For those still on the fence

#51
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gftman said:
Sometimes,I wonder how many Walmart fans we have posting here on this board. My definition of a Walmart Fan=Their only connection to the program is they bought a Tshirt, Hat, Sweatshirt, etc at Walmart and think they are a "Blood runs Orange" Fan.

I once lived in Bamar with a secretary like this. She was always dishing out crap about how great Bamar was and how the Vols sucked. I asked her one day what year she graduated from Bamar? Her reply was "Oh, I never went to college!" I asked her how often did she go to games? Her reply was "Oh, I've never been to a game, "I just watch em on TV" To hear her tell it she could have been Bear's daughter she was so full of here Bamar self.

Yea, we've got problems, nobodys defending that. We've Lost 5 games to teams that have an average ranking of 8.8, so call it 9. We could have won a couple of those except for maybe a couple bad calls, bad plays, etc.

What would any coach, considering taking a job at Tennessee, think of the way we treat our coaches, painting rocks, etc? Wonder why they demand and get such lucrative buyouts. I say at least show some class if you earned your rights to be a Vol Fan, like went there, go to games, etc. If your a Walmart Vol, then that explains a lot on this board
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Look I get what you are saying, but I have been going to games since I was three years old. I graduated from MTSU, because I had no choice that is where I lived at the time and I had a wife and kids. I would have loved to go to UT. I plan on taking a few classes one day, so I can be an alum. The thing is we need all the fans we can get. Get off your high and mighty because you went to UT, I have a degree too and no it was not from UT, but I love Tennessee just as much as you and the fans that did not even go to college they love UT too. I do keep up with MTSU and used to go to their games before moving to NC, but trust me nobody is a band wagon fan now. I am a Vol fan first over any team (and it is not even close). They are all true fans, we lost those bandwagon fans a long time ago. Now Bama fans are much different, some of them are not from Bama and cheer for Bama. The way I look at it is, if you are from Tennessee you have a right to root for Tennessee even if you did not go to college at all or somewhere else, and heck I will take any other fans right now to. What I cannot stand is these punks from TN, cheering for Florida and Bama, they are not even from those states. Cheer for your home state. There I said it.
 
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#52
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Volinnooga said:
Now I am darn sure I ain't as smart as you but I don't believe any of them big words you used up there have anything to do with football. I may be wrong since I ain't a college boy (like you are I guess) but I think if'n one is going to give an opinion, it ought to based on something other than "Dooley blows". Its kinda hard to take your argument serious like when you support youself like that. But that's just me.

Or maybe you don't wanna be takin' seriously.

Oh yeah and your closing SMD shows who the little B***h is. Well said.
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I have a banner that reads "troll" on my avatar. That's your first clue as to how much I care about being taken seriously...

And by the way, I'm sticking with my original assessment of the HC. Dooley blows.
 
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gftman said:
Sometimes,I wonder how many Walmart fans we have posting here on this board. My definition of a Walmart Fan=Their only connection to the program is they bought a Teeshirt, Hat, Sweatshirt, etc at Walmart and think they are a "Blood runs Orange" Fan.

I once lived in Bamar with a secretary like this. She was always dishing out crap about how great Bamar was and how the Vols sucked. I asked her one day what year she graduated from Bamar? Her reply was "Oh, I never went to college!" I asked her how often did she go to games? Her reply was "Oh, I've never been to a game, "I just watch em on TV" To hear her tell it she could have been Bear's daughter she was so full of here Bamar self.
Yea, we've got problems, nobody's defending that. We've Lost 5 games to teams that have an average ranking of 8.8, so call it 9. We could have won a couple of those except for maybe a couple bad calls, bad plays, etc.

What would any coach, considering taking a job at Tennessee, think of the way we treat our coaches, painting rocks, etc? Wonder why they demand and get such lucrative buyouts. I say at least show some class if you earned your rights to be a Vol Fan, like went there, go to games, etc. If your a Walmart Vol, then that explains a lot on this board
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I lived in Lake Wales Florida for 7 years , But loved my home state Vols. I followed Them with a passion,yet I never got to see them play. I did buy the walmart t shirt/hat flag,stickers and anything else I could About UT. I purchased Pay-per views, magazines and any thing I could afford. I was heckled about the Vols for Years. My nick name was Tennessee. That was 20 years ago and I can promise you No One called me a Walmart Fan. We scheduled family gatherings around UT football . I bleed Orange as much as you if not more. You never know what path the guy beside you in the Orange shirt may have taken to be a Vol fan but to call him a Walmart fan makes me hate guys Like You and sickens me that anyone would feel like they are better than anyone else because they have had the privileges in life some have not.
 
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gftman said:
Sometimes,I wonder how many Walmart fans we have posting here on this board. My definition of a Walmart Fan=Their only connection to the program is they bought a Tshirt, Hat, Sweatshirt, etc at Walmart and think they are a "Blood runs Orange" Fan.

I once lived in Bamar with a secretary like this. She was always dishing out crap about how great Bamar was and how the Vols sucked. I asked her one day what year she graduated from Bamar? Her reply was "Oh, I never went to college!" I asked her how often did she go to games? Her reply was "Oh, I've never been to a game, "I just watch em on TV" To hear her tell it she could have been Bear's daughter she was so full of here Bamar self.

Yea, we've got problems, nobodys defending that. We've Lost 5 games to teams that have an average ranking of 8.8, so call it 9. We could have won a couple of those except for maybe a couple bad calls, bad plays, etc.

What would any coach, considering taking a job at Tennessee, think of the way we treat our coaches, painting rocks, etc? Wonder why they demand and get such lucrative buyouts. I say at least show some class if you earned your rights to be a Vol Fan, like went there, go to games, etc. If your a Walmart Vol, then that explains a lot on this board
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Nuttier than a Squirrel turd.
 
#56
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vols-1 said:
How many times has not firing a guy for the sake of stability worked out in the long run?
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How many schools would have 4 coaches in 6 years? Its a risk reward thing. I think Dooley is a defense away from having a good team. A lot easier to manage that than firing him and risking it all on probably another Tier 2 coach. Like I said, if there is a Gruden type committed, fine, but unless there is, it's not worth it right now.
 
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peyton4heisman said:
I have a banner that reads "troll" on my avatar. That's your first clue as to how much I care about being taken seriously...

And by the way, I'm sticking with my original assessment of the HC. Dooley blows.
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I just thought it somewhat funny that you ridicule someone who disagrees with you for his "critical thinking" and support it by stating that "Dooley blows".

And I don't think you have to worry about anyone taking you seriously.
 
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Volinnooga said:
Now I am darn sure I ain't as smart as you but I don't believe any of them big words you used up there have anything to do with football. I may be wrong since I ain't a college boy (like you are I guess) but I think if'n one is going to give an opinion, it ought to based on something other than "Dooley blows". Its kinda hard to take your argument serious like when you support youself like that. But that's just me.

Or maybe you don't wanna be takin' seriously.

Oh yeah and your closing SMD shows who the little B***h is. Well said.
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None of this conversation changes the fact that dooley still blows.
 
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#61
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Dooley blows, but some here blow Dooley. I can understand the Dooley blows feeling by looking at the body of work. i just can get the blow Dooley bunch tho.
 
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XIVolNinjaIX said:
How many schools would have 4 coaches in 6 years? Its a risk reward thing. I think Dooley is a defense away from having a good team. A lot easier to manage that than firing him and risking it all on probably another Tier 2 coach. Like I said, if there is a Gruden type committed, fine, but unless there is, it's not worth it right now.
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Why do you believe that stability at the HC position is so much more important than stability at the assistant coaching positions? UT has had far more instability amongst the assistant coaches in the last two offseasons than any other program I know. Since two were replaced before 2011 and all but 2 were replaced before this season, Dooley has basically turned over an entire assistant coaching staff after his first two years (and most of them moved laterally into the same position at other schools). Joseph leaving was particularly alarming, because he was one of Dooley's guys from La Tech. The HC should get credit and blame for staff turnover rates, and I have seen nothing that makes me think he won't lose another 2-5 coaches this offseason. Then next year, his excuses will be preloaded.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Consider the upcoming Vanderbilt/Kentucky game: After the game is over, either Joker Phillips (who Kentucky fans are about ready to execute) or James Franklin (who is only in his second season) will have more SEC wins than Derek Dooley.

Let that sink in.



Now if you've somehow convinced yourself that both coaches inherited much better situations, here's another one: Hugh Freeze has more SEC wins in his last two games than Derek Dooley has since 2010.
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But but He's got us heading in the right direction! :clapping:
 
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FlyFishnVol said:
I really don't see your point, none of those teams played the same schedule as UT. Now had they and they beat MSU, FLA, USC, UGA and UA......I would give your dribble a second thought.

Does posting these stupid comparison ever get old......it really does make you sound like an idiot.
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#66
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We're also at a level where we have to worry about actually losing to Vandy or Kentucky.. That in itself is enough to fire a coach.
 
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#67
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I'm a Dooley guy. I won't accept that our mess is his fault. Maybe I am too stubborn and dillusional.
 
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Cartervol said:
We're also at a level where we have to worry about actually losing to Vandy or Kentucky.. That in itself is enough to fire a coach.
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Or how about that Vandy's coach is even on anyone's list of coaches to replace Dooley.(keep in mind who's list it is but still)
 
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stephenk24 said:
I'm a Dooley guy. I won't accept that our mess is his fault. Maybe I am too stubborn and dillusional.
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Yes...You are mate, but its ok, We'll convert you soon enough and you shall see the light!....Damn I would kill for some yorkshire puddings right now :)
 
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anybody that supports dooley must be a democrat "it takes more than 4 years for dooley to rebuild the program after fulmer screwed us".."it takes more than 4 years for obama to fix what bush did" see the stupidity in these obviously similar arguments. too bad we cant vote dooley out and the same morons will vote obama back in.
 
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XIVolNinjaIX said:
How many schools would have 4 coaches in 6 years? Its a risk reward thing. I think Dooley is a defense away from having a good team. A lot easier to manage that than firing him and risking it all on probably another Tier 2 coach. Like I said, if there is a Gruden type committed, fine, but unless there is, it's not worth it right now.
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Bama...only they did it only 4 years - Dubose (2000), Franchione (2001 & 2002), Price (2002 1/2 - didn't coach but did manage to attend some strip clubs), and Shula (2003).
 
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peyton4heisman said:
I could explain to you the General Theory of Relativity if I took a notion to do so. If you would rather know about the Theory of Special Relativity, or even what the difference is between the two I could do that too. Perhaps you would like me to recite the quadratic formula or the Pythagorean Theory? I don't fully understand Quantum Mechanics, but I'd be willing to bet that I'm more versed on it than you. Perhaps History is your thing and you'd like to know how Copernicus concluded that our solar system is heliocentric (Earth is not the center of the solar system.)

The point is this:

I choose to type things like "Dooley blows" because I choose to, not because I am incapable of articulating my thoughts in a more intelligent manner. This is because I am not a know-it-all little b*** like you. And if you want to know about any of the aforementioned topics, go to college and get an education for yourself.

/rant

SMD nooga
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Oooh, sounds like someone is in for a round of "Double Jeopardy"?
U soo smart!!
 
#74
#74
Vandy is actually pretty good this year, for Vandy's standards that is.

I expect the Vandy game to be a good one.
 
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FlyFishnVol said:
I really don't see your point, none of those teams played the same schedule as UT. Now had they and they beat MSU, FLA, USC, UGA and UA......I would give your dribble a second thought.
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But, ummm, we haven't beaten any of those either....

LebanonVolunteer said:
Neither do we. We have a LB coach standing in as DC. I guess it kind of fits in with our lawyer standing in at HC.
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No, we have an OUTSIDE linebackers coach as DC. Bama didn't let him anywhere near the inside linebackers. You know you're too specialized when you have a coach just for the OLBs. And you know you're taking a flyer when you promote him to DC and give a guaranteed $2.4M contract.

Volinnooga said:
...I guess your argument means you'd perfer (sic) to have Joker or Franklin as the head coach of the Vols?...
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What a ridiculous assertion. Illustrating that our coach sucks as bad if not worse than those coaches is not even close to suggesting that we hire them.

stephenk24 said:
I'm a Dooley guy. I won't accept that our mess is his fault.
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Fault? Not entirely. But surely you will accept that it's his *responsibility*, though? He's being paid $2M per year to be responsible for it, regardless of who's at fault. The difference between fault and responsibility is very important when discussing coaching (and presidents).

XIVolNinjaIX said:
Our team has improved and rebuilding takes time. Our defense is attrocious. I think if we get that fixed, we will be fine.
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0-5, 0-5, 0-5. Improvements in certain statistics, when offset by larger decreases in other statistics, do not add up to an overall improvement. Certain parts of our team has improved, other parts have gone in the toilet. I assume you are calling for Sal's dismissal. There is no reason for anyone to believe that Sal's D will suddenly make huge strides forward next year.
 
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