"Food Stamps Make America Stronger"

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The partnership — which was signed by former USDA Secretary Ann M. Veneman and Mexican Secretary of Foreign Affairs Luis Ernesto Derbez Bautista in 2004 — sees to it that the Mexican Embassy and Mexican consulates in America provide USDA nutrition assistance program information to Mexican Americans, Mexican nationals working in America and migrant communities in America. The information is specifically focused on eligibility criteria and access.
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Some of the materials the USDA encourages the Mexican government to use to educate and promote the benefit programs are available free online for order and download. A partial list of materials include English and Spanish brochures titled “Five Easy Steps To Snap Benefits,” “How To Get Food Help — A Consumer’s Guide to FNCS Programs,” “Ending Hunger Improving Nutrition Combating Obesity,” and posters with slogans like “Food Stamps Make America Stronger.”
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USDA partnering with Mexico to boost food stamp rolls | The Daily Caller

so why is the Mexican govt our partner in this? I'm just not understanding why we are allowing the Mexican govt to promote spending our money. Hopefully I'm missing something
 
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One of my favorite exchanges on the Simpson's*

Homer: Packing light?
Lisa: No you must be getting stronger.
Homer: Well, I have been eating more.

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*Disclaimer, have not watched since 2000.
 
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The wife and I usually go to the grocery store together. I have noticed standing in line to check out the people with food stamps don't cut any corners.

They buy the very best brands. The makers of frozen food, potato chips, cookies, candy and soft drinks have to love food stamps. that is probably their largest market.
 
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Amazing statement by the administration. They are pandering to every one they can for votes.
 
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Gramps said:
The wife and I usually go to the grocery store together. I have noticed standing in line to check out the people with food stamps don't cut any corners.

They buy the very best brands. The makers of frozen food, potato chips, cookies, candy and soft drinks have to love food stamps. that is probably their largest market.
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We need to add the embarrassment and misery back to the food stamp lifestyle.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
We need to add the embarrassment and misery back to the food stamp lifestyle.
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That would require a sense of personal pride...and years of "unlearning" the idea that people aren't responsible for their individual life circumstances. I'm afraid it is too late.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
We need to add the embarrassment and misery back to the food stamp lifestyle.
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Yeah, because the single parent who makes less than 20k a year raising two kids definitely needs the burden of ''embarrassment and misery'' added to their plate. It's mindsets like this that lead me to believe people don't give a f*** about anybody but themselves.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Yeah, because the single parent who makes less than 20k a year raising two kids definitely needs the burden of ''embarrassment and misery'' added to their plate. It's mindsets like this that lead me to believe people don't give a f*** about anybody but themselves.
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What about the thrid generation food stamp lifestyle who is content with somebody else funding them, as opposed to becoming a productive member of society?

There are extremes on both sides. But the information in the OP is actually selling people the idea of going on food stamps. It is specifically catering to the lazy segment of the population that is the problem.
 
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rjd970 said:
What about the thrid generation food stamp lifestyle who is content with somebody else funding them, as opposed to becoming a productive member of society?

There are extremes on both sides. But the information in the OP is actually selling people the idea of going on food stamps. It is specifically catering to the lazy segment of the population that is the problem.
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As with everything, there are always people who abuse it.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Yeah, because the single parent who makes less than 20k a year raising two kids definitely needs the burden of ''embarrassment and misery'' added to their plate. It's mindsets like this that lead me to believe people don't give a f*** about anybody but themselves.
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What you fail to understand is that people like myself genuinely believe she would be better off under an unfettered free market system.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
As with everything, there are always people who abuse it.
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Read the OP again. It is specifically marketing to those who would abuse it.

We shouldn't be marketing this out as a great american program. If anything, it should be marketed as a safety blanket where you will be provided with the bare minimum of benefits to eek by until you can provide for yourself.
 
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rjd970 said:
Problem is that will never happen.
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But it is plausible that they move towards more freedom, which will result in more wealth for everyone, I'm convinced.

Less regulation/obstruction will result in more innovation, which results in more productivity.

I wonder how much more wealthy we would be without decades of that BS.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But it is plausible that they move towards more freedom, which will result in more wealth for everyone, I'm convinced.

Less regulation/obstruction will result in more innovation, which results in more productivity.

I wonder how much more wealthy we would be without decades of that BS.
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Given the way the current political system is structured, I disagree it is plausible.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Yeah, because the single parent who makes less than 20k a year raising two kids definitely needs the burden of ''embarrassment and misery'' added to their plate. It's mindsets like this that lead me to believe people don't give a f*** about anybody but themselves.
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Did anybody force her to have thoss two kids she couldn't afford to support?

I don't feel as though I should pay to support her bad decisions.
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
Did anybody force her to have thoss two kids she couldn't afford to support?

I don't feel as though I should pay to support her bad decisions.
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I agree with some of the other posters that given the thread OP, the poster you quoted might have been a little off base with that statement. However, I do recognize his point, and I think he makes a good one nonetheless. Are there welfare mommas out there, who have children for the sake of more from the govt., you bet there are. Are there women out there who had children with a man expecting his support (whether married or unmarried), but the man ended up abandoning his duties as a man, leaving her with unexpected expenses and job obligations, you bet there are. The woman in the latter case could be trying her very best and still not making ends meet for her and her children. My mother works with Social Services and has dealt with women who fall into both categories.

From a libertarian perspective, I agree that it's not necessarily your responsibility to pay for all of this, whether planned (first case) or unplanned (second case); however, we're all citizens of this republic. We all have to pay for plenty of crap that we don't either politically or morally support. I'm sure there's plenty of people who were against the war in Iraq but still had to technically pay for it through their tax dollars. It's how things work in our system, for better or for worse. You're entitled to disagree with how your money is spent, though, so I'm not trying to pick a fight. I guess I'm just saying that not everything is to be thought of in terms of absolutes - black or white.
 
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Prof, I think the general libertarian (not hardcore libertarian) stance is not one of callous but that one must help themselves first. This starts by making sound decisions.

"There is no use whatsoever trying to help people who do not help themselves. You cannot push anyone up a ladder unless he is willing to climb himself" ~ Andrew Carnegie

"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves" ~ Abraham Lincoln
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Prof, I think the general libertarian (not hardcore libertarian) stance is not one of callous but that one must help themselves first. This starts by making sound decisions.

"There is no use whatsoever trying to help people who do not help themselves. You cannot push anyone up a ladder unless he is willing to climb himself" ~ Andrew Carnegie

"You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves" ~ Abraham Lincoln
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I understand your point, but I was saying that a woman who wasn't intending for her partner to fly off shouldn't necessarily be labelled as not trying or simply trying to milk the system, especially if she is working one or two full-time jobs to try to make ends meets. Now, if someone thinks the decision to have a child or two with a man (married or unmarried) is a bad decision, then that's fine, but I don't know that all of such cases were "bad decisions" at the time, under their respective contexts. Even if they were bad decisions, I don't think that need necessarily condemn someone to failure as long as they try to steer the ship straight again. I'm sure all of us have made very bad decisions from time to time; I know I have. I'm not arguing for entitlement, I'm just arguing for those who are trying.
 
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