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Coastypop said:
If all these rumors are false, then they sure are not helping the program... Hart has to be aware of that ... that keeps me here... along with the entertainment
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The rumors aren't false, they're just exaggerated. If we want a legitimate shot at Gruden, there needs to be some major development in the meeting Friday.
 
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jos3ywales said:
When this is all over we will all have to go to the same REHAB center to be weened off the Gruden Drug we have all been on it to long now We are Addicted it is in our systems our body craves it
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To Heck with them fellows!! Buzzards got to eat, same as worms!
 
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FearlessFreep said:
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love that movie......cool
 
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I'm just waiting around for the BOT's meeting to be over and then we will see what's up. My biggest concern right now is that the administration gets their act together and everyone gets on the same page.
 
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Okay - here is what I know:

There has been a lot of information circling about - so hopefully this will clear things up.

We will know a lot more about the direction we are headed next week. There are several things in play but the most immediate and visible would be Mizzou - a loss there could expedite a decision on Dooley.

The BOT meeting has significant impact on the future of football and athletics in general at UT.

There are three sides to what is happening right now regarding Dooley:

1: Boosters - they are ready and have been ready to let Dooley walk. They have the money and are willing to put up the buyout. They have the money and are willing to pay a big time coach. They have been working behind the scenes for a while now getting things set up to hand over to Hart.

2. Hart - He is in a tough spot. He is limited by what he can control. He has been a fan of Dooley's. I think he still is. But he is listening to the Boosters. He will not make a change without having a big name, proven guy to replace Dooley. This has been his stance all along. Are there scenarios where Dooley is retained? Yes, I now believe so.

3. Cheek/University side: This is where things recently got complicated. There are deep issues here that need to be resolved. The UT AD does not have autonomy and they need it. They need help from the admissions/academic side and they need to be in control of their earnings.

Now, let's circle back to Gruden. It was my belief and still is that an agreement had been reached. From what I understand now, this was only regarding years and money. Nothing formally was presented to him.

But since that time, there has been ongoing conversations and specific inquires to the control he would have, the control the AD would have and the issues between the AD and the University side were brought up. This is a major deterrent and from what I understand Gruden has cooled a bit.

Boosters - who are the ones that have orchestrated this whole thing behind the scenes are now realizing it's not just a money issue and even their power is limited because of the stronghold the university side has on the AD side.

So, that is what I understand as of today. There will be lots of questions and very few answers. It's honestly a mess.

We will know more next week.


And as a P.S. - I will not be around for a little while, so I am not just posting this and running. I will be back later today.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
The rumors aren't false, they're just exaggerated. If we want a legitimate shot at Gruden, there needs to be some major development in the meeting Friday.
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May not have to be "major", I hope. As long as some things change and he can see its going to continue to go the right way, I think Gruden comes. He wants to help this program.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Okay - here is what I know:

There has been a lot of information circling about - so hopefully this will clear things up.

We will know a lot more about the direction we are headed next week. There are several things in play but the most immediate and visible would be Mizzou - a loss there could expedite a decision on Dooley.

The BOT meeting has significant impact on the future of football and athletics in general at UT.

There are three sides to what is happening right now regarding Dooley:

1: Boosters - they are ready and have been ready to let Dooley walk. They have the money and are willing to put up the buyout. They have the money and are willing to pay a big time coach. They have been working behind the scenes for a while now getting things set up to hand over to Hart.

2. Hart - He is in a tough spot. He is limited by what he can control. He has been a fan of Dooley's. I think he still is. But he is listening to the Boosters. He will not make a change without having a big name, proven guy to replace Dooley. This has been his stance all along. Are there scenarios where Dooley is retained? Yes, I now believe so.

3. Cheek/University side: This is where things recently got complicated. There are deep issues here that need to be resolved. The UT AD does not have autonomy and they need it. They need help from the admissions/academic side and they need to be in control of their earnings.

Now, let's circle back to Gruden. It was my belief and still is that an agreement had been reached. From what I understand now, this was only regarding years and money. Nothing formally was presented to him.

But since that time, there has been ongoing conversations and specific inquires to the control he would have, the control the AD would have and the issues between the AD and the University side were brought up. This is a major deterrent and from what I understand Gruden has cooled a bit.

Boosters - who are the ones that have orchestrated this whole thing behind the scenes are now realizing it's not just a money issue and even their power is limited because of the stronghold the university side has on the AD side.

So, that is what I understand as of today. There will be lots of questions and very few answers. It's honestly a mess.

We will know more next week.


And as a P.S. - I will not be around for a little while, so I am not just posting this and running. I will be back later today.
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This all sounds legit.

All I'm saying is you exaggerated what you initially posted. Now, it seems, you've realized that.
 
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