The loss of Wilcox ........

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Maybe Dooley should have had him on the sidelines coaching. He looked pretty comfortable last night.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
The Wilcox haters are just ignorant pips overflowing with arrogance. JW didn't have the heft needed in his DL. He didn't have (and we still don't have) the corner pursuit speed needed. He didn't have a mature crop of players and made do with a lot of freshmen. The pips will never understand that Tennessee was (and still is in many ways) an undermanned team. We play in what is the most unforgiving conference in the nation. I'm glad Coach Sal Sunseri is here and wouldn't want to lose him anytime soon. But I also believe if JW was still here that defense would be playing better than last year's unit. About as good if not better than this unit. Simply because we have more experience and somewhat better personnel.

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While I get what you're saying, I believe Wilcox's defense was meant to make a mismatch in talent less effective. Look at Boise, they didn't have the best talent, but he play-called to their strength by keeping the defense on their heels by not over pursuing. Sal's defense demands great talent, though, he wants to pressure the QB, demand yardage losses, etc... problem is, our personnel is still over pursuing and missing runs, big plays because our talent isn't up to part and misses a lot of reads. Sal's D is what will win in the SEC, but it requires a lot more talent and individual decision-making than Wilcox's.
 
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Wilcox did a good job at UT based on the players he had....go back and review the defensive numbers if you disagree
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Wilcox did a good job at UT based on the players he had....go back and review the defensive numbers if you disagree
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His defense was based on being less aggressive on the line, thus making a less-talented defense make less individual decisions on reads and stay on their heels for anything coming. Problem with this D, is it works well against poor-mediocre teams, but power-run teams like Bama, Georgia, SC, LSU, you're still going to see the talent gap. This D worked well at Boise too, especially against Oregon and the likes, where you never want to over-pursue an option offense, or you'll get burned.

Sal's D is based on dominating the line to deal with a power rush, and relies a little more on individual decision-making, which we've gotten hurt on. Like players pinning their ears back on a blitz, when they need to make a quick decision to cut the blitz and pursue the end, netting huge gains in run, and leaving us open on the perimeter for passes as well. In time, though, as the players watch film and learn from their mistakes, they will do much better. This D is required to compete with a team like Bama who you want to make some breaks, contain a power-run. Right now, our biggest issue is the OLB, they need to make quicker decisions, something they didn't have to do a lot in the Wilcox D.
 
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We don't like Wilcox because he left us so we justify it as good riddance and SEC was too tough. He is an up and comer.
 
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thebjd said:
We don't like Wilcox because he left us so we justify it as good riddance and SEC was too tough. He is an up and comer.
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That's ridiculous Dooley plainly said he wasn't ready for sec football. We got rid of Wilcox he didn't leave us. I'd take sal over jw any day.
 
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Giveem6 said:
That's ridiculous Dooley plainly said he wasn't ready for sec football. We got rid of Wilcox he didn't leave us. I'd take sal over jw any day.
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When did Dooley say this and please show me where we got rid of him? He bailed after the 2011 fiasco before he was tainted further. He was not fired.
 
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thebjd said:
When did Dooley say this and please show me where we got rid of him? He bailed after the 2011 fiasco before he was tainted further. He was not fired.
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Dooley said some coaches just were not ready for sec football. Wilcox didn't leave voluntarily I will post the link.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Losing 2/3 of your coaching staff is a good thing.
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I was here for every post of the meltdown that ensued over Wilcox and Sirmon bolting for the Pacific northwest. They were not "got rid of".
 
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Giveem6 said:
That's ridiculous Dooley plainly said he wasn't ready for sec football. We got rid of Wilcox he didn't leave us. I'd take sal over jw any day.
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How well are we doing at stopping the run? Hell for that matter how well are we doing stopping the pass?
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BruinVol said:
I could make a strong arguement that Stanford is one of the most physical offenses in the country and stopping that was something most thought JW couldn't do.
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This. I assumed they'd ram the ball down UW's throat all night much like LSU did and numerous other SEC teams in his time here. Wilcox's defenses have been most successful and competitive against spread type teams, I.e. success vs Jefferson led LSU, Urban's last UF team and Oregon first half. I believe in time he'll be one of the best DC's just because of his age and the experience he already has. Wilcox was handicapped by our lack of quality/experienced DB's in his time here. Janzen and Prentiss secondary was pretty solid his first year.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Its typically right the opposite. He sucks now because he left.

Truth of the matter. There's nothing Dooley can do about the growing pains. When you have to replace a complete D staff and 7 total coaches thats gonna happen. His problem is this is year 3 and the expectations are different than 2 years ago.
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Giveem6 said:
Dooley said some coaches just were not ready for sec football. Wilcox didn't leave voluntarily I will post the link.
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If Dooley did indeed run Wilcox off he deserves to be fired. Why is Dooley never happy with anyone that works for him? Why did he hire them to start with? Personally I think Wilcox left on his own accord and Dooley made comments in the media just trying to deflect the fact that 90% of his coaches left. Dooley needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and quit blaming everyone else for his lack of progress.
 
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Wicox's stats looked decent because we had so many blowouts that all of the decent teams put the brakes on and simply ran it up our a**. The 28th D is the nation might have been true but LAST in the SEC in sacks and very low in to's as well are some stats as well. No one saw me on here complaining about losing him as looking at stats alone will get just a limited view. Just name some big plays on defense since Eric Berry has been gone, you will have trouble. Sirmon on the other hand is a hell of a recruiter.
 
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