Official Jon Gruden Thread III

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coug said:
The NFL is stocked with full grown men.
Along with them being full grown men they are the cream of the CFB crop.
The worst player on the worst NFL team would be a star in CFB.
NFL coaches don't work nearly as hard as college coaches because NFL players are consummate pros allowing the coaches to scout oppositions and form game plans.
NFL coaches can actually rely on their players to know the play book and push themselves.
Weekly game plans in the NFL are more about adjusting the system for their new opponent while college coaches are using new plays every week.
NFL coaches going CFB are overwhelmed by system implementation, scouting, watching highschool game tapes, making calls and visits to recruits.
The high school football pool is vastly larger than the mostly baren D1 CFB landscape.

Here are just a few examples of NFL coaches going CFB and failing:
Mike Sherman
Dave Wannstedt
Mike Shula
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While I agree with a lot of what you say I think you and some others are still selling him short. Yeah he was coaching NFL players but so were other coaches. And many have failed. Let's not forget that Gruden was one of the youngest coaches in the league. And if you remember, Gruden had a slew of old Wiley veterans at Oakland. Not just veterans...all time greats like Jerry Rice, Rod Woodson, Tim Brown, Eric Allen, Steave wisnewsky, Charles Woodson, and Lincoln Kennedy. Hall of Fame guys....HUGE EGOS! Yet they bought into what he was selling. In fact they would run through a wall for him. A coach that young getting old veterans like that to buy in tells me a lot.

As for his Tampa days....Let's not forget why Dungy got fired. He got BLEW OUT two straight years by the Eagles in the playoffs. His team "couldn't play in the cold" and continued to let down. In comes Gruden and they murdered the Eagles in the playoffs...murdered EVERYONE in the playoffs. And yeah I know they were not as strong the following years. But let's not forget that Tampa was an aging team who had peaked in the Super Bowl season and started heading down a bit. Tampa gave up their 2002 and 2003 first-round draft picks, 2002 and 2004 second-round draft picks, and $8 million in cash! So for 2 years he didn't have a 1st round pick, he'll in 2002 he didn't have a first or second round pick. Throw in Tampas cap issues. I can easily see why his teams decline. You go taking top draft picks away and that tends to happen.

Gruden is one hell of a motivator, communicator, and a great head football coach. There's a reason he's one of the more sought after commodities in the business whether some want to admit it or not. If you don't think highly of the idea of him coaching Tennessee, that's fine. But to question his abilities as a Coach is ABSURD!
 
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Ainge continues his very overt Gruden hints this morning.....saying the contract is for 10 years/ $50mil.

I had heard 7 years, but this coincides with what I was told that there was an interest on both sides for a very long term deal. It also affirms what I was told that Gru wants to be here for personal reasons.

Somebody posted an anonymous quote yesterday that basically said, "I hope this guy can coach, cause we're stuck with him for a long time."
 
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Vol2424 said:
Someone else suggested the same , bro. It helped. I've called in and my "excuse" for this and no sleep went over as expected. Being the youngest , they just keep expecting to run me into the ground. It's sad to say , but I really don't care right now. That's a family owned business for you.
Gruden 2012
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I get migraines, too. I've never had any medication work particularly well. Once I start seeing the flashing lights and lose my peripheral vision, I know its all over. I'll puke, then pass out for 4 hours.
 
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GreatWhiteNorth said:
I get migraines, too. I've never had any medication work particularly well. Once I start seeing the flashing lights and lose my peripheral vision, I know its all over. I'll puke, then pass out for 4 hours.
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I think the caffeine worked for me. Ive been under a lot of stress , but I never drink anything but water and juices/sports beverages. And of course alcohol on the weekend. But it helped. It's not that I hate drinks with caffeine , I just don't care for the taste or feel like I need any energy. Whatever it is , I'm glad it's gone. Migraines are pure hell.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Ainge continues his very overt Gruden hints this morning.....saying the contract is for 10 years/ $50mil.

I had heard 7 years, but this coincides with what I was told that there was an interest on both sides for a very long term deal. It also affirms what I was told that Gru wants to be here for personal reasons.

Somebody posted an anonymous quote yesterday that basically said, "I hope this guy can coach, cause we're stuck with him for a long time."
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BV, that was cd12. I said something to him last night and he wouldn't elaborate. Others were asking about this quote as well.
 
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Ainge and Basilio have been pretty steady with Gruden. Treece seems to waffle day to day. The 3pm show from what I've read, Rucker says no and Swain says yes.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Ainge continues his very overt Gruden hints this morning.....saying the contract is for 10 years/ $50mil.

I had heard 7 years, but this coincides with what I was told that there was an interest on both sides for a very long term deal. It also affirms what I was told that Gru wants to be here for personal reasons.

Somebody posted an anonymous quote yesterday that basically said, "I hope this guy can coach, cause we're stuck with him for a long time."
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Do Gruden's in-laws still live in KNoxville? Knew his wife was from here just wasnt sure how much family was still in town
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Ainge continues his very overt Gruden hints this morning.....saying the contract is for 10 years/ $50mil.

I had heard 7 years, but this coincides with what I was told that there was an interest on both sides for a very long term deal. It also affirms what I was told that Gru wants to be here for personal reasons.

Somebody posted an anonymous quote yesterday that basically said, "I hope this guy can coach, cause we're stuck with him for a long time."
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Long term deals sounds good to me. Sounds like he really wants to be here and be here for the long haul.
 
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So the contract went from averaging $5.25M/yr, to $6.25M down to $5M?

And terms went from 6 years to 10 years? Damn.

Fortunately, I don't buy a word of any of this.
 
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This is probably obvious, but it seems to me that the "stuck with the little bastard" comment would lend some creedence to the possibility of a 10 year contract as opposed to a shorter one. Although 7 years is not small deal, either.
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vol494 said:
Ainge and Basilio have been pretty steady with Gruden. Treece seems to waffle day to day. The 3pm show from what I've read, Rucker says no and Swain says yes.
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Treece and Rucker are SPEDS. That has nothing to do with their opinions on this matter however.
 
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