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#51
#51
Yes. Dooley is leaving guys on the bench who should be playing. :eek:lol: . Great talent is HARD to hide. Block somebody. Tackle someone. Catch the ball. Cover your man. Fight off of a block every now and again. Who exactly is being wasted by the coaching staff again?

So what you're saying is that Dooley hasn't recruited many quality players? Agreed.
 
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#52
#52
Oh yes it does, beating a team your school hasn't beat in nearly 30 yrs with a Wr as your Qb is a Upset regardless of Tennessee not being ranked! Stay off that ish in ur avatar brah..

Ok guy. So Joker Phillips has his "signature" win (over a team with a losing record noless). Has Dooley beaten Joker Phillips yet? Is that a "signature" win for Dooley. The spin on this one may turn into a tornado. Take cover!
 
#53
#53
UT has been 1, 6, 7, 8 and 15 in the past and now we are justifying losing to them... How sad that we accept mediocrity... we will have excuses every year... New coaches, injuries, lack of depth etc... but good coaches find a way to win... atleast luck out like kentucky... DD doesnt have that luck either :mad:
 
#54
#54
Defense has Improved Under Dooley!

2011 = Sacks Rank =105 / pass Deflections Rank= 120 / penaltys Rank=78
2012 = sacks Rank =100 / pass Deflections Rank = 119 / penaltys Rank = 77



It's a fact Our Defense is Better lmao
 
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#55
#55
UT has been 1, 6, 7, 8 and 15 in the past and now we are justifying losing to them... How sad that we accept mediocrity... we will have excuses every year... New coaches, injuries, lack of depth etc... but good coaches find a way to win... atleast luck out like kentucky... DD doesnt have that luck either :mad:

There is a difference in accepting mediocrity and recognizing that achievement is a process rather than an event.
 
#56
#56
There is a difference in accepting mediocrity and recognizing that achievement is a process rather than an event.
So are You excited about the progress This team Has made from Year one until Now? If so Tell us what Progress On the Field You have witnessed other than a older mature O-line.
 
#57
#57
So what you're saying is that Dooley hasn't recruited many quality players? Agreed.
Not enough. Bama and Georgia were pulling top classes the past 4 years. Florida and LSU too. Dooley does not have 4 classes yet. He is (or the next coach) going to have to beat those schools out for some of the top guys. If we blow up our program AGAIN (3rd time in 5 years), then it better be for a PROVEN recruiter and winner. If not, why bother with another Dooley? We can keep the one we have.
 
#58
#58
The Vols 5 losses are to teams currently rank #'s 1,6,7,8, and 15 in the latest BCS poll. Alabama(1) and Florida(7) were home losses, the other 3 were road losses.

Not sure if I really should have expected a team that did not go to a bowl last season, be able to beat those teams this season....:popcorn:

The only comparison I have in my memory is the 1989, & 2006 Vols and yes they did beat good teams. But forgive me, I have very little experience with teams that don't make bowl games. Maybe a Vanderbilt fan could shed light on your op.
 
#59
#59
So are You excited about the progress This team Has made from Year one until Now? If so Tell us what Progress On the Field You have witnessed other than a older mature O-line.

Excited? No. But not blinded by hatred or discontent either.

Progress? The offensive line controlled the vaunted gamecock pass rush very well until the last offensive play. The offense has looked solid with the exception of some super-hyped playmakers that haven't made plays. The run game has shown dramatic improvement. Patterson is a stud. Young has looked far better than anyone predicted. Richardson and McCullers are getting it done on the DL. Even Palardy has moved up several notches. The linebackers are learning to play in a 3-4. The defensive backs are slow but the recruiting trail shows a lot of promise. DB and WR are both positions that lend themselves to immediate help from freshmen.

Optimist sees the glass as half full.
Pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
Realist recognizes the size of the glass and volume of fluid available.
 
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#60
#60
Not enough. Bama and Georgia were pulling top classes the past 4 years. Florida and LSU too. Dooley does not have 4 classes yet. He is (or the next coach) going to have to beat those schools out for some of the top guys. If we blow up our program AGAIN (3rd time in 5 years), then it better be for a PROVEN recruiter and winner. If not, why bother with another Dooley? We can keep the one we have.
Take away AJ, CP, and tell us who we have Dooley has Brought in that Blows you away? O-line? They are Not all Dooley's recruits, Bray? He's not a Dooley recruit . Most of our Sophomore players he saved from leaving during the switch but he didn't recruit those guys into Tennessee. His Recruiting is Way behind in the SEC. You get a stud he's a stud from Day 1. You get a Average player he will improve with strength and knowledge but he still will not be a Stud that can contribute for 4 years. I have watched so many freshman look like all pro's against us all season. Dooley's staff can not develop these guys...it's a proven!
 
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#61
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Not enough. Bama and Georgia were pulling top classes the past 4 years. Florida and LSU too. Dooley does not have 4 classes yet. He is (or the next coach) going to have to beat those schools out for some of the top guys. If we blow up our program AGAIN (3rd time in 5 years), then it better be for a PROVEN recruiter and winner. If not, why bother with another Dooley? We can keep the one we have.

completly agree. If we are not going to hire an immediate impact coach, ( Big name hire ), then save our money and stick with the dools that we have.

I do think that its funny though that our boy Dave is doing with Duke, tell me again that you can't coach without great players, Yes i'm aware the ACC is not the SEC, but the fact remains that its apples to apples, he is able, with a very crappy team to get more out of his guys and plan better schemes, packages etc... to get the job done.

I would take Cutcliff over dools everyday of the week by the way.... just sayin.
 
#62
#62
Take away AJ, CP, and tell us who we have Dooley has Brought in that Blows you away? O-line? They are Not all Dooley's recruits, Bray? He's not a Dooley recruit . Most of our Sophomore players he saved from leaving during the switch but he didn't recruit those guys into Tennessee. His Recruiting is Way behind in the SEC. You get a stud he's a stud from Day 1. You get a Average player he will improve with strength and knowledge but he still will not be a Stud that can contribute for 4 years. I have watched so many freshman look like all pro's against us all season. Dooley's staff can not develop these guys...it's a proven!
"It's a proven" what? Dooley's recruits are still underclassmen. Should they be pro ready already? Get real. You can not talk football with non football people. Stupid to to even try. Accept my apologies.
 
#63
#63
"It's a proven" what? Dooley's recruits are still underclassmen. Should they be pro ready already? Get real. You can not talk football with non football people. Stupid to to even try. Accept my apologies.
Excuse me but if you see improvement tell all of us non football guys where it's at? Because unlike you we do see what product is put on the field!
 
#64
#64
completly agree. If we are not going to hire an immediate impact coach, ( Big name hire ), then save our money and stick with the dools that we have.

I do think that its funny though that our boy Dave is doing with Duke, tell me again that you can't coach without great players, Yes i'm aware the ACC is not the SEC, but the fact remains that its apples to apples, he is able, with a very crappy team to get more out of his guys and plan better schemes, packages etc... to get the job done.

I would take Cutcliff over dools everyday of the week by the way.... just sayin.
FSU has clearly out-recruited Duke. Did you catch the score this past week by any chance? Old Cut had his team ready to play didn't he?
Edit :: 48-7. Yes we could use Cut today. Fire Dooley.
 
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#65
#65
FSU has clearly out-recruited Duke. Did you catch the score this past week by any chance? Old Cut had his team ready to play didn't he.
Tennessee has out recruited MSU... whats your point ole football god!









and Kentucky for years!
 
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#66
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Dooley is scrambling. Just now playing guys like Bonner. Were the starters really fighting for a spot early this year? Doesn't sound like it.
Fulmer made a career ending hire in Clawson. It looked good on paper, but was an epic fail. Dooley appears to have done the same with Sunseri.
I think you can understand the hardships and bad luck Dooley has inherited and still be for a change. Considering how many coaches left last year, this team essentially went through another staff change.
-We all should have known that changing 7 coaches in the offseason wasn't a good thing. You trade last years D for this years and Dooley is 5-3 instead of 3-5 and about to go on a four game win streak. On one hand, the offensive hires have really paid off. The D hires have been a huge setback.
So sure, a few things break different and Dooley has this team on the rise. But the other thing that is obvious is that Dooley created a culture where coaches where walking over each other to get the heck out of here. He was not ready for a job of this magnitude. He is not a program builder. Do you think La Tech misses the guy?
 
#67
#67
What evidence do we have to the contrary?

How can anyone fail to see the tremendous improvements in the team? True that there are too many busts and fails. But this is the best Tennessee team we've seen on the field in years...many years.
 
#68
#68
Dooley is scrambling. Just now playing guys like Bonner. Were the starters really fighting for a spot early this year? Doesn't sound like it.
Fulmer made a career ending hire in Clawson. It looked good on paper, but was an epic fail. Dooley appears to have done the same with Sunseri.
I think you can understand the hardships and bad luck Dooley has inherited and still be for a change. Considering how many coaches left last year, this team essentially went through another staff change.
-We all should have known that changing 7 coaches in the offseason wasn't a good thing. You trade last years D for this years and Dooley is 5-3 instead of 3-5 and about to go on a four game win streak. On one hand, the offensive hires have really paid off. The D hires have been a huge setback.
So sure, a few things break different and Dooley has this team on the rise. But the other thing that is obvious is that Dooley created a culture where coaches where walking over each other to get the heck out of here. He was not ready for a job of this magnitude. He is not a program builder. Do you think La Tech misses the guy?
Great Post ... La Tech I'm sure will be sending him a Offer :)
 
#69
#69
If better is there then get it. Go after Bellichek. Green Bays head coach. A proven winner would be great. Hard to argue that.
 
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#70
How can anyone fail to see the tremendous improvements in the team? True that there are too many busts and fails. But this is the best Tennessee team we've seen on the field in years...many years.
lol It is no wonder 13 guys Voted they would be OK to keep Dooley if we lost to Kentucky again this season... geeeez unbelievable!
 
#72
#72
I don't blame this team or Dooley for the losses to UGA, UF, or Bama. Those who were crying for change after UF were just being emotional.

But MSU and USC were both games that UT should have won.

I've posted this before, but it can't be stressed enough.

In Saban's book, he claims that a coach's primary responsibility is to 'maximize the potential of each player'. Call this team what you want, but the MSU and USC games screamed 'underachieving' to me, especially on defense.
 
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#74
#74
I don't blame this team or Dooley for the losses to UGA, UF, or Bama. Those who were crying for change after UF were just being emotional.

But MSU and USC were both games that UT should have won.

I've posted this before, but it can't be stressed enough.

In Saban's book, he claims that a coach's primary responsibility is to 'maximize the potential of each player'. Call this team what you want, but the MSU and USC games screamed 'underachieving' to me, especially on defense.

Both games had specific player errors that caused the loss. Fairly safe bet that they were NOT coached to make those mistakes. A winning program is built from the ground up. Not screamed for by ijit fans and somehow wished into existence. See Auburn University. Quick fix, but no foundation.
 
#75
#75
Whatever dude.
I'm right there with you bud...some times I'm wrong too lol Joke. I just would like to see some progress just Like you . I love some things Dooley has done for UT. But coaching players up and developing them I just for the life of me don't see. He's a A+ guy and great face for the university. I just wish he would get more out of this team than 6-6 / 7-5 . I can live with every lose but MSU/SC . I can't for the Life of me Live with allowing our Defense TO give up 38+ points to every SEC team . Never in UT history has this been Done.
 
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