Official Jon Gruden Thread IV

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BearBryant said:
I have just been asking would you Gruden lovers accept his career if that's what he does at Tennessee.

He started with two .500 records. If he replaces Dooley how many years you going to give him?

If he has two .500 seasons at Tennessee you going to keep him?

His NFL coaching record is good, but not great.

In 11 seasons he has 3 losing years, 2 .500 years,

He has 1 Super Bowl Championship
4 other playoff teams. 2 of which lost in the first round.

My point is if you take out the 1 Super Bowl year, he has a so so record as a head coach.

So what basis do you have such confidence that this guy is a "homerun" hire. I don't see it. Spurrier and Saban were in my opinion.
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It's the NFL. Not hard to comprehend. Saban, Carroll and Spurrier all have losing seasons too. Saban and Carroll also have national championships.

Let me clue you in on something...

NFL coaches are better than college coaches.

More importantly, NFL has a salary cap and GM's. College has a scholarship limit but you can sign all of the talent in the world. You can only pay so much talent before you're over the cap. Saban and Carroll weren't successful in the NFL because they were relying on someone to get them talent and staying under the cap. In college, you're free to have all the talent you want if you can reel it in.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm speaking of my irritation that you are posting this after each of his comments. Since this is a rumors forum, we infer opinion and rumor. To force everyone to state that it is an opinion is duplicative and clogs the board.

If you want to stalk him, please get his email address.

Thank you.

:hi:
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No thank you.:hi:
 
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We interupt this show for a brief message. I just read that dooley suspended omari phillips indefinitely. Anyone know why. Now back to the regular scheduled gruden program.
 
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TOP said:
It's the NFL. Not hard to comprehend. Saban, Carroll and Spurrier all have losing seasons too. Saban and Carroll also have national championships.

Let me clue you in on something...

NFL coaches are better than college coaches.

More importantly, NFL has a salary cap and GM's. College has a scholarship limit but you can sign all of the talent in the world. You can only pay so much talent before you're over the cap. Saban and Carroll weren't successful in the NFL because they were relying on someone to get them talent and staying under the cap. In college, you're free to have all the talent you want if you can reel it in.
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Good post and also was going to remind you that Spurrier won the NC in 1995 with Florida...
 
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daj2576 said:
The idea of it having "nothing to do with money" would be an interesting debate for another day. I will agree that I didn't state my position very clearly, but these situations are always about money. In this case we are discussing the difference between saving it on the front end, or charging for it on the back end. If there is no benefit financially to running your own site (Shelby, Rutherford, Davidson, Knox) then why spend the resources to create your own site that links from the TN Property Assessor's webpage? It is, in fact, about money. Also, very few people use the Property Assessor's data without also using the associated data from the register of deeds office. Anyway, this is a conversation for another day on another forum.
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Well, yea, I was probably loose with saying "nothing to do with money." I just know that I can access the assessor and register sites quickly and don't get charged with anything on the site. Now, I am not a real estate attorney and don't need it very often. I assumed the state let the populated counties have their own because of the higher number of properties and thus, data, associated with that county. You are right though, a discussion for a different day.
 
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crystals-man said:
We interupt this show for a brief message. I just read that dooley suspended omari phillips indefinitely. Anyone know why. Now back to the regular scheduled gruden program.
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Isnt the player that Tom talked about going to grandma's funeral this morning is it?
 
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BearBryant said:
I have just been asking would you Gruden lovers accept his career if that's what he does at Tennessee.

He started with two .500 records. If he replaces Dooley how many years you going to give him?

If he has two .500 seasons at Tennessee you going to keep him?

His NFL coaching record is good, but not great.

In 11 seasons he has 3 losing years, 2 .500 years,

He has 1 Super Bowl Championship
4 other playoff teams. 2 of which lost in the first round.

My point is if you take out the 1 Super Bowl year, he has a so so record as a head coach.

So what basis do you have such confidence that this guy is a "homerun" hire. I don't see it. Spurrier and Saban were in my opinion.
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If he brings UT even one National Championship, he is a home run hire. Whatever his other seasons are will be judged with the whole in regards to future retention. But that one Championship will be as much as any other coach has done at UT since the General. As such, totally worth it.

I don't know that it will happen, but that was what your hypothetical question was asking, and that's my answer.
 
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Int'lVOLofMystery said:
I keep on posting these after your comments, with no response. Is this your opinion? Because you are stating it as fact.

If it is anything more than your opinion, please let us know. People on here have spoken of their irritation at your posting style, but I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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If you are looking for facts, might I suggest a library.
 
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crystals-man said:
We interupt this show for a brief message. I just read that dooley suspended omari phillips indefinitely. Anyone know why. Now back to the regular scheduled gruden program.
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Is this the guy a caller to TB was talking about. Said he went to his grandmothers funeral and CDD punished him.
Kid said he told the coaches but they didn't remember it. Not sure if this is true, just something I heard. Negagrudes.....I have no links or sources.
 
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Thought this was pretty funny...
Keeping Dooley because you can't get Gruden is like asking Michael Myers to stab you more because help isn't coming.
:)
 
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volfan4evr said:
Is this the guy a caller to TB was talking about. Said he went to his grandmothers funeral and CDD punished him.
Kid said he told the coaches but they didn't remember it. Not sure if this is true, just something I heard. Negagrudes.....I have no links or sources.
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That caller to TB's show was Big Will who has given out info before that was accurate. He was the first person to say Cam Clear was a problem. Basilio confirmed what he said and was crucified by some for it.
 
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