Dooley Sees Upswing

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Well he isn't going to come out and say this team is world beaters. We have a shotty kicking game, we know that. Inexperienced rbs, so not even Dooley can predict how they will do. Dline and our D backfield are learning new schemes. I can see where he is coming from.

I see this as Dooley saying he knows what to work on to get this team ready to go come fall.
 
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A clear division in personality types, I guess...

Type 1:



Type 2:



People are free to choose.

Type 1 Year 1: I am happy to be coaching the Vols. We have holes we need to fix on the defensive line, running backs and kicking.

Type 2 Year 3: I look forward to my third season. We have holes we need to fix on the defensive line, running backs and kicking.
 
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Type 1 Year 1: I am happy to be coaching the Vols. We have holes we need to fix on the defensive line, running backs and kicking.

Type 2 Year 3: I look forward to my third season. We have holes we need to fix on the defensive line, running backs and kicking.

UH....what about O-line,D-line,WR,DB,LB,QB,ect...
 
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Type 1 Year 1: I am happy to be coaching the Vols. We have holes we need to fix on the defensive line, running backs and kicking.

Type 2 Year 3: I look forward to my third season. We have holes we need to fix on the defensive line, running backs and kicking.

Type 1, year 3: We had holes that needed to be filled at nearly every position. Now there are three. I guess we can live with that for now, seeing that recruiting and player development isn't an instantaneous endeavor.
 
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I think Jay Graham needs to have a closed door meeting with Chaney and the O-line coach. Jay simply needs to show them films from '95 and '96 in regards to running the ball and O-line play and receivers blocking.

Youth at RB isn't that big of a deal if the line and receivers do their part.

If UT can run the ball with any effectiveness, watch out. They will light the scoreboard up which will make it easier on the D, so on and so on.
 
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Very concerned with the kicking game. I don't think the other spots mentioned are in the same ballpark of concern. Especially after all the new guys get there.
 
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I think Jay Graham needs to have a closed door meeting with Chaney and the O-line coach. Jay simply needs to show them films from '95 and '96 in regards to running the ball and O-line play and receivers blocking.

Youth at RB isn't that big of a deal if the line and receivers do their part.

If UT can run the ball with any effectiveness, watch out. They will light the scoreboard up which will make it easier on the D, so on and so on.

He might want to try to persuade Chaney to run the ball more too....Chaney has a history of running a pass-heavy offense.
 
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Type 1, year 3: We had holes that needed to be filled at nearly every position. Now there are three. I guess we can live with that for now, seeing that recruiting and player development isn't an instantaneous endeavor.

:)

IMO the worst part is that the kicking game is the one position that we thought three years ago that we were set at.
 
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Type 1, year 3: We had holes that needed to be filled at nearly every position. Now there are three. I guess we can live with that for now, seeing that recruiting and player development isn't an instantaneous endeavor.

Excuses don't bring wins and Dooley is paid well to take on these type of endeavors and win. I hope Dooley turns it around. Point is, going into the third year, he's not where most would hope or expect him to be. I have been listening to excuses for over a decade now. Tired of them.
 
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We will know within the first three games if Dools can actually coach......some days I think we will go 3-0, and other days 1-2. I'm really torn. BTW - I'm shocked at how many on VN are blowing off NC State. That game is a coin flip right now.
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We will know within the first three games if Dools can actually coach......some days I think we will go 3-0, and other days 1-2. I'm really torn. BTW - I'm shocked at how many on VN are blowing off NC State. That game is a coin flip right now.
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Given recent history no one should blow off any team. This is Dooley's year to prove himself. I hope he does it.
 
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Excuses don't bring wins and Dooley is paid well to take on these type of endeavors and win. I hope Dooley turns it around. Point is, going into the third year, he's not where most would hope or expect him to be. I have been listening to excuses for over a decade now. Tired of them.

Look, I'm tired of being where we have been as a program too. I empathize with your feelings. Truly.

However, an honest appraisal of the UT program that Dooley inherited is that it had pretty much been burnt to the ground. And there just isn't a "talent mart" where you can just go and buy SEC-ready talent. It must be obtained at a steady pace, and then developed. It's a process.

Those aren't excuses. They are just facts.

Will Dooley be successful? I hope so. Is the program in better condition now than it was when he got here? Yes. Is it less painful to endure the rebuild by noting the progress than it is to hold the process to an unfair timeline?

I would say so.

The "I'm just tired of losing" argument may feel good on the lips, but it sounds juvenile and detached from reality.

Sorry. Just being honest.
 
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Excuses don't bring wins and Dooley is paid well to take on these type of endeavors and win. I hope Dooley turns it around. Point is, going into the third year, he's not where most would hope or expect him to be. I have been listening to excuses for over a decade now. Tired of them.

Then most people need to check themselves. Sure the wins havent came but this roster is now in a position to win some games. I think if you told most Vol fans three years ago that we would be expected to win 8 to 10 games this year , they would be very pleased. Could be wrong though..

I still have my doubts about DD but IMO we are right where we need to be after the mess he inherited. Now he has to win.
 
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I don't think the improvement to the roster is what has given fans such a sharp tongue when it comes to Dooley....it's the lack of improvement on the field.

Fair or unfair, its from where most of the criticism comes.....

Arent those two related? Improvement on roster translates to the field. Got to improve the roster first and he has.
 
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Look, I'm tired of being where we have been as a program too. I empathize with your feelings. Truly.

However, an honest appraisal of the UT program that Dooley inherited is that it had pretty much been burnt to the ground. And there just isn't a "talent mart" where you can just go and buy SEC-ready talent. It must be obtained at a steady pace, and then developed. It's a process.

Those aren't excuses. They are just facts.

Will Dooley be successful? I hope so. Is the program in better condition now than it was when he got here? Yes. Is it less painful to endure the rebuild by noting the progress than it is to hold the process to an unfair timeline?

I would say so.


The "I'm just tired of losing" argument may feel good on the lips, but it sounds juvenile and detached from reality.

Sorry. Just being honest.

Very well said.
 
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We will know within the first three games if Dools can actually coach......some days I think we will go 3-0, and other days 1-2. I'm really torn. BTW - I'm shocked at how many on VN are blowing off NC State. That game is a coin flip right now.
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No way its a coin flip, we should win that game. Anyone pretending we shouldnt knows that it means DD has failed and they cant stomach that with their unconditional love for him . Not saying a blowout but we should win by 7+
 
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Where are all the people who say CDD never takes any blame? Where are all the people who say CDD always makes excuses?

He has made significant improvement on the roster from the day he was hired.


It is easy to take blame in the spring. Let's not get carried away with the "Dooley is taking responsibility" talk.
 
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I think that most people look past the fact that Coach Dooley came in to the program in the worst possible scenario. Fulmer was gone and then Kiffin comes in and basically claims we are gonna win National Titles and then bolts for USC. 3 years with 3 different coaches is tough in ANY conference, but we are talking about the SEC. We play in the best conference in the nation where South Carolina is no longer a doormat, Bama and LSU are dominant, Arkansas has been explosive offensively, Auburn has won a title, oh and there is Florida and Georgia too.

We are recruiting against those guys and playing against those guys after going through 3 coaches in 3 years. I am pleased with where we are as far as talent considering the difficult circumstances the program has endured. We are set up to win 8, 9, MAYBE even 10 games.

I am pleased with what Dooley has done and honestly if Hunter and Bray don't go down last year I think we would have won 7 or 8 games and been in good shape. We had the worst injuries at the worst times.

I think we are going to have a successful year and Dooley will be here for a long time.

That's me being hopeful.

GO VOLS!!!
 
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No way its a coin flip, we should win that game. Anyone pretending we shouldnt knows that it means DD has failed and they cant stomach that with their unconditional love for him . Not saying a blowout but we should win by 7+


Well, think about this: we are installing a completely new defensive scheme who's success largely relies on a guy (McCullers) who isn't even on campus, not to mention what kind of shape he will be in come Aug with less than a month to prepare. NC state won 6 of their last 8 last year and had some big wins (Clemson). When their offense is clicking, they can put up points, and Glennon is very good. All that against our new D that's suspect in key areas (corners, D-line), on a neutral field............no cause for concern??
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Arent those two related? Improvement on roster translates to the field. Got to improve the roster first and he has.

Not denying that....just illustrating the fact that even though there was an improved roster from '10 to '11, even marginally so, the results on the field seemed to indicate otherwise.

I will say this in Dooley's defense, however, the injuries on the roster to key members were significant and likely cost one or two games so I am not nearly as harsh on DD as others.

I'm just one that used to support him to the hilt and thought he had this program headed in the right direction, but after the UK game, his 6 week hibernation from the media afterwards, and the locker room drama in the off-season...I'm on the fence.

I honestly and truly hope he turns things around this year...but I'm not nearly as optimistic about it as I once was.
 
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of the those 4 positions, DL is the only one that Dooley hasnt recruited as well as he has needed, i think. the kicker position sucks because of a bust. it seems we have some good RBs, we just need the Oline to give them a chance. in JC's offense, you dont necessarily need All SEC backs, to be somewhat effective.
 
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Type 1 Year 1: I am happy to be coaching the Vols. We have holes we need to fix on the defensive line, running backs and kicking.

Type 2 Year 3: I look forward to my third season. We have holes we need to fix on the defensive line, running backs and kicking.

Thank god you aren't a Kentucky fan. They didn't punt during their spring game because they don't have a kicker. Their starting corner is a converted RS freshman tailback. Their QB from last year is essentially done and they are counting on a true freshman coming in this year.

Times have been tough, but this year is the first in a long time we actually have a roster without glaring holes. No more Simms throwing to amazing receivers, or Bray only having DR as a target. No true freshman o-line or a defense led in tackles by a converted RB.

We're are not going to win every game this year, but we'll finally have a shot every time we hit the field.
 
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Well, think about this: we are installing a completely new defensive scheme who's success largely relies on a guy (McCullers) who isn't even on campus, not to mention what kind of shape he will be in come Aug with less than a month to prepare. NC state won 6 of their last 8 last year and had some big wins (Clemson). When their offense is clicking, they can put up points, and Glennon is very good. All that against our new D that's suspect in key areas (corners, D-line), on a neutral field............no cause for concern??
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Concern, yes. Its not going to be a cake walk by any means. But we should win the game. Talk about their offense all you want but our offense should blow theirs off the field. Is our roster better than theirs from top to bottom? If your answer is yes then we should find a way to win. JMO
 
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I think that our offense will be too much for NC St to stop. Once we get a little bit of balance by utilizing an improved running game, they won't be able to cover the likes of Hunter, Rogers, and Patterson. Not to mention the fact that our Tight Ends have made a pretty significant improvement. I think Rivera, Downs, and Clear will all be heavily involved in the offense as well.
 
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