The Arguments for Dooley

[Wilhelm16]

You're post is just wrong in so many ways. I am not a fan of dooley. But to say were less competitve is stupid. We have been in positionn to win 4 of our 5 losses.

We only appear to be in games, because our offense is explosive. However, you still have to play defense. Dooley can't keep getting by with recruiting a QB and 3 or 4 WR's every year. Wake up. We had to score 14 points in 3 minutes in order to beat a Sun Belt conference team with a 4-4 record in our homecoming game. SEC teams used to tremble at the thought of playing in Neyland. Now Troy strolls in and damn near hangs 50 on us. Vince's coffee is getting cold, Mama Dooley.

 

[HankHill]

We just gave you up 722 to Troy. We are in a much bigger mess now then we were then. That's the point

You're basing the state of our program on one game?

We are not under investigation, we have had a coach that has been here for 3 years, we have way better players and more depth...

We are not in worse shape, not even close

 

[YankeeVol]

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[HankHill]

We only appear to be in games, because our offense is explosive. However, you still have to play defense. Dooley can't keep getting by with recruiting a QB and 3 or 4 WR's every year. Wake up. We had to score 14 points in 3 minutes in order to beat a Sun Belt conference team with a 4-4 record in our homecoming game. SEC teams used to tremble at the thought of playing in Neyland. Now Troy strolls in and damn near hangs 50 on us. Vince's coffee is getting cold, Mama Dooley.

Lol you are so ignorant. We just appear to be in games???

You're right we didn't have the chance to win on a final drive vs uga,miss st, or sc. That was all just a dream.

Tennessee hasn't been in the national picture since 2002. This didn't happen over night. So keep trying with your stupid dooley jokes

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I don't have any problem with sticking with Dooley for next season but we have to clean house on the defensive side of the ball and get a DC and Assistants that can at least put a decent defense on the field. With an average defense we probably beat both SC and Georgia and are 6 and 3 right now.

I don't get this; you want to throw in the 3rd DC in 3 years and hope things get better? Won't this just be another excuse for Dooley next year, that "Oh of course we struggled, he had to adjust to yet another DC".

I get Sunseri has been a disaster, and yes he deserves to go, but if you bring back Dooley and claim he needs more time, then Sunseri should get the same treatment.

I can't understand those that want to dump Sunseri/Chaney but think Dooley deserves more time. It's insane.

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

Ah, the ole "nobody else wanted the job, so we should thank Dooley for just being here". Of all the pro-Dooley arguments, this one is the dumbest by a wide margin.

I agree. 1. for if it was too big for him he should have acknowledged as much and declined as well. 2. Kippy Brown was a better option for even the interim coach for a year.

 

[HankHill]

I don't get this; you want to throw in the 3rd DC in 3 years and hope things get better? Won't this just be another excuse for Dooley next year, that "Oh of course we struggled, he had to adjust to yet another DC".

I get Sunseri has been a disaster, and yes he deserves to go, but if you bring back Dooley and claim he needs more time, then Sunseri should get the same treatment.

I can't understand those that want to dump Sunseri/Chaney but think Dooley deserves more time. It's insane.

Esp Chaney. The offensive staff is doing great

 

[Wilhelm16]

No one is making excuse. You have no idea what you're talking about.

1. We were possibly getting hit with a lack of institutional control pentalty.
2. Lane kiffins class he recruited here was terrible. Half of the class was gone before dooley took over. And then the way he left effected recruiting the next year as well.

I'm not saying I like dooley or he has done anything good. But "sloppy" is a huge understatement of what our program was when he took over.

Oh, but it didn't happen did it? See, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Dooley can thank Kiffin for Tyler Bray. The kid was already on campus when DD arrive. Dooley can thank Kiffin for Janzen Jackson. Without him we wouldn't have seen a bowl game in 2010. Don't sit there and act like Dooley took the Penn State job.

 

[Silky_Johnson]

You're basing the state of our program on one game?

We are not under investigation, we have had a coach that has been here for 3 years, we have way better players and more depth...

We are not in worse shape, not even close

1 game? Have you watched this year? I would rather be under investigation by the NCAA then watch a performance that embarrassing.

 

[YankeeVol]

We just gave you up 721 to Troy. We are in a much bigger mess now then we were then. That's the point

Fyp

 

[HankHill]

I agree. 1. for if it was too big for him he should have acknowledged as much and declined as well. 2. Kippy Brown was a better option for even the interim coach for a year.

An interim coach for a whole offseason and year? That would've killed recruiting. No one would've commited to an interim coach

 

[hillsborovol]

I think some are confusing how well this team plays with the state of the program. We are in MUCH better shape right now than we were 3 years ago. Has everyone forgotten about the scandals, our roster being depleted with defections, arrests, early outs to the NFL, etc?

The next coach inherits a better situation than we had when Dooley arrives...and we desperately need a new coach.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

To the OP, Dooley inherited a bad situation; that's pretty much all I agree with.

In the "right direction" is pretty much subjective. We still can't seem to figure out how to get 11 players on the field.

As far as "Dooley was the only coach to take the job", again...that's bullcrap. No BIG name wanted the job, but you can't tell me several average mid-major coaches wouldn't have said yes. Dooley happened to be the one that said yes. It's not like the guy was a hot name or even on any major program's radar.

 

[uttcut]

Can anyone confirm that he has yet to win a game where he was the underdog? I remember this stat last year, but haven't heard anything about it so far this year. That was from his time at La Tech and UT...working on 6 years as a HC and still hasn't beaten a team when he was the underdog.

If true, that's the most telling stat I know of...

 

[Dr H Lecter]

We have won exactly one SEC game since the end of 2010. Sorry, hard for me to see the improvement. He has a chance to tie his best record at UT in the SEC-the 3-5 2010 Season.

 

[Cartervol]

I can't believe the secondary has gotten worse. The secondary coaches are unproven and it shows. Not that any other unit on the team is playing great. I am now in disbelief in the difference from NC St to Troy. Gotten worse

Secondary wouldn't be so bad if the front 7 wasn't equally as bad.. Pressure and getting off blocks would make that secondary look a lot better..

 

[HankHill]

Oh, but it didn't happen did it? See, I know exactly what I'm talking about. Dooley can thank Kiffin for Tyler Bray. The kid was already on campus when DD arrive. Dooley can thank Kiffin for Janzen Jackson. Without him we wouldn't have seen a bowl game in 2010. Don't sit there and act like Dooley took the Penn State job.

Lol thank janzen jackson???

Kiffins class has 3 players left from it. Why should he be praised again?

 

[Drivebye]

Here is the reality of the situation: OBama has performed poorly and is in over his head. He blames much of his troubles on Bush or the current Replublicans in the House or Senate. HE WILL BE RE ELECTED:::
He will lose the popular vote but will win the Electoral College.


Dooley has performed poorly and is in over his head. Blame is put on Kiffin, Fulmer and Hamilton for the reasons for Dooley's issues. HE WILL BE THE U.T. FOOTBALL COACH IN 2013. He will lose his teams support and most of the fans support but the Powers That Be will keep him in place.


Do y'all see the similiarities?????

Obama right! W screwed the Republican, if you want to blame someone blame W and his staff. You are right on Dooley. Hammy second choice was Al Golden third choice was Kevin Sumlin. Either would have been better .

 

[orangebloodgmc]

I can't believe the secondary has gotten worse. The secondary coaches are unproven and it shows. Not that any other unit on the team is playing great. I am now in disbelief in the difference from NC St to Troy. Gotten worse

Yes, this is what I can't understand. I know we lost Randolph and that hurt, but guys like Waggoner and Brewer have been MIA. Waggoner had zero tackles in the Bama game, and I think he has 1 int on the year. Moore was playing well and is still getting some tackles, but lately we are making few plays on breaking up any passes. Why are we having to go with a walk-on Toney? Where is Tino Thomas and Orta?

I don't want to beat up on Dan Gray too much; every new cornerback will make some mistakes, but there were a lot of em.

 

[carpbc]

The argument that Dooley inherited a mess, and that he has us going in the right direction went right out the window last night. They were never legit arguments in the first place, but now the proof is there for all to see. The team Dooley inherited would not have given up 48 points to Troy at home. Not even with Dooley coaching. We're not moving in the right direction. Fact is, we're nowhere close to competing in the SEC. We're less competitive than we were in Dooley's first season. We've become Hal Mumme's Kentucky teams. Score a ton of points with nothing to show for it.

The first question is, "Does Cheek and Hart realize the facts, or are they living in some dream world?"

And the second, "If Cheek and Hart do realize the facts, are they willing to man up and fire Dooley and company?"

 

[VolsSportsFan]

An interim coach for a whole offseason and year? That would've killed recruiting. No one would've commited to an interim coach

Ohio St. agrees.

 

[Fijivol72]

Lol you are so ignorant. We just appear to be in games???

You're right we didn't have the chance to win on a final drive vs uga,miss st, or sc. That was all just a dream.

Tennessee hasn't been in the national picture since 2002. This didn't happen over night. So keep trying with your stupid dooley jokes

Dooley is a career loser and no blind fan like yourself can change the facts. As your boy Dooley said you are what your record says it is.

 

[Wilhelm16]

Lol you are so ignorant. We just appear to be in games???

You're right we didn't have the chance to win on a final drive vs uga,miss st, or sc. That was all just a dream.

Tennessee hasn't been in the national picture since 2002. This didn't happen over night. So keep trying with your stupid dooley jokes

Point to something. ANYTHING that says we are more competitive. Almost winning games means nothing. Hal Mumme's Kentucky teams were in alot of games. Do you like going into every game knowing that the offense must score 40-50 pts just to have a chance to win?

NEWSFLASH: We used to beat UGA, MSU, and SC. Kiffin beat UGA and SC. This is the reality with Derek Dooley. He gets outcoached. He is terrible, and your defense of him is that we're not under investigation? That's not because he came in like Jesus into the temple throwing out the money changers, it's because the NCAA completed their investigation.

 

[photovol]

I don't have any problem with sticking with Dooley for next season but we have to clean house on the defensive side of the ball and get a DC and Assistants that can at least put a decent defense on the field. With an average defense we probably beat both SC and Georgia and are 6 and 3 right now.

Dooley's responsible, he's the HC...don't pass the buck
Dooley must go

 

[Wilhelm16]

To the OP, Dooley inherited a bad situation; that's pretty much all I agree with.

In the "right direction" is pretty much subjective. We still can't seem to figure out how to get 11 players on the field.

As far as "Dooley was the only coach to take the job", again...that's bullcrap. No BIG name wanted the job, but you can't tell me several average mid-major coaches wouldn't have said yes. Dooley happened to be the one that said yes. It's not like the guy was a hot name or even on any major program's radar.

I'm sorry. Did you even read the OP?