn't play against anyone but he's still a hot name just like Chris Peterson although no coach has ever left Boise that I can remember and done anything anywhere else. Just strickly looking at wins and losses though I don't see how anyone likes Charlie Strong more or less than Gary Patterson just my personal opinion. I'll be happy if we hire almost aanyone but Petrino and Smart.
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Petrino could win fast and a lot here IMO.

You can recruit better here than at Arkansas and we will give him the money to hire a Dcoord.

Do you think recruits care if hes riding a harley with a hottie? Nope, if anything they will ask him to get a suv and tag along... maybe even with heather harrington :thumbsup:
 
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coolorange said:
I'll give you that being in the MWC and the WAC he didn't play against anyone but he's still a hot name just like Chris Peterson although no coach has ever left Boise that I can remember and done anything anywhere else. Just strickly looking at wins and losses though I don't see how anyone likes Charlie Strong more or less than Gary Patterson just my personal opinion. I'll be happy if we hire almost aanyone but Petrino and Smart.
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With all evidence that we currently have, it is pretty apparent that Charlie Strong is a better recruiters, and he has rebuilt that Louisville program as opposed to Patterson who has really not done much more than maintain what Franchione started
 
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So after reading through a few pages it seems that no one is impressed w/ the candidates list? & I agree. It's not very impressive. I think the last 2 searches we've conducted had better top heavy candidates. Besides Gruden, which I don't think is happening, I don't see a true "Home Run" hire out there. JMO.
 
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HankHill said:
Petrino could win fast and a lot here IMO.

You can recruit better here than at Arkansas and we will give him the money to hire a Dcoord.

Do you think recruits care if hes riding a harley with a hottie? Nope, if anything they will ask him to get a suv and tag along... maybe even with heather harrington :thumbsup:
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O I couldn't care less about his morel choices god knows I've made bad one's myself. I just never liked him as a coach not that he wasn't successful just never liked him just personal preference I guess.
 
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vol2013 said:
With all evidence that we currently have, it is pretty apparent that Charlie Strong is a better recruiters, and he has rebuilt that Louisville program as opposed to Patterson who has really not done much more than maintain what Franchione started
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Maintain is better than dropping which is what we have done lately. He's still had to coach the players in that he's recruited he's been there 11 years. I'll give you that Strong looks to be a better recruiter but better HC I just don't agree not saying either is bad I just like Patterson better both are in my top five that I would like so to me it's really just splitting hairs.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
So after reading through a few pages it seems that no one is impressed w/ the candidates list? & I agree. It's not very impressive. I think the last 2 searches we've conducted had better top heavy candidates. Besides Gruden, which I don't think is happening, I don't see a true "Home Run" hire out there. JMO.
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I think Stoops leaves OU this year.
 
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Strong,Patterson,Petrino >>>>>>> Dooley

Those 3 are the most probable replacements IMO, and all 3 would be upgrades. all 3 would have yay and nay sayers.
 
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Petrtino will be coaching somewhere next year.

In 8 years as a head coach in college, he has a 75-26
record (.743). At Louisville and Arkansas, not bama, LSU, FL or Texas. Before this season started that was better than Saban, Miles, Spurrier and Mack Brown. In the same division of the SEC that produced
the national champion each year.

He is the only coach in history to lead 2 different teams to their first BCS bowl game. Arkansas to Sugar and Louisville to Orange. In the 8 years, had 3 teams ranked in top 6 and 5 teams in top 15...at Louisville and Arkansas.

AT ARKANSAS:
In 2008 at Arkansas, he went 5-7 (2-6 in the conference) and set 8 school records. Beat LSU and AU in his first year playing 16 true freshman.
In 2009, improved to 8-5 (3-5) and set 26 school records. First in SEC in passing (3,624) and scoring. Won bowl game.
In 2010, improved to 10-3 (6-2) and set 48 school records. Lost to #1, #5 and #8. First in passing (3,869 yards) and second in scoring in SEC.
In 2011, improved to 11-2 (6-2) and set 24 school records. Only 2 losses to #1 and #2. Led SEC passing and scoring offense and top 15 nationally. Scored on 52% of offensive possessions. Tyler Wilson passed
for 3638 yards. Won the Cotton bowl.
*In these 4 years, Ark lost to the national champions 4 times and the runner up once. The team
improved every year. *Arkansas had 2 questionable fumbles called against AU in 2010. One would have been a TD and the other was returned for a TD by AU that sealed the game.
*In 09, 10 and 11, Arkansas led the conference in passing offense and scoring and never finished
outside third in total offense. Finished in the top 10 or 20 in the nation in almost all offensive categories.
*Arkansas was ranked in the top 10 for 10 straight BCS rankings and the top 25 for 32 consecutive weeks.
*Most school wins and SEC wins in school history for 2 consecutive years.
* In 2011, final ranking #5 and beat 4 top 15 teams that season. In 2010, ranked 12.

AT LOUISVILLE
In 2003, he went 9-4 (5-3). Scored 30 points in 11 of 13 games and 40 points 5 times.
In2004, improved to 11-1 (8-0), conference champs, #6 AP final ranking. Led nation in scoring and total offense. Scored 30 in 11 games, 40 in 9
games, 50 in 7 games, 60 in 2 games and 70 in one game. Brohm was freshman of year and Lefours was conference player of year.
In 2005, went 9-3 (5-2) and final AP ranking of 15. Finished 3rd in scoring and 9th in total offense in nation. Scored 30 in 11 games, 40 in 8 games,
50 in 4 games and 60 in 3 games. Brohm was player of year in conference.
In 2006, improved to 12-1 (6-1), conference champs and #6 final AP ranking. 4th scoring and 2nd total offense in nation. Scored 30 in 8 games, 40 in 6 games and 50 in 2games. Brohm passed for 3049 and all conference.

Took Louisville to 1st BCS bowl, first Big East title, most wins in a season and highest ranking in school
history. Had 4 wins over top 10 teams in 2006. Won 2 conference titles and played for a third.

CAREER
Scored 20 points in 87% of all games.
Scored 30 points in 67% of all games.
Scored 40 points in 46% of all games.
Top 25 in scoring, passing and total offense in 7 of 8 seasons.

DEFENSE
In 2003, was 22 in nation in total Defense.
In 2004, ranked 15 in nation in total defense. (Led nation in offense
this same year. Only team in nation to have a top 5 O and top 15 D).
In 2005, ranked 23 in nation in total defense.
In 2006, ranked 39 in nation in total defense.
In 2007, first year at Ark playing 16 true freshman, ranked 72.
In 2008, ranked 79 in total defense.
In 2009, ranked 36 intotal defense.
In 2008, ranked 47 intotal defense.

Had 8 defensive players drafted in the NFL.
 
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jmoore_21 said:
If a proven winner is what everyone wants then Stoops would be a good hire, I think he's only making $4.3 mill at OU. That's less than Mack Brown whose butt he whoops every year.
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Why would stoops leave? Other than maybe if USC makes a change. but the only way i think he leaves is just to retire
 
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HankHill said:
Why would stoops leave? Other than maybe if USC makes a change. but the only way i think he leaves is just to retire
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I'm not saying he would leave, I do agree w/ OCI that Stoops may need to move on. That fanbase is getting tired of only winning 10-11 games a year, they want national titles.

Hell, I think we can all agree that we'd take 9-11 win seasons consistently right now. I know I would.
 
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vol2013 said:
With all evidence that we currently have, it is pretty apparent that Charlie Strong is a better recruiters, and he has rebuilt that Louisville program as opposed to Patterson who has really not done much more than maintain what Franchione started
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this is not apparant to me at all - the big east is worse than it has ever been and they played noone ooc - so what is apparant to me is that bridgewater is a good player, their defense (strong's strongsuit) is terrible, and they have beaten no team of consequence
 
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