Where did life begin? (Merged)

Do you believe we have a creator, aka "God"?

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#251
#251
Georgia Peach said:
Heavy subject. I think that everything evolves through a natural process. Perhaps we started as micro organisms and over time developed into different species depending on environment and needs. Rationality and logic would suggest that there is a starting point and it would need to be something that could be proven. I struggle with this subject sometimes as I think many do. I was recently reading about why humans have hope and I guess you could apply this to faith as well but basically from a scientific standpoint it is a survival technique. I dont believe in a god that controls our destiny. I believe that if there is a god that nature is the closest thing we have to it.
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I should say something whitty here since you put a lot of thought into this.......i got nothin GP.





Nope, nothing.
 
#253
#253
Hitting someone who isn't already attacking you or someone else (or in imminent threat thereof) is automatically lacking self-control.

I can understand his sentiment though.
 
#255
#255
RespectTradition said:
I think you are confused.

When you are talking science, theory has a very specific meaning. A theory only qualifies as a theory after a hypothesis is tested and the predictions match reality.

What is the ``scientific method''?


Incidentally, that is why I question the validity of calling evolution a theory. To me, it seems to qualify as a hypothesis, because I am not sure how it is testable.
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It's a theory because it can be tested and there's enough evidence in support of it. It's been proven on a micro level even.
 
#258
#258
VOLatile said:
It's a theory because it can be tested and there's enough evidence in support of it. It's been proven on a micro level even.
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How can you do controls? How can you change a single factor, then see what happens? then recreate it?

I am not arguing. I am curious.
 
#262
#262
The voo doo that you do sometimes sounds like hoo hoo until one see's its true, then it is more like woo woo!

(no, I am not high)
 
#267
#267
RespectTradition said:
How can you do controls? How can you change a single factor, then see what happens? then recreate it?

I am not arguing. I am curious.
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Not sure, exactly. I'm not in school for it, yet. I'm drunk posting again, so I'll have to.revisit the question. I think I know the answer, though.
 
#268
#268
OrangeEmpire said:
Its odd, he said he wouldnt shoot someone if he was being attacked.
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L.O.L. Two entirely different scenarios, but I'll bite. The one has to do with someone 'trying' to soothe me by saying God took my loved one because it was 'his plan'. The last thing I want to hear is a justification for them dying. Especially that one.
 
#271
#271
Rockytop1018 said:
If the belief that everything happens for a reason is held true, then yes.
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Then, JMO, God, if he exists, is a capricious arse.

There is no twisted logic or roundabout rationalization, God's will, he works in mysterious ways mumbo jumbo people tell each other to make themselves feel better about their beliefs to explain why certain things happen.

8 years ago a Tsunami killed over 200,000 people in southeast Asia. What possible reason could a omnibenevolant God make or let something like this happen? Surely defenseless infants and countless normal people going about their business were brutally drowned in this, while 3 years prior overly religious zealots were allowed to fly planes into buildings killing more innocent people, and they were "allowed" (if one really believes God steps in from time to time to make things happen) to live their lives and ferment their beliefs, setting the stage for it to happen.

I don't buy it. Instead of believing that God randomly steps in from time to time to "miraculously" save somebody so believers can tout it as evidence of his compassion, it is more reasonable to drop the bad baggage that comes with that and just say everything, good and bad, happens by chance without the guiding hand of an invisible mover.

Somebody inexplicably gets better? God had nothing to do with it, they just got better and we can't presently explain it. Why is that so difficult for some people?
 
#272
#272
rjd970 said:
Then, JMO, God, if he exists, is a capricious arse.

There is no twisted logic or roundabout rationalization, God's will, he works in mysterious ways mumbo jumbo people tell each other to make themselves feel better about their beliefs to explain why certain things happen.

8 years ago a Tsunami killed over 200,000 people in southeast Asia. What possible reason could a omnibenevolant God make or let something like this happen? Surely defenseless infants and countless normal people going about their business were brutally drowned in this, while 3 years prior overly religious zealots were allowed to fly planes into buildings killing more innocent people, and they were "allowed" (if one really believes God steps in from time to time to make things happen) to live their lives and ferment their beliefs, setting the stage for it to happen.

I don't buy it. Instead of believing that God randomly steps in from time to time to "miraculously" save somebody so believers can tout it as evidence of his compassion, it is more reasonable to drop the bad baggage that comes with that and just say everything, good and bad, happens by chance without the guiding hand of an invisible mover.

Somebody inexplicably gets better? God had nothing to do with it, they just got better and we can't presently explain it. Why is that so difficult for some people?
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Have you ever read the Worthing Saga by Orson Scott Card?
 
#273
#273
GoBigOrangeUT said:
I'm not gonna lie...if something terrible were to happen to me or my family and somebody said to me ''it was part of Gods plan'' I would punch them.
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Pretty much. Sometimes people die, and there is no rhyme or reason to it. It is much easier for me to swallow that then it is to believe somebody had a plan behind it.
 
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