Justin Hunter ESPN

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The_Orange_Pearl said:
I thought Bray said he already looks as good as he did going into the Florida game?

The advancement in fixing boo boos is amazing these days. You read about some athletes coming out better than they were prior to the injury. Run faster or jump higher. Probably not always the case but it's impressive what doctors can do today.
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he will be fine...Its was just an ACL....those and MCL's are no biggie's now-a-days.....the torn patella is the one that ends careers.
 
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Ashevillevol said:
How long ago was that? Techniques and recovery have greatly improved even in last 10 years.
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Do you know a bunch of guys who tore an ACL and were as good as ever the following year? Seriously, give me some examples if you have any. I'm not doubting you, I honestly don't know how many guys there are. I'm sure there are examples both ways.
 
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Ashevillevol said:
The key word there is "guess". If you have experience in that type of practice then you aren't guessing. If you have seen or done hundreds of them then you know how most of them go and how long it takes to get full range of motion back. With the access he has to all the rehab facilities at his disposal,barring some unusual complication, he will be fine for the fall.
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There is a mental aspect to it that is just as important as the physical aspect.
 
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tvolsfan said:
He may be good to play, but we're not just hoping he'll play, we're hoping he'll be the lightning fast receiver capable of making huge plays against elite secondaries. I can't say for sure he won't get there by next season, but I can't help but think people are being a little optimistic.
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Ok but im just telling you from experience that unless there is something unusual in the process or he reinjures the joint as he is strengthening it, he will be fine.
 
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tvolsfan said:
True, but it seems guys who hurt their ACL don't get back to 100% until the second year after the injury. Hunter may play, but I don't think he'll be as good as most will probably expect.
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This is true in 1993. He tore it so early he gets almost 12 months to recover. He'll be 98% which is still better than 99% of the people having to guard him.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Do you really think that's the only way one could guess about how long it will take to recover from an ACL injury?

He may be fine. I could certainly be wrong. However, I think it's being pretty optimistic he'll be back to being one of the best players in the SEC. He'll get there, I just think it's a bit of a stretch to think he'll be there by the start of next season, especially since he's out for Spring.
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I thought he would be ok for at least non-contact this spring. He's running already.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Do you know a bunch of guys who tore an ACL and were as good as ever the following year? Seriously, give me some examples if you have any. I'm not doubting you, I honestly don't know how many guys there are. I'm sure there are examples both ways.
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There are always cases that do not respond the way you would expect them to go but with a 19 yo kid in perfect physical health otherwise, with total access to best rehab facilities and therapists available I would say it is much more likely to expect an ideal result.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Do you know a bunch of guys who tore an ACL and were as good as ever the following year? Seriously, give me some examples if you have any. I'm not doubting you, I honestly don't know how many guys there are. I'm sure there are examples both ways.
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I cannot name any specific patients you would know but suffice it to say that from the experience I have and reading myriad case studies it should go as I have stated.
 
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Ashevillevol said:
I cannot name any specific patients you would know but suffice it to say that from the experience I have and reading myriad case studies it should go as I have stated.
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I'm sure you know what you're talking about as far as the injury, but just because he is no longer injured doesn't mean he'll be at the top of his game by the start of next football season. He has to completely recover, get into game shape, and get back into rhythm, too. My concern is due to the fact that athletes that have this injury seem to need more than a year to get back where they were. again, I could certainly be wrong, and I hope I am, but I don't see why people think it's a given that things will be just like they were.
 
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"shear strength"

Yeah sometimes you just see a player and imagine how forcefully they can remove the wool from a sheep.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'm sure you know what you're talking about as far as the injury, but just because he is no longer injured doesn't mean he'll be at the top of his game by the start of next football season. He has to completely recover, get into game shape, and get back into rhythm, too. My concern is due to the fact that athletes that have this injury seem to need more than a year to get back where they were. again, I could certainly be wrong, and I hope I am, but I don't see why people think it's a given that things will be just like they were.
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Ok, there is always a possibility. It is just not the most likely scenario. And after all that said, we all want him to be the same explosive player he was.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
I thought Bray said he already looks as good as he did going into the Florida game?

The advancement in fixing boo boos is amazing these days. You read about some athletes coming out better than they were prior to the injury. Run faster or jump higher. Probably not always the case but it's impressive what doctors can do today.
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witch doctor fixed him up he said he will be better:clapping:
 
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I had my ACL surgery in June and the ortho told me that I could start playing basketball, soccor, etc. (cutting sports) in another two months. He also stated that I'd need to wear my brace while playing for a year following that. Now, I'm not 19-20 years old, a high caliber athlete, and don't get PT everyday like Hunter does, but I'd say he'd be about 85% by the time the season rolls around. That would still put him in the top percentage of WRs in the SEC. The following year, if he stayed, he would be one of the best in the country. A lot of that first year getting back is mental because you don't trust you knee like you once did. He'll be fine though.
 
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rbell said:
I had my ACL surgery in June and the ortho told me that I could start playing basketball, soccor, etc. (cutting sports) in another two months. He also stated that I'd need to wear my brace while playing for a year following that. Now, I'm not 19-20 years old, a high caliber athlete, and don't get PT everyday like Hunter does, but I'd say he'd be about 85% by the time the season rolls around. That would still put him in the top percentage of WRs in the SEC. The following year, if he stayed, he would be one of the best in the country. A lot of that first year getting back is mental because you don't trust you knee like you once did. He'll be fine though.
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Orthopedic PA here. I am first assist on about 5-10 ACL/MCL surgeries a week. I am also in charge of the rehab for our office (we have a PT department, but they are considered separate).

I consult with a PT to devise a individual-specific rehab program and timetable post surgery.

If Hunter isn't 100% by the START of fall camp, something went wrong. A complication, etc. Medically, he's 'healed' at 6 months post-surgery considering all the rehab, etc. That means he can 100% resume activities. I'd give him another 60-120 days to reach his prior explosiveness if he can mentally 'trust it' (which can be an issue).

This topic has been covered numerous times and there are at least a few other medical guys (PT, maybe an MD) on this board who more or less agree with my timelines.
 
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Outdors21 said:
Orthopedic PA here. I am first assist on about 5-10 ACL/MCL surgeries a week. I am also in charge of the rehab for our office (we have a PT department, but they are considered separate).

I consult with a PT to devise a individual-specific rehab program and timetable post surgery.

If Hunter isn't 100% by the START of fall camp, something went wrong. A complication, etc. Medically, he's 'healed' at 6 months post-surgery considering all the rehab, etc. That means he can 100% resume activities. I'd give him another 60-120 days to reach his prior explosiveness if he can mentally 'trust it' (which can be an issue).

This topic has been covered numerous times and there are at least a few other medical guys (PT, maybe an MD) on this board who more or less agree with my timelines.
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I can see that, I know I'm not a 100%, but then again, I don't have the time to put towards PT like he does and/or the need really. I'm 34 and don't have a shot at professional sports ahead of me, so I take it at my own pace. I really think it's still the mental part that gets me worried about playing bball again.
 
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I will say this, and it is just an example of modern medicine. In 2001 I had a radical realignment of some bones in my foot that had become very misaligned due to overuse, stress, running, etc. This required actually moving tendons, ligaments and actually cutting and realigning bones. I sat in a wheel chair for six weeks, was in orthopedic boots for another 9 weeks after that. The first day I was cleared to run, I ran a 10k and was not but about a minute off of my best time. I think that recovery is dependent upon the health of the person going in (Hunter is a specimen), the quality of the surgery (do you doubt that UT would provide anything but the finest procedure?), and proper rehab (I spent about 2 hours a day in rehab, so I know he will be doing at least that or more). If mentally he has confidence in his ability, I don't see any reason why he couldn't be 100% at about a year out, but that is just an opinion based on an unrelated sports related surgery...
 
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rbell said:
I can see that, I know I'm not a 100%, but then again, I don't have the time to put towards PT like he does and/or the need really. I'm 34 and don't have a shot at professional sports ahead of me, so I take it at my own pace. I really think it's still the mental part that gets me worried about playing bball again.
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Did you have an autograft or an allograft?
 
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Every year it's the same story. We hype up freshman, only to be disappointed when they don't see the playing field. (i.e. how in the world can you say Croom and Bowles are representative of why we are WR U?) Expectations people. Lower them.
 
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