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Our defense sucked so bad Tarik Black had a career night. How many times did we try to go inside and post him up on offense? That guy is a fouling machine and everyone but Martins knows it.

I agree with you that Coach Martin is doing what he can. I'm just pointing out that what he can do is not getting the job done. You even say we have talent that is underperforming. Four stars that suck and for some reason you see no accountability on the coach for that.

Maymon had 15 shots last night.

And those guys sucked in the past under Bruce Pearl.
 
And you can hop off your knees now, Bruce is gone. Sorry bud.

What are you talking about? Pearl is long gone. I liked him for being a winner, but I had no problem with his dismissal. You must be confused?
 
I agree with you that Coach Martin is doing what he can. I'm just pointing out that what he can do is not getting the job done. You even say we have talent that is underperforming. Four stars that suck and for some reason you see no accountability on the coach for that.
I would suggest that if you can't stomach watching a coach develop young talent you tune in again in February.
Don't miss it because we probably won't being playing that much in March.
It is what it is. A development year.
 
I have been watching a team that is outmatched against any decent team we play, but the effort has been there. They try, they just aren't good. It's like the football team in 2010. They try, they just suck.

Oh, last year, your boy Bruce last to CoC at home by double digits. Don't pull that crap. CoC is actually a decent team and during the broadcast the analyst said they are the favorite for the SoCon. And Memphis is a better team than us, and we lost at their place? It was within 10 for most of the game, and they pulled away late.

I get it. Your mad because we aren't going to win 20 games. Oh well. It's a rebuilding year. If we are doing the same things as next year, then it might be time to reevaluate things for the basketball program. Right now, I suggest you sit back and relax, and realize Martin is doing the best he can with the ****ty roster he was left with.

So I'm stupid for calling out Martin for being a terrible bench coach and game schemer. Yet you're so smart because you'll wait until next year to come to the same conclusion with a mountain of evidence in front of you right now?
 
So I'm stupid for calling out Martin for being a terrible bench coach and game schemer. Yet you're so smart because you'll wait until next year to come to the same conclusion with a mountain of evidence in front of you right now?

We don't know that at all. Did you think Dooley was a horrible coach in 2010 with that roster he had? Of course not.

Calipari isn't a great bench coach or game schemer, yet he wins 30 games a year.

Martin might have great schemes, and the players can't execute them. Actually, it's more likely than assuming after 15 games Martin is a joke of a coach.
 
I would suggest that if you can't stomach watching a coach develop young talent you tune in again in February.
Don't miss it because we probably won't being playing that much in March.
It is what it is. A development year.

This is college basketball. There is no such thing as a development year in a major conference.

But I'll humor the thought anyway. You really think Martin is "developing" our young talent? Feel free to point to any evidence of such a claim.
 
This is college basketball. There is no such thing as a development year in a major conference.

But I'll humor the thought anyway. You really think Martin is "developing" our young talent? Feel free to point to any evidence of such a claim.

Trae Golden and Jeronne Maymon are both better players than last year.

Skylar McBee can actually shoot the ball.

His three recruits are going to be solid contributors at Tennessee.

McRae has shown ability, just not consistent.
 
We don't know that at all. Did you think Dooley was a horrible coach in 2010 with that roster he had? Of course not.

Calipari isn't a great bench coach or game schemer, yet he wins 30 games a year.

Martin might have great schemes, and the players can't execute them. Actually, it's more likely than assuming after 15 games Martin is a joke of a coach.

So now you're saying Coach Martin might be developing great schemes that his team isn't capable of executing? This proves my point even more.

The guy has no identity for this team. He has no strengths, only weaknesses. And most on here are fine with making excuses for weaknesses and not holding the coach accountable for finding and using it's strengths.
 
Trae Golden and Jeronne Maymon are both better players than last year.

Skylar McBee can actually shoot the ball.

His three recruits are going to be solid contributors at Tennessee.

McRae has shown ability, just not consistent.

Maymon is the only improvement on the team. And that's because he got off his lazy rear and started working. But frankly, the last few games he is starting to revert back to lazy Maymon on the court. He was constantly gassed last night.
 
So now you're saying Coach Martin might be developing great schemes that his team isn't capable of executing? This proves my point even more.

The guy has no identity for this team. He has no strengths, only weaknesses. And most on here are fine with making excuses for weaknesses and not holding the coach accountable for finding and using it's strengths.

So you want him to have bad schemes his team can understand? Okay then.

Alright Coach, I hate the pull this card...

what would your identity with this team be?
 
Maymon is the only improvement on the team. And that's because he got off his lazy rear and started working. But frankly, the last few games he is starting to revert back to lazy Maymon on the court. He was constantly gassed last night.

Seriously? Skylar McBee is a better player than last year. Trae is better than last year. I totally forgot about Woolridge who actually is contributing, something he didn't do his first three years here.
 
Trae Golden and Jeronne Maymon are both better players than last year.

Skylar McBee can actually shoot the ball.

His three recruits are going to be solid contributors at Tennessee.

McRae has shown ability, just not consistent.

McRae looks like he has potential. I haven't seen any evidence at this point half way through the season that he's getting any better or more comfortable on the court.

McBee had a goose egg filled stat line for 16 minutes last night. Very frustrating from a guy that should be able to contribute something.
 
McRae looks like he has potential. I haven't seen any evidence at this point half way through the season that he's getting any better or more comfortable on the court.

McBee had a goose egg filled stat line for 16 minutes last night. Very frustrating from a guy that should be able to contribute something.

McBee can't have one bad game? He's been good for most of the season.

McRae is better. Just widly inconsistent. I think he'll have a big breakout year next year. JMO however.
 
Seriously? Skylar McBee is a better player than last year. Trae is better than last year. I totally forgot about Woolridge who actually is contributing, something he didn't do his first three years here.

Woolridge is accidentally contributing. He's never contributed because he'd get on the floor and do something stupid then hit the bench. Now, for some reason, he plays like he's encouraged to chunk up 3-pointers and somehow he makes a couple.

I think Trae is about the same - just playing 35 minutes rather than 10.

Somehow announcers have called Skylar a "three point specialist" his whole career. He's had a couple of games a season where he'll get hot and made some shots. His defense is still putrid.
 
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McBee can't have one bad game? He's been good for most of the season.

McRae is better. Just widly inconsistent. I think he'll have a big breakout year next year. JMO however.

I'll conceed McBee is improved. More minutes on the court has lead to more points for him - that's a good start.
 
Woolridge is accidentally contributing. He's never contributed because he'd get on the floor and do something stupid then hit the bench. Now, for some reason, he plays like he's encouraged to chunk up 3-pointers and somehow he makes a couple.

I think Trae is about the same - just playing 35 minutes rather than 10.

Somehow announcers have called Skylar a "three point specialist" his whole career. He's had a couple of games a season where he'll get hot and make some shots. His defense is still putrid.

Woolridge is better than the previous three years. That's evident. How is he accidentially contributing? And he's shooting 38.5% from three, isn't afraid to mix it up inside, and at least tries to rebound, something he never did under Pearl.

Trae has a better shot, and does a better job of getting to the basket.

Skylar is shooting 43.5% from three, and while isn't a good defender, he does a better job off ball than last year.
 
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McRae looks like he has potential. I haven't seen any evidence at this point half way through the season that he's getting any better or more comfortable on the court.

McBee had a goose egg filled stat line for 16 minutes last night. Very frustrating from a guy that should be able to contribute something.

Seriously? McBee is a stationary jump shooter. He can't create a shot off the dribble, slow on defense but he hustles. When playing superior athletes that are quick he get's exposed. It is what it is.
 
This is college basketball. There is no such thing as a development year in a major conference.

But I'll humor the thought anyway. You really think Martin is "developing" our young talent? Feel free to point to any evidence of such a claim.


I have told you before 95 not to use logic on the slurpers
it conflicts with their emotions.:)
 
This is college basketball. There is no such thing as a development year in a major conference.

But I'll humor the thought anyway. You really think Martin is "developing" our young talent? Feel free to point to any evidence of such a claim.
I think you're a bit naive to think that there's no such thing as a development year in high school, college or the pros.
Many of the best coaches have experienced them and many had losing seasons in the process.
If you want to acknowledge player development, look back at Yemi a few nights ago.
Here's a kid that started playing when he was 14, played limited minutes in HS and turns in a double double. Didn't even know what the term meant.
Can he do it consistently. Of course not, but that's what player development is about.
We've got youngsters getting quality minutes against some of the toughest teams in the country.
It will pay off in February and next season.
That's development.
 
Far superior? They had a similar record, and beat us by a point in double overtime earlier in this season. They may be a little better, but they're not "far superior"

Come on man, Memphis was a consensus Pre-Season Top 10 team. We didn't even sniff the Top 50. Now ,which team should be more dissapointed halfway through the season??
THe VOls?? I think NOT>
 
Woolridge is better than the previous three years. That's evident. How is he accidentially contributing? And he's shooting 38.5% from three, isn't afraid to mix it up inside, and at least tries to rebound, something he never did under Pearl.

Trae has a better shot, and does a better job of getting to the basket.

Skylar is shooting 43.5% from three, and while isn't a good defender, he does a better job off ball than last year.

McRae and Hall are huge disappointments. I thought McRae would be our leading scorer and he looks completely lost on offense unless he's shooting a crazy 3 point shot. Hall, what can you say?? 6'9" and plays like he is 5'8" and weighs 150 lbs. So soft....
 
I have told you before 95 not to use logic on the slurpers
it conflicts with their emotions.:)
Slurp Slurp
Here's your chance knowthevols since you're suddenly into logic.
How would you have won the game last night, or in Maui or even against AP?
Here's you're chance to give your logical explanation.
 
I think you're a bit naive to think that there's no such thing as a development year in high school, college or the pros.
Many of the best coaches have experienced them and many had losing seasons in the process.
If you want to acknowledge player development, look back at Yemi a few nights ago.
Here's a kid that started playing when he was 14, played limited minutes in HS and turns in a double double. Didn't even know what the term meant.
Can he do it consistently. Of course not, but that's what player development is about.
We've got youngsters getting quality minutes against some of the toughest teams in the country.
It will pay off in February and next season.
That's development.

We have an RPI of 273. We're not good and our schedule is worse.
 

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