Official Jon Gruden Thread V

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JayVols said:
I was talking about dismissing the coach. I don't think they beat us on the field.

Keep this in mind though:

KY has already fired a coach that is more successful in SEC play than Dooley. That sucks. Bad. Really bad.
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Come on, Jay! You're way off! Joker's WP in SEC is .211 and Dooley's is FAR better at .235!
 
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Today on espn insider:

Going into yesterday's game against Troy, it was generally assumed that Tennessee Volunteers coach Derek Dooley would be fired if he lost one more game this year. Well, the Volunteers got their win over Troy, but just barely, needing a late touchdown to escape with a 55-48 victory over a team that is just 3-3 in the Sun Belt Conference. It was about as bad as a win can be, but it was still a win, and ESPN.com national writer Travis Haney thinks Dooley can still save his job. He's not so sure, though about one of Dooley's key assistants:

- Vince Verhei



Travis Haney
Someone's getting fired in Knoxville

"As it is, I still say if the Vols win out -- beating Missouri, Vanderbilt and Kentucky -- Dooley might be OK. As I suggested last week, that likely means the Vandy game is for Dooley's job. Then again, seeing how close Troy was, every week is a battle for his job. All season, I had been trying to give first-year defensive coordinator Sal Sunseri a pass. The Vols' defensive personnel is so-so and losing safety Brian Randolph back in September was a big blow. But the more I talk with those close to the program, the more I hear Sunseri was a really poor save-your-job coordinator hire, and he seems in over his head leading an entire defense and making any sort of in-game adjustments."
 
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#3,957
Wondering where all the insiders are with new info. Seems like one person said that Gruden was coming then everyone and their mom had an insider that was feeding them info. Now all of the sudden nothing! Don't try and feed me the BS that it is a done deal because we all know its not! If it was it would have already been announced Dooley was fired! Say all you want that he already knows but I can garuntee that he has not been told. No AD in their right mind would allow someone to continue to talk to future recruits knowing he won't be coaching for us next. WAY too much potential for him to just quit recruiting or be rude to recruits cause he does not care. We all want Gruden and sure we probably already put feelers out there but there is absolutely no reason not to announce now if the deal is already struck. Gruden might want to come here but to me it looks like we are not ready to let Dooley go until Hart can grade him on a full season.
 
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Exiled said:
I'm starting to get depressed now...Joker fired while we still have Dooley. LWS saying Gruden not coming...I think I'll go open the bottle again.
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Gruden would be great, but there are other very good hires to be made. Don't put your eggs in one basket.
 
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Smokey1210 said:
Wondering where all the insiders are with new info. Seems like one person said that Gruden was coming then everyone and their mom had an insider that was feeding them info. Now all of the sudden nothing! Don't try and feed me the BS that it is a done deal because we all know its not! If it was it would have already been announced Dooley was fired! Say all you want that he already knows but I can garuntee that he has not been told. No AD in their right mind would allow someone to continue to talk to future recruits knowing he won't be coaching for us next. WAY too much potential for him to just quit recruiting or be rude to recruits cause he does not care. We all want Gruden and sure we probably already put feelers out there but there is absolutely no reason not to announce now if the deal is already struck. Gruden might want to come here but to me it looks like we are not ready to let Dooley go until Hart can grade him on a full season.
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Uh, he might want to work in the coaching profession again. The behavior you claim would happen kills any chance of future employment in said field. Look beyond here and now.
 
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vol2002 said:
Gruden would be great, but there are other very good hires to be made. Don't put your eggs in one basket.
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There's only 2 or 3 guys on the level of Gruden.

Carroll, Meyer, Stoops, and Gruden.

The only one we have a chance of getting is Gruden, and apparently we probably don't get him.

Everyone else (although quality hires) is a huge drop off.
 
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vol2002 said:
Gruden would be great, but there are other very good hires to be made. Don't put your eggs in one basket.
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Agree that there are other good hires. But, I don't think any would have the splash of Gruden, nor get us back as quickly.

Really, the most depressing thing is that Dooley is still here when others are letting their dead wood go already.
 
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UTodd01 said:
There's only 2 or 3 guys on the level of Gruden.

Carroll, Meyer, Stoops, and Gruden.

The only one we have a chance of getting is Gruden, and apparently we probably don't get him.

Everyone else (although quality hires) is a huge drop off.
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I agree....since JG is out..throw some big money at stoops!!
 
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The attitude of some who enter a forum named COACHING RUMOR AND SPECULATION is mind boggling. Some act like they have lost money on this. If you don't believe great move along. This beating of your chest is annoying. There is no one in this thread claiming 100% done, never has.
 
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Exiled said:
Agree that there are other good hires. But, I don't think any would have the splash of Gruden, nor get us back as quickly.

Really, the most depressing thing is that Dooley is still here when others are letting their dead wood go already.
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Agreed..That is quite depressing.:blink:
 
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Exiled said:
Agree that there are other good hires. But, I don't think any would have the splash of Gruden, nor get us back as quickly.

Really, the most depressing thing is that Dooley is still here when others are letting their dead wood go already.
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Exactly.

Outside of Carroll, Stoops, Meyer, and Gruden - there are no 'splashes' to be had.

Although coaches like Patterson and Peterson would be solid, quality hires - we need the splash.
 
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volatil said:
The attitude of some who enter a forum named COACHING RUMOR AND SPECULATION is mind boggling. Some act like they have lost money on this. If you don't believe great move along. This beating of your chest is annoying. There is no one in this thread claiming 100% done, never has.
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Actually Springbok said in previous post he was 100% sure a deal had been reached.
 
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Nothing most of you havent seen, just some of todays insider stuff.

per Chris Low

The records -- both good and bad -- were falling by the wayside Saturday for Tennessee.

Quarterback Tyler Bray threw for a school-record 530 yards, and the Vols cranked out a staggering 718 yards of total offense.

But it was Tennessee’s defense (or lack of it) that was again the story. The Vols managed to escape with a 55-48 win over Troy at Neyland Stadium despite giving up 721 yards of total offense, the most they’ve given up in school history by nearly 100 yards.

Tennessee coach Derek Dooley didn’t mince words afterward.

“It’s a bad defense,” he said.

It’s not only bad, it’s seemingly getting worse. So much so that it’s a stretch to think that the Vols (4-5, 0-5) will be able to win out in their next three games against Missouri, Vanderbilt and Kentucky.

In its past five games, Tennessee has yielded a total of 222 points and has been torched for 37 or more points in six of its past seven outings.

Dooley's job security was already hanging by a thread, and it’s going to be dicey for him to survive even if the Vols finish 7-5. But if they lose another one, he’s almost certainly gone.

Nobody close to the program thinks Tennessee athletic director Dave Hart has made a decision on Dooley’s future. Even though it was a win, the Vols’ performance Saturday won’t do a lot to help Dooley’s cause.

Equally troubling was that Neyland Stadium was as empty as it’s been in a long time, and according to conservative estimates, there were more than 30,000 empty seats in the stadium.

Other than an offense that has been pretty explosive most of this season, there’s just not much in the way of momentum in Tennessee’s program right now.

Hart has a tough decision on his hands, but the reality is that these next three games may make that decision for him.
 
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volatil said:
The attitude of some who enter a forum named COACHING RUMOR AND SPECULATION is mind boggling. Some act like they have lost money on this. If you don't believe great move along. This beating of your chest is annoying. There is no one in this thread claiming 100% done, never has.
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This. Apparently there are those that think a message board is just for disagreeing. Debate is always good, but some take it to a farther degree than what's called for.
 
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