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V4L said:
I think if Dooley was "in over his head" as many of you say, we would be getting blown out instead of getting beat by 7-10. (UGA & MSU)

We had a chance to win both games and the players just didn't make plays..how exactly is that Dooley's fault? He made the adjustments at halftime necessary to win the game..I just don't see why it's all on him.
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So is it UK's fault for not making plays when the lose?
Is it AU's fault for not making plays when the lose?

What about Arkansas?
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
So is it UK's fault for not making plays when the lose?
Is it AU's fault for not making plays when the lose?

What about Arkansas?
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Yeah it's all Phillips' fault because they're loaded with talent. That's it.

AU is obviously different..they won a NC two years ago..Chizik didn't walk into the mess Dooley did. Even though I think we're out of that mess for the most part.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
Hubbs isn't a radio show host. He works for the university. He gets information from the university. He is told what he can report and what he can't. You won't see Hyams running a vol site.
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What's that matter? Either way it doesn't mean he has this great eye for talent that you're assuming
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Here's the thing. How do we know it is Conier's fault?

Did the guy on the front line miss an assignment?
Why wasn't Rivera playing the ball? Meaning, eyeing the ball instead of peddling backward (which if I remember correctly he did)?

Now, I am not saying it wasn't Conier's fault. I am just saying it looked like Rivera made a really terrible play due to poor fundamentals. I guess it is something that we will never know for sure.
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I can't sit here and tell you 100% that it is Coiner's fault. We probably will never know exactly why it happened. Rivera should have done a better job. That is obvious. Coiner probably could have done a better job at preparing the players for that situation. I'd say both are at fault.

Wasted timeouts? At the end? If our fifth year senior could make a tackle, we would have stopped that drive with a three and out.

I thought the playcalling was fair and the adjustments at halftime were helping.
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I'm refering to the timeout before the field goal in the first half, not the end of the game. Agreed on Lathers.

I kind of felt like we abandoned the run and made some poor playcalls on 3rd down in the 2nd quarter. That's debatable though. The 2nd half was a lot better.
LIke I stated before, I am not asserting the coaches were perfect. I felt like they put our boys in a position to win (given the talent we had). We had unfortunate injures and players who did not make plays.
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There is truth in that. The players definitely could have done a better job. I guess it is just frustrating to watch the same mistakes over and over.
 
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One positive that comes from tonight..CP is legitimately one of the most electric players in the country. Absolutely filthy what he's able to do with the ball in his hands.


Millen was salivating over him all game.
 
#10,461
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V4L said:
One positive that comes from tonight..CP is legitimately one of the most electric players in the country. Absolutely filthy what he's able to do with the ball in his hands.


Millen was salivating over him all game.
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He pulled a forrest gump in jennys dorm on that reverse
 
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rjd970 said:
Dooley just seems dumbfounded, almost like he's given up. Hopefully that isn't the case.
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Yeah, I've never seen him like that. I felt bad for him. You could there was a lot of pressure on him. Almost as if he knew (had been told beforehand) that if he didn't win this game it was over.

I also sensed frustration in the sense that players continually making terrible plays for no apparent reason. That has to be pretty unnerving for someone who has turned a program around and has them on the verge of getting to the next level.
 
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The only positive I can take is Chaneys play calling. He has gotten creative and we have really started to run the ball well. There were only one or two times where I really disagreed with his playcalling
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
Hubbs isn't a radio show host. He works for the university. He gets information from the university. He is told what he can report and what he can't. You won't see Hyams running a vol site.
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Stop with the Hubbs butt-kissing already. He doesn't know talent that well. Lol, he was reporting that Teague was looking matured and impressive during fall camp. C'mon man.
 
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#10,472
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Well, after a night and early morning of stewing, my stance is that I'm 110 percent behind this team and Dooley. We likely get toasted the next two weeks, but I don't want to see these guys quit. They can go 4-0 in November, although Vandy and Missouri will be tougher games than I would have thought a few weeks back with the weaknesses we have on defense.

I, for one, will be cheering them on. We can still salvage a winning season and these guys deserve it. They have played with a lot more heart this year than they have in a long time.
 
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Oh, and I'm officially the "we ain't getting Gruden" guy from this day forward. Regardless of what happens, if Dooley is fired, we just simply are not getting Gruden. I don't have inside sources, but I also have seen no credible media source even mention this as a remote possibility.

So - just as Negavols hover in every thread to curse Dooley and call for his head, so will I hover in threads calling out those who believe Dooley is the only thing standing between us and Jon Gruden as coach. Until a credible media posts it, I ain't believing it.
 
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After watching the player interviews, I have more faith in the coaching staff. Even if it was just player speak, they have now developed the maturity to use it. Seems like last years attitude and interviews were a lot different. Some MAs were obvious last night which is not coaching so I can see the player at fault. Like before, I will support this team and coaching staff until the end of the year. Not doing so it shooting your own team in the foot. It's inefficient and doesn't make sense to give up on them. We need to be LOUD for Bama.
 
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you guys keep saying how good a job the OC did calling plays last night and i dont understand at all. twice, and on back to back series, he called a long pass play on 3rd and 4, then on 3rd and 1. both resulting in 3 and outs, at a time when msu couldnt stop our running game, and when our defense needed a rest. thats 100% coaching ineptitude.

furthermore, if an analyst like matt millen can gush all game about getting CP the ball move, why afent we doing just that? evertime he touched the ball it was an explosive play, why not throw him a screen pass? quick slant? anything to get the ball in his hands? if we wouldve lined him up at qb last night and ran gimmick plays all night long we wouldve won the game. it was almost like matt millen was begging through the glass to the UT coaches box to get CP the freaking ball! so frustrating.
 
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