Official Jon Gruden Thread V

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Well time to bounce around for a few and then shut it down for the night...

Keep the dream alive.... It has to get better at some point... Good night all....

Smokey just leave the purse on the coffee table until I get back on tomorrow night.. :)
 
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volatil said:
Im up to about 40 reasons and that guy wanted 3. Where did he go?
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haha still here. I asked that question not only for myself, but my buddy down in starkville is writing an argumentative paper. Since he loves sports and talking about them, I told him to write about why UT should fire Dooley. He loved it but needed 3 solid reasons he could write about. All i had was the record, sec wins, ranked wins, etc so I posted since yall seem pretty confident about firing him!

as for my personal opinion, I would love to see charlie strong as a vol.
 
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daj2576 said:
Every secret? No. I doubt anyone has. However I dont go telling people who I do not know things that I have a vested interest to keep quiet.

If there is a reason to keep this quiet, why would the real players sacrifice the outcome when they invested tons of their own money and time to achieve by releasing information that they openly admit should keep quiet? It seems self defeating.

Also, if these people are telling this privileged information to so many people, why has thes major media not been verifying these same rumors? If we can come to a message board and get such good information, real reporters should have no problem.
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At work when there is a change about to be made it usually comes out before it's officially announced. There are people who were wage roll that have been promoted to mgmt that are privy to certain info, that have friends who are still in wage roll, that they tell things to. Think of a secretary that overhears things, or someone who still hunts with a mgmt member. After a few beers one will start talking."Hey, this is between me, you, and the fence post." If it's something as big as a coaching change, it's hard to keep your mouth shut. I'm not saying that this is what's happening, I'm just saying it could be.
 
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CWGvol said:
It just doesn't work like that. This is the same way the Saban deal, and every other deal happened. Rumors first, the media must be sure first if the are reputable.
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Sports journalism isnt the wall street journal. Even ESPN has a whole staff dedicated to a "rumor central". Even they arent going so far as to jump on this story to the extent so many here are. What penalty would they pay for reporting an incorrect rumor? If they are right their stock goes through the roof, so why not report it if there is a scentilla of proof?
 
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On the G-train after hoping that doolz would succeed. Hope that it happens and we return to our place of prominence in the SEC.
 
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cutnitclose said:
Well time to bounce around for a few and then shut it down for the night...

Keep the dream alive.... It has to get better at some point... Good night all....

Smokey just leave the purse on the coffee table until I get back on tomorrow night.. :)
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Ok, but I'll take all the money out b/c it belongs to the Chucky fund.:p
 
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griffdog14 said:
haha still here. I asked that question not only for myself, but my buddy down in starkville is writing an argumentative paper. Since he loves sports and talking about them, I told him to write about why UT should fire Dooley. He loved it but needed 3 solid reasons he could write about. All i had was the record, sec wins, ranked wins, etc so I posted since yall seem pretty confident about firing him!

as for my personal opinion, I would love to see charlie strong as a vol.
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So you weren't defending. OK, my bad. Did our list help?
 
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daj2576 said:
Possible.

Could also be leaked by Gruden's people to help increase negotiations with other potential jobs.

Again, the oroblem I have is that for so much noise none of the legitimate editorialized "media" has parroted this speculation. These same sources opine frequently about all sorts of rumor or inuendo. What sort of conspiracy exists to suggest that so many would keep this quiet while there is so much "good" information floating around?
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You have seen everybody from espn to Hubbs to Basilio saying the rumors have legs, right?
 
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Vol_atile said:
At work when there is a change about to be made it usually comes out before it's officially announced. There are people who were wage roll that have been promoted to mgmt that are privy to certain info, that have friends who are still in wage roll, that they tell things to. Think of a secretary that overhears things, or someone who still hunts with a mgmt member. After a few beers one will start talking."Hey, this is between me, you, and the fence post." If it's something as big as a coaching change, it's hard to keep your mouth shut. I'm not saying that this is what's happening, I'm just saying it could be.
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Sure, it could be the case. I actually hope it is. To use your same metaphor about work, my personal experience is that there are usually a ton of conflicting rumors first. Simeone ends up being right, but most oeople chose the rumor they wanted to believe ro begin with. Many are sorely disappointed when management steps up to squash the rumor and innuendo to salvage morale.
 
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daj2576 said:
Look, I am not saying that any of this is impossible. I am just saying it is improbable that so many people have legitimate sources that are so closely involved as to know what is really going on.

Also, those that have good information, if their is a reason to keep this quiet, have really crappy friends who go and tell people on a message board.

It would stand to reason that a reason for silence would be as to not jeopardize ongoing talks so by simply talking, the process is jeopardized.
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Maybe those involved want some information out in the public to create an air of popular support (To demonstate to Gruden or BOT that fanbase support for the idea is real). Now if you did want the fanbase to know that something is going on, what better place to leak it than a rumor and speculation message board. The media will blow it off which will keep them from asking too many probing questions. If that was there intent, it is working quite well.
 
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daj2576 said:
Sports journalism isnt the wall street journal. Even ESPN has a whole staff dedicated to a "rumor central". Even they arent going so far as to jump on this story to the extent so many here are. What penalty would they pay for reporting an incorrect rumor? If they are right their stock goes through the roof, so why not report it if there is a scentilla of proof?
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But Gruden is an ESPN employee. They have a vested interest in the situation.
 
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volatil said:
Forgot about that. Who was the kid that was hurt and he called him out every week. Kid's career is over because of that injury Dooley kept dismissing.
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Cody Pope...

Not too mention the whole Bryce Brown fiasco which makes me wonder if Dooley didn't screw that up too!

edit: I was WAY late on the Cody Pope name drop
 
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