Official Jon Gruden Thread IV

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BearBryant said:
I have just been asking would you Gruden lovers accept his career if that's what he does at Tennessee.

He started with two .500 records. If he replaces Dooley how many years you going to give him?

If he has two .500 seasons at Tennessee you going to keep him?

His NFL coaching record is good, but not great.

In 11 seasons he has 3 losing years, 2 .500 years,

He has 1 Super Bowl Championship
4 other playoff teams. 2 of which lost in the first round.

My point is if you take out the 1 Super Bowl year, he has a so so record as a head coach.

So what basis do you have such confidence that this guy is a "homerun" hire. I don't see it. Spurrier and Saban were in my opinion.
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I'd give him as long as he wants. George Allen and George Halas are the only two coaches to go longer in their career before going two games below .500 in a season. Gruden went 89 before that happened and Dooley can't go five in any season.
 
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TOP said:
Not sure if serious.

You called people morons, said you were more educated and talked about the posters here, lacking teeth.

I'm not the one on the road risking people's lives to read comments on this forum. That would be you.

You may classify everyone as the same, but not me. You endanger others. That makes you a pretty big pos.
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Thanks. I'm called a POS from someone I have no idea who they are. Cool.

I apologized for the comments last night, btw. I was wrong in what was said, and I took responsibility for my actions. I am, however, convinced that you call people out and try to illustrate your intelligence through a message board with pithy comments, and semi-witty comebacks that are funny only to those that are at your level. Bravo, you are going to go far if far is defined as posting thousands of comments that are never productive, and certainly not courteous to others.

:hi:
 
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The question I have is how can they not make an announcement of some sort between now and UK..maybe they will....but the media around this will just get crazier and crazier?
 
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thebjd said:
I'd give him as long as he wants. George Allen and George Halas are the only two coaches to go longer in their career before going two games below .500 in a season. Gruden went 89 before that happened and Dooley can't go five in any season.
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George Allen and George Halas. Horrible coaches. I doubt they could have made it in college.
 
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will you ladies please stop B^##$*&% about texting and driving and let us know what your inside source says about Gruden coming to Kville?
 
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As a 24 year old male, I can tell you with 100% certainty if Jon Gruden walked into my living room there's no way in heck I wouldn't play for him. He's got a fire about him and a knowledge of the game that is immense.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
That seems to be the timeline. They don't want to deal with an interim.
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This will become the prevailing consensus until after KY, then we will know for sure. We got a month till then Im predicting it wil lbe annouced in Official Gruden Thread XVI.
 
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BearBryant said:
I have just been asking would you Gruden lovers accept his career if that's what he does at Tennessee.

He started with two .500 records. If he replaces Dooley how many years you going to give him?

If he has two .500 seasons at Tennessee you going to keep him?

His NFL coaching record is good, but not great.

In 11 seasons he has 3 losing years, 2 .500 years,

He has 1 Super Bowl Championship
4 other playoff teams. 2 of which lost in the first round.

My point is if you take out the 1 Super Bowl year, he has a so so record as a head coach.

So what basis do you have such confidence that this guy is a "homerun" hire. I don't see it. Spurrier and Saban were in my opinion.
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First, I'm not a Gruden lover. Second, I don't dislike Dooley, I'm not uber confident in him as a coach on the sidelines. With that out of the way...

Lane Kiffin was 5-15 (.250) when he was the HC w/ the Raiders. Obviously, he never made the play-offs. Gruden, with the Raiders went 40-28 (.594), made the playoffs twice. They were both, at the time of their hiring, the youngest coaches in the NFL. Both considered to be "genius" offensive minds.

Davis couldn't wait to get rid of Kiffin. Davis, on the other hand, demanded a lot from the Bucs to release Gruden from his contract. So much so, one might believe Gruden's demise with the Bucs was in part due to the price the Bucs paid. 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks, spread over three consecutive drafts. They also paid Davis $8 Million.

In that context, it's easy to understand why Gruden's first team went to the Superbowl and then declined. He took over a Dungy team that was not reaching it's potential, not meeting expectations, but the talent was there. After that, free agency, coupled with no draft picks, and lack of money to replace free agents...well.

As for Saban, he couldn't hack the NFL, same with Spurrier. Both of them had done well in college and wanted to test themselves in the pros.

I don't know how Gruden will do in College if he decides to go that route, but I know this...Saban isn't coming here, Spurrier isn't coming here and if you look at the top 25 right now, you gotta go down the list to around 10 and below for Strong, Peterson, Holgorsen etc...Doubt we could get Peterson, Holgorsen, Patterson...take your pick...Strong or Gruden...Tuberville or Gruden...Dooley or Gruden?
 
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Can't wait for The UF, UG's and USCjr.'s to start bit#hing about all the recruits we are stealing from them..HAHAHAHA!
 
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SCvol333 said:
will you ladies please stop B^##$*&% about texting and driving and let us know what your inside source says about Gruden coming to Kville?
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Apparently we have some people who have really dealt with some serious car wrecks cause they gave me serious hell last night for it.
 
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vol66 said:
First, I'm not a Gruden lover. Second, I don't dislike Dooley, I'm not uber confident in him as a coach on the sidelines. With that out of the way...

Lane Kiffin was was 5-15 (.250) when he was the HC w/ the Raiders. Obviously, he never made the play-offs. Gruden, with the Raiders went 40-28 (.594), made the playoffs twice. They were both, at the time of their hiring, the youngest coaches in the NFL. Both considered to be "genius" offensive minds.

Davis couldn't wait to get rid of Kiffin. Davis, on the other hand, demanded a lot from the Bucs to release Gruden from his contract. So much so, one might believe Gruden's demise with the Bucs was in part due to the price the Bucs paid. 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks, spread over three consecutive drafts. They also paid Davis $8 Million.

In that context, it's easy to understand why Gruden's first team went to the Superbowl and then declined. He took over a Dungy team that was not reaching it's potential, not meeting expectations, but the talent was there. After that, free agency, coupled with no draft picks, and lack of money to replace free agents...well.

As for Saban, he couldn't hack the NFL, same with Spurrier. Both of them had done well in college and wanted to test themselves in the pros.

I don't know how Gruden will do in College if he decides to go that route, but I know this...Saban isn't coming here, Spurrier isn't coming here and if you look at the top 25 right now, you gotta go down the list to around 10 and below for Strong, Peterson, Holgorsen etc...Doubt we could get Peterson, Holgorsen, Patterson...take your pick...Stong or Gruden...Tuberville or Gruden...Dooley or Gruden?
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This should be stickied and pointed to as an answer each time someone new comes into the thread making the same "points" about Gruden's NFL career. Would save us all a lot of time.
 
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mrorange211 said:
Apparently we have some people who have really dealt with some serious car wrecks cause they gave me serious hell last night for it.
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then tell them to go on Oprah - its a football forum

or tell them to go to the offtopic forum and rant there
 
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