Where did life begin? (Merged)

Do you believe we have a creator, aka "God"?


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then you have none

Your holier than thou attitude calling out "trashing another man's faith" attitdue is hypocritical. You trash opinions all the time in this forum, just like the rest of us.

Faith is generally afforded speical rules of conversation in everyday discourse because peolple get so easily offended. I think that is crap, it is an opinion just like everything else and deserves to be openly talked about and ridiculed the same way everything else is.

You disagree?
 
Your holier than thou attitude calling out "trashing another man's faith" attitdue is hypocritical. You trash opinions all the time in this forum, just like the rest of us.

Faith is generally afforded speical rules of conversation in everyday discourse because peolple get so easily offended. I think that is crap, it is an opinion just like everything else and deserves to be openly talked about and ridiculed the same way everything else is.

You disagree?

I don't get offended by ignorance and I have said that I am glad you have a place to vent about your beliefs. No one is "holier than thou", it was a simple question for him, you are just being an arse to try to start a fight, not going to work
 
I don't get offended by ignorance and I have said that I am glad you have a place to vent about your beliefs. No one is "holier than thou", it was a simple question for him, you are just being an arse to try to start a fight, not going to work

I don't get offended by ignorance either, so we're good.

I'm glad you have a place to vent about me venting about my beliefs.

And if you say it was a simple question, then fine. It certainly didn't come across that way. It came across as irritation at his attacks on "faith", specifically yours.

And I am not trying to be an arse or start a fight, we are all playing in the big boy sandbox here. Grow thicker skin or leave your faith at the door.
 
I don't get offended by ignorance either, so we're good.

I'm glad you have a place to vent about me venting about my beliefs.

And if you say it was a simple question, then fine. It certainly didn't come across that way. It came across as irritation at his attacks on "faith", specifically yours.

And I am not trying to be an arse or start a fight, we are all playing in the big boy sandbox here. Grow thicker skin or leave your faith at the door.

don't you mean "opinion"? He has not attacked my faith as I have not attacked his beliefs I was taking up for Gramps, now, I disagree that there is no diference between faith and opinion, but whatever, thick skin is a trait that runs in my family as we are all Christians and game officials
 
don't you mean "opinion"? He has not attacked my faith as I have not attacked his beliefs I was taking up for Gramps, now, I disagree that there is no diference between faith and opinion, but whatever, thick skin is a trait that runs in my family as we are all Christians and game officials

Of course not, and given what you have posted so far, that is no surprise.
 
don't you mean "opinion"? He has not attacked my faith as I have not attacked his beliefs I was taking up for Gramps, now, I disagree that there is no diference between faith and opinion, but whatever, thick skin is a trait that runs in my family as we are all Christians and game officials

See, this is the problem with this debate and trying to keep it civil. Those lacking in faith afford no special treatment to the faith of others, because we believe that religion is just a belief that differs from our own.

Those who rely on faith to form their beliefs, think that they are owed some special boundaries, because religious faith holds a higher value than do athiestic beliefs.
 
See, this is the problem with this debate and trying to keep it civil. Those lacking in faith afford no special treatment to the faith of others, because we believe that religion is just a belief that differs from our own.

Those who rely on faith to form their beliefs, think that they are owed some special boundaries, because religious faith holds a higher value than do athiestic beliefs.

No we dont, just silly
 
And because religion is something that people are so vehement about, any discussion that even remotely touches on religion is degraded to this very conversation, at some point. And I apoligize for having a part in this.
 
And because religion is something that people are so vehement about, any discussion that even remotely touches on religion is degraded to this very conversation, at some point. And I apoligize for having a part in this.

The moral high ground lmao
 
No we dont, just silly

Maybe I worded it wrong. I didn't mean to imply that religious people always assume that their beliefs are more important than others. I meant that to someone with religious beliefs, it's a touchy subject. Obviously, if you don't have any religious beliefs, it's not a touchy subject. So it's difficult for the two sides to have a civil discussion, in most cases.
 
See, this is the problem with this debate and trying to keep it civil. Those lacking in faith afford no special treatment to the faith of others, because we believe that religion is just a belief that differs from our own.

Those who rely on faith to form their beliefs, think that they are owed some special boundaries, because religious faith holds a higher value than do athiestic beliefs.

more ignorance....people of faith do not think they are owed squat
 
more ignorance....people of faith do not think they are owed squat

Okay... but you clearly do:

Does it make you feel good to trash a man's faith?

If you stated something in disagreement with me, I would never be able to say, "Does it make you feel good to trash my opinion?" People on a web forum wouldn't even know what to think about a statment like that.
 
Maybe I worded it wrong. I didn't mean to imply that religious people always assume that their beliefs are more important than others. I meant that to someone with religious beliefs, it's a touchy subject. Obviously, if you don't have any religious beliefs, it's not a touchy subject. So it's difficult for the two sides to have a civil discussion, in most cases.

which was the reason for my original question to you about faith......I was trying to get to the core of the fear that most non-believers have of believers
 
The whole strife between religion and science is only an issue because the catholic church saw science as a threat to their control.
 
Okay... but you clearly do:

what have I said that I am entitled to or asked for or demanded from any one?

If you stated something in disagreement with me, I would never be able to say, "Does it make you feel good to trash my opinion?" People on a web forum wouldn't even know what to think about a statment like that.

I guess I worded that one badly then. It was a simple question, sorry.
 
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