Update on Randy Shannon, DC

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rekinhavoc said:
I am beginning to wonder if it is Smart . Explains the wait .
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Nope. Not him. He just gave the AJC an interview saying he won't leave Bama for a coordinator job elsewhere. Only way he leaves Bama is for the right head coaching gig...his words, not mine.
 
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PLEASE let all of this madness end!! DD and Hart had better realize that it's in their best interest to make this announcement tomorrow, because if they don't, VN may have fewer members due to multiple members dying from heart attacks. :)
Skeeter, are you actually Lance Thompson, and are deliberately misleading VN w/ your late night post last night trying to thin some of the smoke @ the RS hire? Just a thought. Does anyone notice how there's all of a sudden a lot less talk about RS and more talk about other candidates?
Maybe RS will be our next DC and all the Zook rumors are kind of right, except that he didn't get a job with us as DC, but as one of the defensive position coaches...any takers? :)
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VolsFanRJ said:
Uh, doesn't Baylor have to outscore teams because their defense gives up so many points?
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Not necessarily. I thought I heard the other day that this years defense is a big product of Baylor's offense being so fast an efficient that their D was on the field a lot.

They said on the radio that historically Bennett's defenses are very good. I don't know where to find pasta nd present defensive rankings, though?
 
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If you read Larry's posts carefully, he is saying nothing that would preclude Shannon (or Zook, or someone else other than Steele) to be the next DC and that whoever it is will not be announced until after Monday. He is also saying that Dooley has not interviewed Shannon for the DC opening. As far as it goes, I believe he is technically correct, but I think the meat of this is in what he does not say, although he probably knows -- LWS is a very reliable source of information.

Dooley may well have talked with Shannon previously, either when Wilcox was thinking about the Texas job, or more recently when Wilcox was in the running for the ASU HC job. There also could have been many conversations between the two by phone, with or without video connections and with or without Hart as a participant.

Either way, two or three things are certain: 1) ultimately, this is a decision that will be made by Hart because only he can approve a multi-year deal (which will be mandatory) and only he would be able to approve a dollar amount in the range being discussed.

2) While Dooley may not have "interviewed" Shannon yet for this opening, it is without a shadow of a doubt that Tennessee has been in contact with Shannon, probably in the form of a small Tennessee team of negotiators and attorneys talking at length with Shannon's agent -- that is how these deals are done.

3) Tennessee by now would have at a minimum hashed out the details of the agreement for Shannon to become our DC, including length of the contract, salary, financial protection for him if Dooley were to be replaced, and the ability for Shannon to name at least one (likely two) of his own people as position coach(es) subject to the approval of Dooley and Hart. These position coaches are probably who Dooley will primarily be interviewing in San Antonio, although it is very possible that he and Shannon will meet there as well.

If for whatever reason the negotiations between Tennessee (primarily Hart) and Shannon reached an impasse and broke off because either Shannon or Tennessee could not agree with the demands of the other, then the entire process would have begun anew with whoever Tennessee wanted next -- probably, but not necessarily, Zook.

We will know for sure sometime this week, probably by Wednesday and whoever it is, it is virtually certain that the new DC has been identified and the deal has been struck.

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mlsoft is likely right on point with his observations; Give it a day or two and it will play itself out. Its funny how people get on here and work themselves into a frenzy over these things without realizing how much goes into the process. Its not as simple as calling coach Q and saying hey man you wanna come coach defense at Tennessee, I can pay you X and coach Q says why sure man I will be right over...........
We have only been in this process for six days (Wilcox left 1/2). We will have our man in place by day 10. Patience VolNation, patience.
 
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tombomcfaren said:
There is no way that Dooley is going to interview someone on Monday or Tuesday and have that finished up by Saturday. This hire has been done, and like you said the signing has to occur. I just don't see him ruining this recruiting weekend. If he does, then he is severely inept, and boy are we in trouble.
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Great post Tom. I agree. Biggest recruiting weekend of the year by far. Would be a monumental F up to not have that coaching position filled by then.
 
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Lol-people are starting to put a little TOO much emphasis on this hire. Teams of negotiators, misinformation,..we are not negotiating an arms treaty between countries here folks. Nobody, hired as a coordinator, is THIS important.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Rumors are being thrown out to keep the focus off the real person

Diversion tactics
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I hope that's true, but unfortunately I have this sinking suspicion that talks with Shannon have come to nothing and that Dooley is back searching for another DC...

Hopefully I am overly-worrying because of the lack of information coming out of the AD...

While coaching searches can be exciting, the past few years of them have made my constant refreshing of Volnation exhausting, and I look forward to a time when I won't have to worry about what Tennessee coaches are going where. Maybe one day in the future we will have a stable staff, and in future off-seasons Tennessee won't consistently be having coaching searches...
 
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LWSVOL said:
I don't think he is going to interview someone until they have an understanding on the principals of the deal, salary, length and buyout paramenters.

the contract will not be finalized for weeks if not months. a memo of understanding will be in place by announcement. I would be surprised if contract wouild be ready.

Dooley's first contract was not ready when he was announced.
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I agree about the MOU, but Dooley has to have interviewed at least one person
 
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If we are being logical about all these reports and Dooley interviewing people in San Antonio for the DC job, that means Shannon isn't the guy. You don't interview people for a job to which you have already filled.
 
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