TN 3/4 D from a casual observer

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Sure seems to me that TN has 4 down linemen for most snaps. Am I missing something about this whole 3 - 4 defensive thing?
 
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To be honest I think Dooley pulled the trigger on installing the 3-4 when he thought we were going to be getting Dalton Santos, Otha Peters and a couple other recruits we whiffed on.

Not to mention the string of injuries we took at LB on top of that.

So long story short we didn't get the depth we thought we were getting and our limited depth took a hit which further complicated things. So we started fielding 4DL/3LB instead of 3DL/4LB.

You had it right. There are supposed to be 3DL in a vanilla 3-4 set. The depth at LB issue is just my theory as to why we've not run the 3-4 as much as Dooley I think wanted.
 
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Doesn't the 3/4 mean there are three down linemen and four LBs? Seems we line up most often with 4 down. If so, maybe we're re-evaluating and adjusting? I'm looking for footage now to see if I'm right or need to lay off the caffeine at game time.
 
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AdoptedVOL said:
Doesn't the 3/4 mean there are three down linemen and four LBs? Seems we line up most often with 4 down. If so, maybe we're re-evaluating and adjusting? I'm looking for footage now to see if I'm right or need to lay off the caffeine at game time.
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You are correct in the number of down linemen/linebackers. Putting it simply that's what a 3-4 is. As to how much of what flavor we've run... I can't recall exactly. I think we run a 3-4 maybe 60-70% of the time?

I think that will increase now that we have Christian Harris fully healthy.
 
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I think the big problem is we audible so much that we put four guys down for pass rush and on passing downs we play 3-4 a lot! There's multiple 3-4 fronts as well too! You can run a 3-4 with a extra safety at OLB to give you speed or better pass protection! We use a multiple front system designed to hide coverages! It's hard to do this with no true pass rusher or great CB play!
 
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One of the four lineman you see is a LB lined up on the line, making you think it's a 3-4 on alot of plays.
 
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DC Vol said:
You are correct in the number of down linemen/linebackers. Putting it simply that's what a 3-4 is. As to how much of what flavor we've run... I can't recall exactly. I think we run a 3-4 maybe 60-70% of the time?

I think that will increase now that we have Christian Harris fully healthy.
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I think Harris will be a huge boost but he's missed a lot of practice.
 
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The defense uses 2 base formations - the 3-4 and the 4-2-5. The 3-4 is our base defense that we use against formations with only 2 receivers.

The 4-2-5 is what we use against formations with 3+ receivers. Eric Gordon, Dontavis Sapp, and Corey Miller come into the game for Daniel McCullers, Herman Lathers, and Mo Couch/Darrington Sentimore.

Florida used mostly 2 back and 2 TE formations so we used the 3-4 the most. NC State and GA State used mostly 3 wide so we were in the nickel most of the game. Akron used 3+ receivers every play of the game so we used a 4-2-5 the entire game.
 
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keckjm said:
I think the big problem is we audible so much that we put four guys down for pass rush and on passing downs we play 3-4 a lot! There's multiple 3-4 fronts as well too! You can run a 3-4 with a extra safety at OLB to give you speed or better pass protection! We use a multiple front system designed to hide coverages! It's hard to do this with no true pass rusher or great CB play!
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Why are you yellin bruh?
 
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Honestly. The problem is the whole counting thing. Some people say potato, others say potato. Some count 1-2-3 some count 1-2-3-4. Really? You look at the defense and say, what, huh? Where were those guys? Then you look at the potato thing and are curious about curly fries v. regular fries. I mean, really, why did Arby's go with the curty fry and is it really better than the McD fry or just different? And wtf happened to Burger King, I mean, really? they suck bad. Their fries are seriously probably the worst ever on the planet. And their TV ads are equally bad. I really can't remember the last decent Burger King ad I watched. Although, I think one came one during or near the end of the last MNF game where the game came down to the stupid pass from the nameless Seahawk QB and was totally caught by the Green Bay defender, yet the refs called it a Seattle touchdown. Really? Is this what it's all come to? I blame Iran. I hope we nuke their ass in the next 60 days. Honestly, they deserve it, don't they?

Plus, there are no Arby's in Iran, right?
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Honestly. The problem is the whole counting thing. Some people say potato, others say potato. Some count 1-2-3 some count 1-2-3-4. Really? You look at the defense and say, what, huh? Where were those guys? Then you look at the potato thing and are curious about curly fries v. regular fries. I mean, really, why did Arby's go with the curty fry and is it really better than the McD fry or just different? And wtf happened to Burger King, I mean, really? they suck bad. Their fries are seriously probably the worst ever on the planet. And their TV ads are equally bad. I really can't remember the last decent Burger King ad I watched. Although, I think one came one during or near the end of the last MNF game where the game came down to the stupid pass from the nameless Seahawk QB and was totally caught by the Green Bay defender, yet the refs called it a Seattle touchdown. Really? Is this what it's all come to? I blame Iran. I hope we nuke their ass in the next 60 days. Honestly, they deserve it, don't they?

Plus, there are no Arby's in Iran, right?
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Post of the year
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Honestly. The problem is the whole counting thing. Some people say potato, others say potato. Some count 1-2-3 some count 1-2-3-4. Really? You look at the defense and say, what, huh? Where were those guys? Then you look at the potato thing and are curious about curly fries v. regular fries. I mean, really, why did Arby's go with the curty fry and is it really better than the McD fry or just different? And wtf happened to Burger King, I mean, really? they suck bad. Their fries are seriously probably the worst ever on the planet. And their TV ads are equally bad. I really can't remember the last decent Burger King ad I watched. Although, I think one came one during or near the end of the last MNF game where the game came down to the stupid pass from the nameless Seahawk QB and was totally caught by the Green Bay defender, yet the refs called it a Seattle touchdown. Really? Is this what it's all come to? I blame Iran. I hope we nuke their ass in the next 60 days. Honestly, they deserve it, don't they?

Plus, there are no Arby's in Iran, right?
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I'm now hungry and ready for war. Thanks OBV.
 
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