Recruits talk about possibility of Gruden

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I actually think Dooley can get the job done here. That's all I'll say about that. One of the biggest assets being overlooked with the hire of Gruden is solidarity in our fan base. Our fan base has been divided for decades even during our top years. This hire would bring us all onto the same page. No more Fulmer/ Majors/ Kiffin/Dooley BS. What would there be to squabble about. Nothing, big name hire, let's go fill the stadium and start kicking ass with 5 star recruits coming in.
 
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Vol Karma said:
You are missing the point. Dooley has never won anything to have any goodwill in this situation.

Also depends on the 7-5. If Dooley went 7-5 with a win against Bama, UGA, or UF for example he would have some goodwill. Going 7-5 with wins against no one that good equals little to no goodwill.
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If we went 7-5 and had a good win then everyone would be zeroed in on the loses still. Why did we lose to X when we beat Y. We've lost to very good teams and if the defense was decent we might have won 2 or 3 of those we did lose. Dooley has done a good job but not a great one. Talent is up and off the field crap trouble is down, all we need are the wins. I get it.
 
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neostig said:
I actually think Dooley can get the job done here. That's all I'll say about that. One of the biggest assets being overlooked with the hire of Gruden is solidarity in our fan base. Our fan base has been divided for decades even during our top years. This hire would bring us all onto the same page. No more Fulmer/ Majors/ Kiffin/Dooley BS. What would there be to squabble about. Nothing, big name hire, let's go fill the stadium and start kicking ass with 5 star recruits coming in.
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Did not have time to finish. There are most definitely better coaches than others, better leaders, motivators etc, but let's be realistic. I laugh at all these references to genious etc for coaches. Most of us on VN if we studied the game day in and day out would be fairly prepared ourselves. I'm no Alfred Einstein but my point is bringing in the Jimmy n Joes is a big factor in the equation especially in Tn and in the SEC
 
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ACvol3 said:
All it would take is a couple of bad seasons for all that star power to rub off..
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Anyone who makes that kind of money will eventually be under a microscope if (Big if) they don't win. Gruden knows the score. He is a big boy and he wouldn't come here thinking otherwise.

So, if you knew right now, this minute, that Gruden would take the job, are you saying you wouldn't feel better about UT football?

I think there are other coaches who could also move in and do well. But Gruden is the one who would instantly redefine the current status of the program.
On the other hand, what program in the nation would get excited if Dooley became the head coach. Name one. Do you think he could get a job doing color on MNF? :)
Hey, if your gonna dream, dream big. The AD at Bama refused to take no for an answer and look at the results. Do you think it paid for itself? And then some. I think UT fans and admin need to shake off the Hamiltonitus that infected this program and demand the best. We don't need to make the mistakes Bama did to eventually get there.

Sure, maybe Dooley can turn it around, eventually. But why should we think that? When a guy decides to do a 180 on defensive scheme in the pivotal 3rd year of his tenure, I have to question his intelligence and forsight.
He has recruited OK. But honestly, who wouldn't considering the impressive facilities UT enjoys? With Dooley, it's like building a mansion with every amenity and then parking a Dodge Neon in the garage. Let's just say Dooley's resume doesn't fit the office. Gruden? Heck yes!
 
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Roustabout said:
Spare us.
Saban was a flop in the NFL, but his name holds powerful respect with recruits. He has a leg up on any other coach before he ever picks up the phone. When that letter arrives from Alabama it might as well say, "University of Saban," because that is exactly why these kids are lining up to play there.

Gruden has more pop star credentials than Saban could ever dream of. Plus the guy is a great football mind on top of that.
-Gruden would win because he will have cred before he ever mails the first letter. Kids will get all giddy when they see that UT on the return address, knowing that Gruden's signature is on the letter. When they hear that voice on the phone, it's the same one that does color on MNF, and sits at the table and breaks down film with Luck and Cam. If you can't see the appeal of that, then stick with Dooley, because you are completely delusional if you think that gomer has any such position.
Gruden will win because other coaches will crawl over one another to be on his staff. They know his infectious personality and love of the game.
Gruden will win because he loves football. He loves making players better.

Gruden would succeed because he did it working for one of the most interferring owners in the world, and still built a team into a super bowl contender.

And the best part is he isn't a snivling little pr*** like Saban. This is a guy who seems to have a genuine love for the game and the young men who play it. Not some narcissistic, condescending butt hole of man who treats people like garbage.

Gruden will endure himself to the fans because he would never see himself as bigger than the UT program. He would succeed for all the above reasons and then some. Only a blind person would deny it.
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Geeez louise, talk about a massive mancrush, LOL!

This is so full of hype and MISinformation I hardly know where to start, LOL.

Everyone has known for 2 decades that nobody had anything to say about what players Oakland got except for the old man until he died so Gruden did NOT build the Raiders AND it was pretty funny how FAST he let Gruden get out of town and away from the Raiders.

Gruden also did NOT build anything at Tampa Bay...He walked in and took over the team that TONY DUNGY took years to build and won the SB ring with the Tony Dungy team.

Funny that after that 1 good season Gruden led the Bucs consistently DOWN, DOWN, Down until the owner FIRED Gruden for being a total Failure.

As we all know Tony Dungy then went on to Indy and led them to a Superbowl win and he totally dominated the AFC South Division and had 1 of the winningest NFL programs of the times.

The thing that Gruden has proven best at is being a talking head on MNF or when talking to QB's while they're passing time and waiting to be drafted and all those young QB's love that because they get some TV time to get their names known better and they get PAID to be on Grudens little show...That's known as sports showbiz folks.

On MNF there's always people beside Gruden will all his little comment cards neatly typed up and watching plays to give Gruden the right cards at the right times...That's called Directing folks.

On the Gruden QB shows it's all laid out and pre-directed so that everything runs smoothly and then Gruden cal also use his teleprompter to read off of to lessen the mistakes and keep things flowing along....You know, the teleprompter like barak oDUMBa always uses so he won't stick his foot in his mouth like he always does when he doesn't have a teleprompter to read off of, LOL!

Watch the end of every MNF game and you'll always see the Directors and assistants listed just like you'll see after every Gruden QB show.

Yes people, football games ARE showbiz and they're all scripted and directed to make an enjoyable show for the fans so they keep on raking in the $$$.

If you see Gruden on MNFand he's wearing a orange and white tie...don't get excited because he's only supporting Peyton and the Broncos, LOL!

Please tell me Grudenites....WHERE has Gruden gotten all his college football experience as a HC, a OC, a DC or a RC and who were his biggest college recruits and how many conference or national championships has Gruden won?

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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alaVOL said:
If we went 7-5 and had a good win then everyone would be zeroed in on the loses still. Why did we lose to X when we beat Y. We've lost to very good teams and if the defense was decent we might have won 2 or 3 of those we did lose. Dooley has done a good job but not a great one. Talent is up and off the field crap trouble is down, all we need are the wins. I get it.
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I disagree. Yes some of the fans turned against him after the UK them (I was you arguing if favor of Dooley at that time). What turned me was another year of losing against any team that is considered good. 7-5 doesn't mean a lot when your best win is NC State.

Honestly nothing against Dooley. He just seems like he doesn't have what it takes to win in the SEC or even at La Tech.

Titan&Volfan4life said:
Yadda Yadda Yadda!
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Doesn't have to be Gruden. Give me Strong. I don't care. I could throw a rock and good chance I would hit a coach that would be better than Dooley. His record speaks for itself.
 
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Massive amount of overthink going on in this thread.

Dools = losing. A lot. Painful existence.

Gruden = winning. A lot. While having a fun doing it.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
Geeez louise, talk about a massive mancrush, LOL!

This is so full of hype and MISinformation I hardly know where to start, LOL.

Everyone has known for 2 decades that nobody had anything to say about what players Oakland got except for the old man until he died so Gruden did NOT build the Raiders AND it was pretty funny how FAST he let Gruden get out of town and away from the Raiders.

Gruden also did NOT build anything at Tampa Bay...He walked in and took over the team that TONY DUNGY took years to build and won the SB ring with the Tony Dungy team.

Funny that after that 1 good season Gruden led the Bucs consistently DOWN, DOWN, Down until the owner FIRED Gruden for being a total Failure.

As we all know Tony Dungy then went on to Indy and led them to a Superbowl win and he totally dominated the AFC South Division and had 1 of the winningest NFL programs of the times.

The thing that Gruden has proven best at is being a talking head on MNF or when talking to QB's while they're passing time and waiting to be drafted and all those young QB's love that because they get some TV time to get their names known better and they get PAID to be on Grudens little show...That's known as sports showbiz folks.

On MNF there's always people beside Gruden will all his little comment cards neatly typed up and watching plays to give Gruden the right cards at the right times...That's called Directing folks.

On the Gruden QB shows it's all laid out and pre-directed so that everything runs smoothly and then Gruden cal also use his teleprompter to read off of to lessen the mistakes and keep things flowing along....You know, the teleprompter like barak oDUMBa always uses so he won't stick his foot in his mouth like he always does when he doesn't have a teleprompter to read off of, LOL!

Watch the end of every MNF game and you'll always see the Directors and assistants listed just like you'll see after every Gruden QB show.

Yes people, football games ARE showbiz and they're all scripted and directed to make an enjoyable show for the fans so they keep on raking in the $$$.

If you see Gruden on MNFand he's wearing a orange and white tie...don't get excited because he's only supporting Peyton and the Broncos, LOL!

Please tell me Grudenites....WHERE has Gruden gotten all his college football experience as a HC, a OC, a DC or a RC and who were his biggest college recruits and how many conference or national championships has Gruden won?

VFL...GBO!!!
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If Gruden can have success in the NFL, he can do it in college.
 
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Tennman said:
How many years does Gruden get, before your bashing him calling for his head??? :popcorn:
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At least 3. He gets a year 0 right? Isn't that the norm now at Tennessee? Seeing he has proven he wins more than he loses, I say he gets 5 years total to have us in the top 15. With the talent he would bring in, I think he could sit by the pool eating a bag of kit kats and have us 9-3.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
Geeez louise, talk about a massive mancrush, LOL!

This is so full of hype and MISinformation I hardly know where to start, LOL.

Everyone has known for 2 decades that nobody had anything to say about what players Oakland got except for the old man until he died so Gruden did NOT build the Raiders AND it was pretty funny how FAST he let Gruden get out of town and away from the Raiders.

Gruden also did NOT build anything at Tampa Bay...He walked in and took over the team that TONY DUNGY took years to build and won the SB ring with the Tony Dungy team.

Funny that after that 1 good season Gruden led the Bucs consistently DOWN, DOWN, Down until the owner FIRED Gruden for being a total Failure.

As we all know Tony Dungy then went on to Indy and led them to a Superbowl win and he totally dominated the AFC South Division and had 1 of the winningest NFL programs of the times.

The thing that Gruden has proven best at is being a talking head on MNF or when talking to QB's while they're passing time and waiting to be drafted and all those young QB's love that because they get some TV time to get their names known better and they get PAID to be on Grudens little show...That's known as sports showbiz folks.

On MNF there's always people beside Gruden will all his little comment cards neatly typed up and watching plays to give Gruden the right cards at the right times...That's called Directing folks.

On the Gruden QB shows it's all laid out and pre-directed so that everything runs smoothly and then Gruden cal also use his teleprompter to read off of to lessen the mistakes and keep things flowing along....You know, the teleprompter like barak oDUMBa always uses so he won't stick his foot in his mouth like he always does when he doesn't have a teleprompter to read off of, LOL!

Watch the end of every MNF game and you'll always see the Directors and assistants listed just like you'll see after every Gruden QB show.

Yes people, football games ARE showbiz and they're all scripted and directed to make an enjoyable show for the fans so they keep on raking in the $$$.

If you see Gruden on MNFand he's wearing a orange and white tie...don't get excited because he's only supporting Peyton and the Broncos, LOL!

Please tell me Grudenites....WHERE has Gruden gotten all his college football experience as a HC, a OC, a DC or a RC and who were his biggest college recruits and how many conference or national championships has Gruden won?

VFL...GBO!!!
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answer one question? i keep asking it but no one ever answers. WHY DIDN'T DUNGY WIN THE SUPER BOWL IN TAMPA?

do you honestly think indy won because of dungy? you don't think he loaded his wagon on to mr manning and mr manning won it. you don't watch the games do you?
GBO VFL
 
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brianlsanders said:
If Gruden can have success in the NFL, he can do it in college.
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Really???

Show me even 1 tiny bit of PROOF of that my friend.

What college was Gruden a O coord for?

What college was Gruden a D coord for?

What college was Gruden the Recruiting Coord for?

What college won a National Championship or even a Conference Championship while Gruden was even an assistant coach there?

Fact is there is ZERO proof at all anywhere that says Gruden can become a good college coach especially in the SEC.

If AD Hart can hire him then I'll support him just like I've supported all Vols coaches and players for 50 years.

Ranting about how great a college coach he'll be when he was FIRED from his last coaching job is totally delusional IMO.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
What college won a National Championship or even a Conference Championship while Gruden was even an assistant coach there?
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Tampa Bay. Oh wait, that was just the NFL

Titan&Volfan4life said:
Fact is there is ZERO proof at all anywhere that says Gruden can become a good college coach especially in the SEC.
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that's only a fact if you believe the SEC is harder to win than the Super Bowl
 
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Vol Karma said:
I disagree. Yes some of the fans turned against him after the UK them (I was you arguing if favor of Dooley at that time). What turned me was another year of losing against any team that is considered good. 7-5 doesn't mean a lot when your best win is NC State.

Honestly nothing against Dooley. He just seems like he doesn't have what it takes to win in the SEC or even at La Tech.



Doesn't have to be Gruden. Give me Strong. I don't care. I could throw a rock and good chance I would hit a coach that would be better than Dooley. His record speaks for itself.
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
Really???

Show me even 1 tiny bit of PROOF of that my friend.

What college was Gruden a O coord for?

What college was Gruden a D coord for?

What college was Gruden the Recruiting Coord for?

What college won a National Championship or even a Conference Championship while Gruden was even an assistant coach there?

Fact is there is ZERO proof at all anywhere that says Gruden can become a good college coach especially in the SEC.

If AD Hart can hire him then I'll support him just like I've supported all Vols coaches and players for 50 years.

Ranting about how great a college coach he'll be when he was FIRED from his last coaching job is totally delusional IMO.

VFL...GBO!!!
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I didn't promise he would win big here. No one can predict the future. But If he can run a franchise in the NFL and win big there, then he can do it in the SEC. If he will or not is the question.
 
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Titan&Volfan4life said:
Really???

Show me even 1 tiny bit of PROOF of that my friend.

What college was Gruden a O coord for?

What college was Gruden a D coord for?

What college was Gruden the Recruiting Coord for?

What college won a National Championship or even a Conference Championship while Gruden was even an assistant coach there?

Fact is there is ZERO proof at all anywhere that says Gruden can become a good college coach especially in the SEC.

If AD Hart can hire him then I'll support him just like I've supported all Vols coaches and players for 50 years.

Ranting about how great a college coach he'll be when he was FIRED from his last coaching job is totally delusional IMO.

VFL...GBO!!!
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Superior athletes make it easier and as you can see from the article I posted, they will flock to Gruden.

btw, you do know he will have other coaches? It will not just be him?
 
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Top safeties talk Tennessee's troubles
October, 30, 2012
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Prospects can't help but hear the talk in Tennessee. When they hear Jon Gruden's name, they take notice.

"That would be great," safety Jalen Tabor from Washington (D.C.) Friendship said when asked of the possibility that Gruden could be hired to replace third-year coach Derek Dooley. "It would be a bonus."


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Jalen Tabor is among many prospects considering Tennessee, but recruits are wary if a coaching change comes about.
Tabor, a 2014 Watch List prospect, has said Tennessee is firmly in his top five, along with Alabama, Maryland, Ohio State and Florida.

Gruden's name continues to be a topic of conversation as the Volunteers struggle. Tennessee is 3-5 and 0-5 in the SEC. Dooley has received much of the scrutiny and criticism.

When asked how much a Gruden hiring might help recruiting, Tabor said "A lot."

Fellow ESPN Watch List defensive back Todd Kelly Jr. from Knoxville (Tenn.) Webb has heard much of the talk about a potential coaching change at Tennessee. He's also heard Gruden's name mentioned.

"Word is that he is the man to hire but that would be the fourth coach at UT I think in the last five years," Kelly Jr. said.

Tennessee fired Phillip Fulmer as head coach in 2008. He was replaced by Lane Kiffin, who left for USC following one season. Dooley was hired in January 2010.

When asked specifically about Gruden, Kelly Jr. said, "I really don't know how much about what he would bring to the university. If it did happen, though, then I think people would be fired up about the program again like any school would be with the hiring of a new coach."

Until then, uncertainty reigns with Tennessee football recruiting.
 
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Hmmm, seems recruits are not very excited about the current coaches. Imagine that. TK thinks a change would cause excitement amoung the fans and program. I guess he see's it as a lame duck currently, sorta like the coach.
 
#49
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Since UT hired a former Raiders' coach and ignored Al Davis to our chagrin,

Any quotes on Gruden from Al Davis? (From the past) although it is Halloween, maybe a current quote from his spirit today? :hi:
 
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Tennman said:
How many years does Gruden get, before your bashing him calling for his head??? :popcorn:
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Well dumba**. If Gruden were to come here or anywhere and loose to every ranked opponent. Start division playy 0-5 for three years straight and loose to an inferior team who hasn't previously won in thirty years. I would say three years would be enough. But if he does come here you will see a turnaround the very first year!
 
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