What is hart waiting for?

#76
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oregonvol said:
Unfortunately, it won't go down much at all for 2-3 more years. Do you have any idea how much money will be lost from ticket sales/donations in that time?
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He's not going anywhere, so like everyone else said, either pony up the 6-9 mil, get used to it, or stop watching. Pretty simple actually.
 
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Hopefully Hart's just getting his ducks in a row.

If he retains Dooley, he better be ready for a drastic decline in revenues next season.
 
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oregonvol said:
With no press conference scheduled, it doesn't look like Dooley's firing will be announced today.

What is Hart waiting for?

Plenty of sources suggest that Hart will let Dooley go at the end of the season, but I don't see the advantage in keeping it under wraps. Certainly, as a public institution, UT is very limited in its ability to find and hire a new coach until they take the firing and search public.

Waiting until the end of the season seems foolish. There really isn't anything to gain. There isn't a notable opponent left. There certainly aren't any streaks to keep alive. Our recruiting class is hardly stellar and would probably be better to disrupt and reorganize now than in December.

All waiting accomplishes is uncertainty for the staff and players, limited ability to negotiate with replacements, further diviseness amongst fans, more empty seats, and an ever shortening window of time to make a change.

Is Hart just being timid? Obviously, he hasn't had to fire a head football coach on this level before. Is he in over his head here?
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have you thought...maybe...just maybe.....your coach for 2013 is Dooley........with a potent offense...best line in college football...unfinished business on defensive side of ball.....
 
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oregonvol said:
With no press conference scheduled, it doesn't look like Dooley's firing will be announced today.

What is Hart waiting for?
Plenty of sources suggest that Hart will let Dooley go at the end of the season, but I don't see the advantage in keeping it under wraps. Certainly, as a public institution, UT is very limited in its ability to find and hire a new coach until they take the firing and search public.

Waiting until the end of the season seems foolish. There really isn't anything to gain. There isn't a notable opponent left. There certainly aren't any streaks to keep alive. Our recruiting class is hardly stellar and would probably be better to disrupt and reorganize now than in December.

All waiting accomplishes is uncertainty for the staff and players, limited ability to negotiate with replacements, further diviseness amongst fans, more empty seats, and an ever shortening window of time to make a change.

Is Hart just being timid? Obviously, he hasn't had to fire a head football coach on this level before. Is he in over his head here?
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Just got off the cell phone with Hart.....only one item remains and he will spring into action.....

1) The cash, for the CDD buyout and hiring of Chucky (no checks), from the Grudenites.
 
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NEVolFan said:
Just got off the cell phone with Hart.....only one item remains and he will spring into action.....

1) The cash, for the CDD buyout and hiring of Chucky (no checks), from the Grudenites.
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NE, you under water up there?
 
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i don't know how anyone could be happy about retaining Dooley, hes started conference play 0-5 back to back years come on! A program with great tradition and where going to allow this guy to coach us still unbelievable. We have been bottom dwellers in the SEC for 3 straight years. is this going to be the new UT? Are we just going to settle
 
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VAVolsFan2009 said:
The next coach will be a "big" name and the commitment list will grow in quality. I would not be surprised if there were several significant "flips". Some recruits may get recruited over. The $$$'s will spend whatever is needed to get their man.
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just like when one of the "big donors" ask Gruden 3 years ago if he was interested in coaching Tn...his answer was "for 5 million dollars"....big donor hung up.....
 
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oregonvol said:
If they were smart business people, they wouldn't have hired Dooley in the first place. Look at what that is costing UT.

I don't get this whole "another wrong hire sets us back ____ years" argument. Dooley is the original wrong hire. The longer he stays, the further we're set back. Sure, you don't want to make the same mistake again, but there are hundreds of coaches out there more qualified than Dooley. Have some guts and move on.
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We have been down this road twice in the last few years. We fire Fulmer, and after going after the 'big name' coach, we end up with Kiffin.

Kiffin leaves, we offer several coaches the job, and after they all turn us down, we hire Dooley.

This job is a lot more attractive now (no NCAA infractions, more talent, not following a legend, etc.), but if we go after big name coaches, and they turn us down, we will be rolling the dice and hoping for the best -- no thanks!

Give me a big name coach, a proven winner, or let Dooley finish what he started. I think Dooley is over his head and learning on the job, but he is hard working, and a man of integrity, and with time, he might be okay.

His record is atrocious, but there are areas of improvement -- OL is much better, running game much better, we can field most punts, more talent across the board, but especially on O. That said, worst D I have ever seen, D looks lost and doesn't seem to know their assignments, still can't kick, still can't finish games, etc.
 
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Not saying its credible as there are many rumors flying. I was told by someone that's brother is in athletic dept. And he said Gruden has been offered 8 year $51 million. Before you attack like I said I don't know how credible. But he sure was convinced
 
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volmonster12 said:
i don't know how anyone could be happy about retaining Dooley, hes started conference play 0-5 back to back years come on! A program with great tradition and where going to allow this guy to coach us still unbelievable. We have been bottom dwellers in the SEC for 3 straight years. is this going to be the new UT? Are we just going to settle
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We will officially hit bottom after the Vandy game IMO
 
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TNGlen said:
NE, you under water up there?
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Not an issue for us with water....but lost power yesterday and unclear when it will be back on, the high winds have taken down 2 large trees in the yard...this was prior to the storm making landfall. Where we live trees and powerlines coexist, until there is a light gust of wind, taking out a transformer and creating a mess.

I'm in Korea now....wife is pizzed at me because each major weather event for the past 3 years (blizzards, hurricanes) has happened when I am out of town. Can't blame her.
 
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volpreacher said:
Not saying its credible as there are many rumors flying. I was told by someone that's brother is in athletic dept. And he said Gruden has been offered 8 year $51 million. Before you attack like I said I don't know how credible. But he sure was convinced
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That's a lot of cash for a lot of years. I would be leary of that info preacherman. JMO
 
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oregonvol said:
With no press conference scheduled, it doesn't look like Dooley's firing will be announced today.

What is Hart waiting for?

Plenty of sources suggest that Hart will let Dooley go at the end of the season, but I don't see the advantage in keeping it under wraps. Certainly, as a public institution, UT is very limited in its ability to find and hire a new coach until they take the firing and search public.



Waiting until the end of the season seems foolish. There really isn't anything to gain. There isn't a notable opponent left. There certainly aren't any streaks to keep alive. Our recruiting class is hardly stellar and would probably be better to disrupt and reorganize now than in December.

All waiting accomplishes is uncertainty for the staff and players, limited ability to negotiate with replacements, further diviseness amongst fans, more empty seats, and an ever shortening window of time to make a change.

Is Hart just being timid? Obviously, he hasn't had to fire a head football coach on this level before. Is he in over his head here?
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He is the AD and knows better than you on what is best for Tennessee. He is not an emotional glutton:).
 
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slickstirs said:
have you thought...maybe...just maybe.....your coach for 2013 is Dooley........with a potent offense...best line in college football...unfinished business on defensive side of ball.....
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Where is the potent offense going to come from? Hunter is leaving. he is project number 1 wide receiver. CP will probably go if his draft status is high enough.
 
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Spawn said:
Where is the potent offense going to come from? Hunter is leaving. he is project number 1 wide receiver. CP will probably go if his draft status is high enough.
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This is WR University...that's what everybody has said the last 2 years....some of the recruits will step up when needed...that is why you take the time to build a foundation for this football team...so you have depth.....
 
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volpreacher said:
I agree. It is a lot of money and like I said, not sure how credible it is. But this guy also told me Haslem was pretty much footing the bill.
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Not doubting you in the least but you received the information third hand. The first guy in that chain could have got his info here. Plus, that's the largest numbers I've seen speculated yet.

Do I believe Gruden could be successful here? Oh yeah.

Do I think he's coming? Not a clue.

IMO, this entire fanbase is in wait & see mode. We won't know anything concrete until we see the press conference.
 
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Dooley will be here next year.....reasons Money for fires and hires, no one available that wants the job. The Sal hire knew it would take two years to install defense. The hires of other coaches, affects on defections and recruiting. The mess Dooley inherited. 4 years to fix and a coaching change at present will look weak and desperate. Let the year play out so it may happen but will be at seasons end. Fans don't matter at this point. The stadium will always be filled just maybe more non regular attendees or opponents fans.

So continue to whine bicker throwing tantrums and act like emotional HS girls.
Just built a facility on campus that some would disagree with but it was needed and warranted. We need to find a coach that can coach in the sec that is competitive and that wants to be here not for the buck but because his heart is in it.

There are a lot of good coaches out there that are motivators leaders and know how manage x & o's on the field. We will get there but it will take time. Sec coaching is tough right now who is available to come here that is of that caliber. A lot of the gruden stuff is emotional and speculation because that's all it can be until the decision is made and gruden is contacted. But if he turns us down that will continue the slippery slope of coaching hires,
 
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#97
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The only ones throwing tantrums here are the Doolaiders. Come to think of it, they also kind of remind me of high school girls with crushes.
 
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Most Dooley lovers are hiding... The ones that are around are the ones that know he will still be here 70% chance he will because it is reality of the entire situation. Hires and fires. Not good. See how he finishes out the season. It is pick your poison type issue. Turmoil is never good.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Most Dooley lovers are hiding... The ones that are around are the ones that know he will still be here 70% chance he will because it is reality of the entire situation. Hires and fires. Not good. See how he finishes out the season. It is pick your poison type issue. Turmoil is never good.
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What's your opinion about when Dooley will endorse Dooley for 2013? Seems like he would go ahead and make a statement of support for his coach.
 
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