Chaney scoring points, but...

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#52
Cartervol said:
Yeah they've left some points on the field.. Made bad decisions at times also.. This defense is just about forcing them to play a perfect game though.. That just doesn't happen often, if at all..
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This dude has got it spot on. The offense IS going to make mistakes, but the defense has got to step up and do SOMETHING. If the we had a defense we would have blowed uscjr out.
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#56
#56
pa136761 said:
I would like for you to go back and read all of your posts out loud to yourself and see if you truly believe the things that you are saying.
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pimo1 said:
what are you smoking? top to bottom the SEC for the past 5 or 6 years is the strongest it has ever been. Saying a team that was ranked as high as number 2 a couple days ago is the weakest in years..stop smoking dude.
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You see, I actually watched all those teams through the 80s and 90s. I actually remember them - I didn't hear about them second hand or read them in a book.

Since Tebow graduated, the SECE is the weakest it has ever been since the conference split. This is not the weakest year in that stretch, but it is close.

It is the worst Florida team of a generation; worst offense they've had since the early 80s (but Muschamp and his crew have impressed and are SEC CoY). Tennessee has the worst defense it has EVER fielded. Georgia teams under Ray Goff >>> than this GA team and it's not even close. South Carolina has made great strides under Spurrier, but they are not and have never been elite. KY is the worst team it has fielded in a generation. In this environment, Vandy has made noise.

Yes, we need our offense to win games for us, and it is handicapped by our defense. Under Chaney and Dooley though, it has never pulled out a tough game for us, and it has had multiple chances this year. Kids drawing plays in dirt could score with this offense. Unfortunately, I think that's half the problem; Chaney has done nothing to develop Bray and create a disciplined, consistent offense.
 
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VolFootballlover said:
You are so wrong... Stats don't lie. Chaney has one of the best Offenses in the SEC! Chaney has been over ruled by Dooley in situations thats out of Chaney's control. We don't have RB's like other SEC teams. Have you been able to see any of our guys break a tackle or make some one miss? (We have 1 guy thats plays WR that embarrasses our RB's when He plays RB) Chaney is not the problem what the hell is wrong with you guys? Make all those 500 + 3rd and long stops this season and you would see even more offensive yards. I can not believe how many of you blame Chaney! Offense is by far not the problem!
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I agree. Chaney will run whatever HC tells him to. Just think if we had a great RB and D. Rogers still....ugh Our wideouts aren't fighting for the ball when it's a toss up. Bray shouldn't have several of those picks.
 
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#58
Disagree w/ OP. As has been stated by others, Chaney's O is putting up plenty of points to win. It's the D that's the crapshow.
 
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#59
zidanefan said:
Disagree w/ OP. As has been stated by others, Chaney's O is putting up plenty of points to win. It's the D that's the crapshow.
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No doubt the Tennessee offense >>> Tennessee defense.

The point of the post is this:

Is Chaney getting his all from the Tennessee offense? I think the answer is NO. You could draw plays in the dirt and score with this offense. I think the problem is we still don't look like we have an identity on offense, we are still bang or bust, rarely sustaining drives, and our all-world QB has never had proper development. We look like a team drawing plays in the dirt on offense. But, we've got a great offensive line and some great playmakers in space.

Fortunately, I have discovered people talk much sense about Chaney on the Coaching Forum.
 
#60
#60
Chaney is an outstanding OC. If he loses his job after a coaching change he won't be unemployed long. Any play call that does'nt work is a bad call, any play call that works is a good call, thats the way it is. As far as the SEC goes, it is a much stronger and tougher conference now, especially on defense. Tn and Fla dominated the conference in the 90's because it was a offensive league and they had Danny Wuerffel and we had Peyton Manning. Do you think either one of those QB's could drop 40 on Bama or LSU today?
 
#61
#61
Eddie Vol Halen said:
I think you have this spot-on.

Despite the defense, the offense has been in positions to win every game for us (cept Bama). And they have never pulled it out. Florida loss was ALL on Chaney (and we weren't behind in that one); defense actually made three fourth quarter stops against GA; against Cocks the third and short debacles did not help the defense, and that has been a consistent problem this year DESPITE excellent work by Graham, Pittman, O-line, and RBs.

Any OC should be able to score points with this offense. You could draw plays up in the dirt.

What this offense has never done under Chaney is pull out a big game.
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That's not Chaney. That is Bray and to a lesser extent other players. The coach can call plays... he can't execute them or keep his QB from choking under pressure. He doesn't cause his Jr QB who we KNOW has been coached to be more patient in his reads to go "playground" when the game is on the line. He certainly doesn't drop catchable passes or throw the ball wild.

We were all optimistic about the O because of Bray and Hunter. We all knew CP would be limited by a lack of knowledge in the O. Other players and the D we knew would make mistakes and struggles.

The difference in this season has been the critical mistakes by JH and TB. When the game is on the line you put the ball in the hands of your best players. Chaney and Dooley have. Those players have consistently failed to come through with big, game/season changing plays.
 
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#62
sjt18 said:
The difference in this season has been the critical mistakes by JH and TB. When the game is on the line you put the ball in the hands of your best players. Chaney and Dooley have. Those players have consistently failed to come through with big, game/season changing plays.
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But hasn't that been a consistent feature of the Dooley / Chaney era?
 
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