What if Lance was promoted?

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VolinNooga14

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I'll start by saying this, Lance Thompson had no more DC experience than Sal did. He was known as a solid defensive position coach (same as Sal). But knowing that he was familiar with the personnel and probably would have had a different scheme, do you guys feel like this season would have turned out differently than it has so far if LT was our DC?
 
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VolinNooga14 said:
I'll start by saying this, Lance Thompson had no more DC experience than Sal did. He was known as a solid defensive position coach (same as Sal). But knowing that he was familiar with the personnel and probably would have had a different scheme, do you guys feel like this season would have turned out differently than it has so far if LT was our DC?
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Hard to say. We have 4* talent virtually everywhere on defense, yet average offenses have career days versus our D. It has to be a coaching deficiency on some level.
 
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I've been saying that dooleys biggest mistake was not attempting to retain his assistants. Hes made the comment that if somebody wants to go elsewhere he's not going to get on their way. This kept us from having continuity. Arrogance if u ask me
 
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No way of knowing, but considering just how bad our defense is compared to last year with the same personnel I can honestly say I would rather run the season again with Thompson if given the option

hindsight is 20/20 though

I believe Sal was hired because we badly needed a coach that would fire up the players on the sidelines, but his scheme deficiencies have far outweighed what advantage we gain from that.
 
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Lance did know these kids. He probaly stay with a 4-3 defense. Like these kids were recruited for. We have had a chance in every game but Alabama. Good chance we would be 7-1 or 6-2 at worst.
 
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Lance will be a good head coach soon at some big school..No way Saban hires back a guy who left him and bad mouthed him back in the kiffin year. Lance was known as the next big thing and he made mistake by leaving alabama and it delayed his career by few years.
I wouldnt be upset if we hired him as our next HC. Seriously..he is the next big coach.
 
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Whew, he narrowly avoided being hated, dissed, and destroyed here on VN. Lucky for him he did not get the position. of course, since he now is the 'what if' coach, he is loved by VN.
 
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I don't think it would be much different. He's known more for his recruiting than his coaching, and like Sal he has no real DC experience. No reason to think he would have done noticeably better.
 
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This is what should have happend all along IMO. Promote Lance then maybe we can keep Terry Joseph and just Hire Ansley then maybe Hire another Linebackers coach to go along with coach Staley then that staff would be a little better. Then maybe we wouldn't have lost some recruits like Mackensie Alexander and others as well.
 
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With our secondary, it would 've taken a high caliber DC to have turned this season around. That's not LT.
 
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volfrk86 said:
This is what should have happend all along IMO. Promote Lance then maybe we can keep Terry Joseph and just Hire Ansley then maybe Hire another Linebackers coach to go along with coach Staley then that staff would be a little better. Then maybe we wouldn't have lost some recruits like Mackensie Alexander and others as well.
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Why would you want to keep Terry Joseph?
 
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I love the flippancy of message boards.

I doubt it would me much different, let's not pretend that most of these scrubs aren't the players he recruited...
 
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our secondary would have still been slower than molasses...big dan wouldn't be here either
 
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utvol372 said:
I love the flippancy of message boards.

I doubt it would me much different, let's not pretend that most of these scrubs aren't the players he recruited...
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Very true, but unless we have the Pike fraternity brothers fielding our defensive roster, I'd hope he could at least put a product of the field that doesn't consistently give up 40+ points a game.
 
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VolinNooga14 said:
I'll start by saying this, Lance Thompson had no more DC experience than Sal did. He was known as a solid defensive position coach (same as Sal). But knowing that he was familiar with the personnel and probably would have had a different scheme, do you guys feel like this season would have turned out differently than it has so far if LT was our DC?
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I do. I hang this season on Sunseri. The offense has done enough to win 6 or 7 games already. Sunseri should be bought out and lets go get a proven DC. I'm not sure you can hang all of this on Dooley, especially if Hart chose Sunseri and not Dooley. Hart should own it.
 
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If we had last season's D under Wilcox for this year, the current W/L would be 5-3 or 6-2 and Dools would be on his way to a bowl and a 4th season as HC. So this season we have more seasoned players plus two good jucos shoring up the D-line and a starting senior LB that sat out last season.

Lance would have modified the Wilcox D, but probably would not have made wholesale 3-4 type changes. As a result I would expect they would have brought more pressure under Lance. I see no situation where it would have been like Sal's - the worst D in UT history if it continues on the same trend.

Those of you trashing Lance are idiots. Saban hired him back with one phone call.
 
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I think we would be 6-2 if we kept the 4-3 defense. The secondary looks lost most of the game. Sal needs to simplify this defense and playcalling for the remaining of the year.
 
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Vols4us said:
Those of you trashing Lance are idiots. Saban hired him back with one phone call.
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I love how profoundly misguided this statement is...

You spend two paragraphs bashing Sunseri...

Then, you call people idiots solely based on the fact that Saban hired Thompson to coach his LBs, and thus, that means he would be a good DC for the vols because of that fact.

Do you not see the irony, my little Vince Lombardi?
 
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Vols4us said:
If we had last season's D under Wilcox for this year, the current W/L would be 5-3 or 6-2 and Dools would be on his way to a bowl and a 4th season as HC. So this season we have more seasoned players plus two good jucos shoring up the D-line and a starting senior LB that sat out last season.

Lance would have modified the Wilcox D, but probably would not have made wholesale 3-4 type changes. As a result I would expect they would have brought more pressure under Lance. I see no situation where it would have been like Sal's - the worst D in UT history if it continues on the same trend.

Seems to be the logic I tend to follow. Seems like it would Not or Could Not be worse than this deficient Defense
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