Is Eric Berry's Number Going To Be Retired?

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TNGlen said:
WOW, if he had ended his career like Inky, he would have not made the pros since Inky was a Jr. And that statement makes about as much since as yours. He could have been hurt in HS, he could have been hurt as a freshman, he could have been run over on the strip. Your logic dictates that EVERY player should put their name in the draft as a Jr because they might get hurt as a Sr. Using that logic, a player should just sue the NFL and come out of HS. I am not a selfish fan, he went in 3 years, good for him. My point is, I am in the camp that he DID NOT show allegiance to The UT but to the $$$. Therefore The UT should show him the same respect and give him all the accolades that he deserves, but NO retired number. You show your allegiance to your university by playing that 4th year. You go above and beyond what is required to make your millions. It is the players choice, the same way it is the universities choice of what honors to bestow.
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Makes about as much sense as having favorite teams listed as Tennessee & Alabama. Lets see your arguement for that.
 
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VOLS_FAN15 said:
Well he would've had it his junior year if Monte would've played him in the traditional safety position instead of in the box
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I agree but it has proven that playing that way showed EBs versalitility and durability. Able to come up and get 12 tackles a game in the box. That helped his draft stock as much as anything. Everyone knew his ball hawking skills are as good as any safety to play the game.
 
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TNGlen said:
HOWEVER, when The UT needed him to give them 13 more games, he couldn't do it. Now, when he wants The UT to give him a retired number, we shouldn't do it either.
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I don't suppose you have that link handy that says HE is asking to have his number retired.
 
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volger said:
I don't suppose you have that link handy that says HE is asking to have his number retired.
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Now Volger you are using common sense and rational reasoning instead of hypotheticals. That isn't welcome on this board often. lol I give you a thumbs up for this post (hitting the like button now).
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Now Volger you are using common sense and rational reasoning instead of hypotheticals. That isn't welcome on this board often. lol I give you a thumbs up for this post (hitting the like button now).
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I remember when you used to be able to keep track of those things...like for a week
 
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EB was great, but not worthy of his jersey being retired in accordance to the regulations. I wish we could retire Inky's # out of respect.
 
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bamawriter said:
I find it odd that Tennessee has NFL accomplishments in the requirements for jersey retirement. Not sure what that has to do with Tennessee.
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I agree with that. I think there were/are alot of people asking WTF is up with that. The reasoning behind it is to weed out lots of people. Notice the Heisman wasn't one of the requirements. That was put in place soley for Manning and if White hadn't told about UT trying to extort from him he would have not been retired either.
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If my 20-year-old son is a lock to be a first round draft pick, and he comes to me and says, "Dad, I think I'm gonna stay and finish college"...I'm 'a be like

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DeepSpringsVol said:
Makes about as much sense as having favorite teams listed as Tennessee & Alabama. Lets see your arguement for that.
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I've made that argument about 100 times already and am done. You can look back through my posts and read it for yourself. Don't need to justify it to you or anyone else. Nice come back though. I guess next you want to talk about my mama or wife or something equally as useless to this discussion as your above post.
 
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volger said:
I don't suppose you have that link handy that says HE is asking to have his number retired.
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Ask him.....It was metaphorical for this thread. I could have substitued Volger or DeepSprings wants it retired but that is even more useless.
 
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Actually, I think the NFL ought to take them right out of HS. When they get their heads ripped off, knees blown out, shoulders separated because they just aren't there physically, let them pump gas. No need in getting an education anymore. One and done to the NFL is laughable for probably 97% of the guys drafted every year. In fact, let's just do away with college football. Just have the NFL fund a minor league. Then all you guys that are proponents of the student athlete without the student part can have a good time. I will just go fishing on Saturday and watch the paid boneheads on Sunday.










Sarcasm warning for Volger, Deepspring et.al.
 
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Hey if a kid is ready why hold them back. Now if a kid leaves and accomplishes more in 3 years than most in 4. Even more reason to be exalted.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Hey if a kid is ready why hold them back. Now if a kid leaves and accomplishes more in 3 years than most in 4. Even more reason to be exalted.
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Exalt him all you want, build statues in your bathroom, whatever you need to do to show your undying adoration for EB.

1: HE WAS AWESOME.
2: HE BAILED ON THE PROGRAM
3: He isn't going to get his number retired unless they change the rules. Nor should he.

Edit: Mistake on my part, overlooked one of his acheivements. Apologies to DeepSprings and others.
 
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TNGlen said:
Exalt him all you want, build statues in your bathroom, whatever you need to do to show your undying adoration for EB.

1: HE WAS AWESOME.
2: HE BAILED ON THE PROGRAM
3: He isn't going to get his number retired unless they change the rules. Nor should he.
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How did he bale on the program? His family needed the money! Both of his parents lost their jobs and his brothers were about to get really involved in recruiting! Here's the video of him announcing he is leaving. Doesn't sound like he is happy about leaving.

YouTube - Eric Berry announcing he's entering the 2010 NFL Draft
 
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He should not have is number retired and is not in the same category of player yet as Reggie, Doug and Peyton. I am not a fan of retiring numbers for college sports anyway.
 
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TNGlen said:
Exalt him all you want, build statues in your bathroom, whatever you need to do to show your undying adoration for EB.

1: HE WAS AWESOME.
2: HE BAILED ON THE PROGRAM
3: He isn't going to get his number retired unless they change the rules. Nor should he.
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I know it's been stated like 5 times and you seem to be ignoring it but it's not a requirement by the university to have played four years.

He was a consensus AA, 2008 SEC defensive POTY, and I believe he'll get in the CFHOF (players who've done far less have).
So like it or not if he achieves the NFL requirements then they probably will retire his number. Though I feel it's unlikely he will (hope I'm wrong btw).

I stated earlier in the thread that I thought paying four years should be a requirement. I've thought about it and changed my mind but I think earning a degree should be. Even if it's earned after their playing days. This is a university and though most come here to play sports, earning a degree should be a goal as well.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
I know it's been stated like 5 times and you seem to be ignoring it but it's not a requirement by the university to have played four years.

He was a consensus AA, 2008 SEC defensive POTY, and I believe he'll get in the CFHOF (players who've done far less have).
So like it or not if he achieves the NFL requirements then they probably will retire his number. Though I feel it's unlikely he will (hope I'm wrong btw).

I stated earlier in the thread that I thought paying four years should be a requirement. I've thought about it and changed my mind but I think earning a degree should be. Even if it's earned after their playing days. This is a university and though most come here to play sports, earning a degree should be a goal as well.
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Yes, you are correct, I read his list of awards and accomplishments about 50 times and kept missing the 08 SEC DPOY. I apologize for my oversight. Do they have to get selected after they meet the 6 requirements? Does it have to be a unanimous selection by some committee? If it is, I still think he won't get "voted" in. If is simply meeting the requirements, I am afraid to admit that he will probably get there. I am going to edit my thread and apologize to DeepSprings for my mistake.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
I know it's been stated like 5 times and you seem to be ignoring it but it's not a requirement by the university to have played four years.

He was a consensus AA, 2008 SEC defensive POTY, and I believe he'll get in the CFHOF (players who've done far less have).
So like it or not if he achieves the NFL requirements then they probably will retire his number. Though I feel it's unlikely he will (hope I'm wrong btw).

I stated earlier in the thread that I thought paying four years should be a requirement. I've thought about it and changed my mind but I think earning a degree should be. Even if it's earned after their playing days. This is a university and though most come here to play sports, earning a degree should be a goal as well.
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a.k.a. Candice Parker, I am not happy about her leaving either. I think she bailed also. However, she did get her degree in 3 years if I am not mistaken. My opinion is that you play your full elligibility or forfeit number retirement. Period. I don't care how good you are (and EB and CP were near the best at UT in their respective sports). Retiring numbers is a slippery slope that can easily get out of hand. I am old and old school but that is how I feel.
 
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How about retiring this number....

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TNGlen said:
Yes, you are correct, I read his list of awards and accomplishments about 50 times and kept missing the 08 SEC DPOY. I apologize for my oversight. Do they have to get selected after they meet the 6 requirements? Does it have to be a unanimous selection by some committee? If it is, I still think he won't get "voted" in. If is simply meeting the requirements, I am afraid to admit that he will probably get there. I am going to edit my thread and apologize to DeepSprings for my mistake.
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If one meets the requirements then it gets voted on by a committee consisting of the Men's AD, the President of the University, The Chairman of the Athletics Committee of the Board of Trustees, and The President of the UT Lettetman's Association. It does have to be unanimous.

The person has to have been a good citizen and can't gain greater fame/recognition from another university.

I noticed it also said if they make it into both the college and pro hall of fame they will get strong consideration. So I take it that if those 2 are the only requirements met, they might do it anyway.
 
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