Clay Travis article(don't shoot the messenger)

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newokie03 said:
Yes really. If Gruden was going to come here he would have come two years ago. You people are freaking amazing. I have seen 12 year olds with more common sense than the the average VolNation poster!!!!!!!!
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Not sure if serious.

Some people tend to change over the course of three years. I'm glad what you're doing works for you and you've never felt the need to change but some people do change. Maybe he didn't get the NFL offer he's been wanting and he's willing to go to college now rather than continue waiting? Maybe he's bored of commentating and wants to get back into coaching. I seriously doubt he comes here but him saying no the last time around doesn't mean he'd say no again. Things change.
 
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RichRollin said:
Yeah I see whatcha sayin. You make some pretty good points. I just think the time has to be now. Dooley's done a good job of building a solid foundation. I think a proven coach could win quick here off of what Dooley has built. I also think the longer he stays here the more recruiting will take a hit and the more difficult the job will become for potential coaches. Okay, perhaps Gruden will never come here. But I wonder what goes thru the mind of someone like Gruden if they were to watch one of our games. Our performance doesn't match our talent level. Any big time coach should look at this roster and be confident that they could win. It's not the job it was when Dooley came here. He's done his job as a "stop gap" coach. Now it's time to get a real coach to finish the job. JMO
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I'm fine with firing him at the end of the season. I just think we better land a proven coach if we're going to fire him. I see no reason to fire one unproven coach that's been a disaster for another unproven coach. It would take someone better James Franklin to fire Dooley. People already claim we don't have the funds for another coach which means we have to make the right hire or we put ourselves in another hole. Too much at stake to risk it on someone like Franklin whose only coached two seasons imo.
 
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Heck if they could hire gruden today they should blow dooley out and bring him in. the assistant coaches could have on the job interviews w gruden for the remainder of the season.
 
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newokie03 said:
Yes really. If Gruden was going to come here he would have come two years ago. You people are freaking amazing. I have seen 12 year olds with more common sense than the the average VolNation poster!!!!!!!!
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Go somewhere else then Dooley homer. Guess there's never been a time in your life when something didn't look too good and 4 years later you changed your mind. Not saying Gruden will come here but for u to say we have no chance at getting him and 12 year olds have more commen sense, then u should get off this board and go finish your coloring book.
 
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I like Mark Dantonio. Not saying he's the answer, but dudes solid. He built the foundation at Cincinnatti in which Brian Kelly's success came on. Not to discredit Kelley, but Dantonio put in the "grunt work" then bailed to Michigan State where he had another rebuild awaiting him. That's a BIG plus... Being that he can build a program. Yeah they're a bit down this year, but he's coming off back to back 11 win seasons. He was the D coordinator for Tressel on a NC team at Ohio State. He was also Tressel's DC at Youngstown, they saw major success there. He runs a pro style offense and his teams play hard nosed defense. His philosophy is ideal for what's necessary to win in this league. We really need to get back to pro style I formation/play action football. Styles come and go, but that's the one style that has withstood the test of time at all levels of football.

The most important thing...Michigan isn't an ELITE recruiting state. Pretty good but not elite. And Sparty WILL ALWAYS play second fiddle to UM in state. Though he does recruit Michigan, he relys on Ohio a lot for recruits...even having to recruit nationally to an extent.

Again, just a thought. Personally I think he's one of the better coaches in the country. Cinncinatti nor Michigan State are near the level of Tennessee. Yeah the conference is tougher. But his level of support from UTs resources would be mind boggling compared to what he's used to. And he's won everywhere he's been. I think he's capable of rising to the challenge.
 
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I can only hope that Gruden is ready to get back into coaching. He seems to really connect with younger college aged players. If that's the case, we have a good shot.
 
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JPVols said:
Good article. I know nothing about clay travis, but I think he went a little extreme with gruden, OR maybe he knows something we dont. :eek:hmy:
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He knows money talks.......and if someone offers you $5,000,000 to coach a football program....with the facilities...fan base....national stage.....not to mention the ultimate coaching competition to go up against every week.....then you have to stop and REALLY give it a long long thought.

He built the Raiders.....the freaking RAIDERS into a Super Bowl contender....I can't fathom what the endless potential for Tennessee would be under Chuckie!
 
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utchuckster said:
Al Golden is a name I did not think about, could be on a list, need to go back and see were he came from, don't know much about him.
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Built Temple into a winning program. Even a stooge like Addazio is having trouble screwing up what Al Golden built there. Screwed with a bad situation at Miami. Tennessee would look like paradise to him compared to the crap jobs he's taken on in his career.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
He knows money talks.......and if someone offers you $5,000,000 to coach a football program....with the facilities...fan base....national stage.....not to mention the ultimate coaching competition to go up against every week.....then you have to stop and REALLY give it a long long thought.

He built the Raiders.....the freaking RAIDERS into a Super Bowl contender....I can't fathom what the endless potential for Tennessee would be under Chuckie!
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I know about Gruden. But, not Clay Travis, all I'm saying is he could have an insider who has heard whispers. He basically said if UT threw $5mil at him he would take the job, could be just his best guess but might not be. Food for thought, i suppose. I'm not saying I think CDD should go, but I'm saying he should stay either.
 
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Volinnooga said:
Nothing about Randy Shannon?

I hear he has been contacted and is interested...
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HaHa! Funny you mention Randy Shannon. I practically walked shoulder to shoulder with the guy this past weekend at the TCU/Iowa State game. He was coming out of the coordinators box after the game and I couldn't for the life me put a face with the name. I just said hello and he nodded at me. Come to find out he is in his first year as LBs coach for TCU. I have a hard time believing he was a genuine candidate for the DC job and picked that position over DC at UT? I don't believe.
 
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Volinnooga said:
Nothing about Randy Shannon?

I hear he has been contacted and is interested...
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I was wondering what happened to the Shannon AND Lovie Smith bandwagons. Someone merged them into the Gruden one. No play on either of these guys of late in the dream coach posts.
 
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newokie03 said:
Yes really. If Gruden was going to come here he would have come two years ago. You people are freaking amazing. I have seen 12 year olds with more common sense than the the average VolNation poster!!!!!!!!
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Shhhhh :shhh: The adults are talking...Go watch cartoons or something.
 
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i liked al golden when he was at temple thought he wouldve been a better hire than DD
i have cooled on him a bit. his miami team has has some BAD losses.
but to be fair i dont know what the atmosphere is down there.
 
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I like this from his article.

"If you're firing a former head coach who didn't pan out, you better not hire another coach who hasn't even organized a spring camp. Successful head coaches are much less risky propositions. So save your Kirby Smart talk for someone else."
 
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MegaVol said:
I like this from his article.

"If you're firing a former head coach who didn't pan out, you better not hire another coach who hasn't even organized a spring camp. Successful head coaches are much less risky propositions. So save your Kirby Smart talk for someone else."
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That's spot on. UT can't afford to go with a Coordinator or a relatively unproven HFC (i.e. 3 years or less at a minor conference school).
 
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Some of those names are just cringe-worthy.

Petrino? He's a PR nightmare, he hasn't recruited well and his teams regularly get blown out by the Alabamas and LSUs of the world.

Cutcliffe? 4 straight losing seasons at Duke. Yeah, it's Duke, but if you want a big job, you have to at least show me a couple of winning seasons. Also couldn't win a weak SEC West with Eli Manning at QB. Is older and has history of health problems.

Butch Davis? well known NCAA troubles (don't forget what was uncovered at Miami as well), plus he's 60 and has a history of health issues. Not a long term answer for any one.

James Franklin? It's all hype at this point. I'm not a fan of the "Well it's too hard to win at ______, but he almost won there." That's the sort of thing we heard when Dooley was hired. And then we saw what Dykes could do at La Tech. I think Franklin needs a couple more winning seasons or bowl trips before we conclude he's more than a flash in the pan. Remember, he was hot at Maryland too, but things went south before he left there.

..I think if any big program hires one of those 4, they're in trouble.
 
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