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All Derek Dooley needed to do is vastly inferior opponent to have a successful season and he couldn't get it done. What happened the first 11 games is irrelevant, it came down to winning one football game to go to the post season and we played one of the worst games in our the 100 year history of our program. That game was all about coaching, 100%, and he was flat out dominated. Its beyond me that there are people in our fan base who are furious at other fans for questioning if he can get the job done. You'd have to be crazy not to.
 
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I agree. He completely lost the team when he needed it the most.

This wasn't the first time this team had quit either. That's a terrible, terrible thing to have happen to your program.
 
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He should have been fired on the spot for losing it. There's no possible excuse he can come up with for what happened other than that he is pathetic coach. How people continue to defend him after this past Saturday blows my mind.
 
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All Derek Dooley needed to do is vastly inferior opponent to have a successful season and he couldn't get it done. What happened the first 11 games is irrelevant, it came down to winning one football game to go to the post season and we played one of the worst games in our the 100 year history of our program. That game was all about coaching, 100%, and he was flat out dominated. Its beyond me that there are people in our fan base who are furious at other fans for questioning if he can get the job done. You'd have to be crazy not to.



Yeah, well, you know, that's just like your opinion, man....about the "all about coaching" thing.
 
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What happened the first 11 games is irrelevant, it came down to winning one football game.

That single minded thinking is the frustration. Why not see more than the scoreboard of one game(your words not mine) to judge the direction of the program? Bad days happen and programs do overcome.
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What a bunch of crap. Let's take a deeper dive: 4 points.

All of this hoopla is over 4 points, the amount needed to beat UK. The prior week VN was feeling much better. Dooley was "getting it done". After all, up until UK, we lost to EVERYONE we were supposed to lose to and beaten EVERYONE we should have. I know the scores were not pleasant at times but the bottom line is a W or L.

Prior to UK: we lost 6 games. 5 of them to teams in the top 12 in the BCS and 1 to Florida in the Swamp. You really think we were going to beat these teams with Fresh/Soph and no 2 deep? Really? Good Lord.

What about the players? If Palardy hits the chippy the score is at least tied. If the funble is called right UK never gets 7. If the idiot snaps the ball right we likely get 7 or 3 to tie. Blah blah blah. All of VN pissed over 4 points our players left on the field.

Of course the prior 26 years we rolled UK, right? And we really rolled them the last decade, right? Wrong.
2001: #6 Tennessee 38 - Kentucky 35 (Lexington)
2004: #15 Tennessee 37 - Kentucky 31 (Knoxville)
2006: #19 Tennessee 17 - Kentucky 12 (Knoxville)
2007: #19 Tennessee 52 - Kentucky 50 (4 OT) (Lexington)
2009: Tennessee 30 - Kentucky 24 (OT) (Lexington)

The streak over the last 10 years has continued by sheer luck. Look at those scores? This was coming and inevitable. The trend was apparent and statistics at some point was going to kick in by sheer probabilty.

So UK got us now by 3 at Lexington. Boo friggin' hoo. I have said this all over VN, if UT were a stock and DD a CEO, I would be buying it up from the VN morons left and right so I could sell it back to you in 3 years at much higher prices.
 
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Well as everyone knows we are young, inexperienced,no leadership, no talent, ugly, slow,fat,skinny and retarded...does this sum it up?
 
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It's true that fans were willing to give Dooley another year to see if he could find his footing before the Kentucky debacle. I'm sure that he was told that losing to UK was the one thing he could not do. And he owns it. Pulling Bray when he wasn't playing well could have changed the outcome.
 
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What a bunch of crap. Let's take a deeper dive: 4 points.

All of this hoopla is over 4 points, the amount needed to beat UK. The prior week VN was feeling much better. Dooley was "getting it done". After all, up until UK, we lost to EVERYONE we were supposed to lose to and beaten EVERYONE we should have. I know the scores were not pleasant at times but the bottom line is a W or L.

Prior to UK: we lost 6 games. 5 of them to teams in the top 12 in the BCS and 1 to Florida in the Swamp. You really think we were going to beat these teams with Fresh/Soph and no 2 deep? Really? Good Lord.

What about the players? If Palardy hits the chippy the score is at least tied. If the funble is called right UK never gets 7. If the idiot snaps the ball right we likely get 7 or 3 to tie. Blah blah blah. All of VN pissed over 4 points our players left on the field.

Of course the prior 26 years we rolled UK, right? And we really rolled them the last decade, right? Wrong.
2001: #6 Tennessee 38 - Kentucky 35 (Lexington)
2004: #15 Tennessee 37 - Kentucky 31 (Knoxville)
2006: #19 Tennessee 17 - Kentucky 12 (Knoxville)
2007: #19 Tennessee 52 - Kentucky 50 (4 OT) (Lexington)
2009: Tennessee 30 - Kentucky 24 (OT) (Lexington)

The streak over the last 10 years has continued by sheer luck. Look at those scores? This was coming and inevitable. The trend was apparent and statistics at some point was going to kick in by sheer probabilty.

So UK got us now by 3 at Lexington. Boo friggin' hoo. I have said this all over VN, if UT were a stock and DD a CEO, I would be buying it up from the VN morons left and right so I could sell it back to you in 3 years at much higher prices.

But we lost! I am embarrassed so badly that my rational thinking is gone. I praised DD for having control of that locker room after I saw that video but something changed so much in 7 days. I just can't handle losing to KY it must mean we should drop our football program.
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What a bunch of crap. Let's take a deeper dive: 4 points.

All of this hoopla is over 4 points, the amount needed to beat UK. The prior week VN was feeling much better. Dooley was "getting it done". After all, up until UK, we lost to EVERYONE we were supposed to lose to and beaten EVERYONE we should have. I know the scores were not pleasant at times but the bottom line is a W or L.

Prior to UK: we lost 6 games. 5 of them to teams in the top 12 in the BCS and 1 to Florida in the Swamp. You really think we were going to beat these teams with Fresh/Soph and no 2 deep? Really? Good Lord.

What about the players? If Palardy hits the chippy the score is at least tied. If the funble is called right UK never gets 7. If the idiot snaps the ball right we likely get 7 or 3 to tie. Blah blah blah. All of VN pissed over 4 points our players left on the field.

Of course the prior 26 years we rolled UK, right? And we really rolled them the last decade, right? Wrong.
2001: #6 Tennessee 38 - Kentucky 35 (Lexington)
2004: #15 Tennessee 37 - Kentucky 31 (Knoxville)
2006: #19 Tennessee 17 - Kentucky 12 (Knoxville)
2007: #19 Tennessee 52 - Kentucky 50 (4 OT) (Lexington)
2009: Tennessee 30 - Kentucky 24 (OT) (Lexington)

The streak over the last 10 years has continued by sheer luck. Look at those scores? This was coming and inevitable. The trend was apparent and statistics at some point was going to kick in by sheer probabilty.

So UK got us now by 3 at Lexington. Boo friggin' hoo. I have said this all over VN, if UT were a stock and DD a CEO, I would be buying it up from the VN morons left and right so I could sell it back to you in 3 years at much higher prices.

The damning thing isn't that we lost. The damning thing is that the tone of that game was set in the first quarter, and Dooley and his coaches (at least on offense) were powerless to change it. They might as well not even have been in the stadium for all the influence on the game they were apparently able to have.
 
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Manning can't rescue faltering UT

Offense stalls without running game
Ron Higgins
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Posted November 10, 1996 at midnight

The Vols couldn't run to jump-start the offense and Manning couldn't pass enough to bail out his team as Memphis, a 26-point underdog, pulled off a 21-17 upset.

With a faltering running game in recent weeks, Manning had made game-deciding plays to help the Volunteers beat Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina. But his magic didn't work against the gritty Tigers, who held Tennessee to 85 rushing yards and intercepted Manning twice on plays that proved to be a possible two-touchdown swing.

''The burden shouldn't fall on one player,'' said Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer, referring to Manning. The lack of a running game had ''about been ready to bite us in the rear for several weeks, and it did tonight. We had good plays, but we couldn't get ahead down- and distance-wise.''

Penalties, turnovers and a solid, well-executed Memphis defensive scheme paralyzed the Vols' offense and kept them from making big plays when needed. Tennessee had six penalties for 66 yards and two turnovers.

A ledger of the Vols' downfall:

-- The Vols, leading 7-0 late in the first quarter, had a first-and-one at the Memphis 13. The series ended with a punt on fourth-and-30 from the Memphis 33 after a holding penalty and a sack of Manning by Marquis Bowling.

-- Still ahead 7-0, Manning tried to slip a quick slant to Joey Kent on first-and-10 at the Memphis 28. Tiger free safety Keith Spann intercepted and returned the ball 76 yards to the 1. Then U of M quarterback Qadry Anderson sneaked in for the TD 2:49 before halftime.

''Joey took an inside route because they were playing outside coverage and I tried to force it,'' Manning said. ''I should have waited for him to run clear.''

-- After a first-and-goal at the Memphis 4 with six minutes left in the third quarter, a holding call put the Vols back to the 11, where Manning forced a third down pass into the waiting arms of the Tigers' Duron Sutton.

''We usually throw most of our balls to the weak side, and they took that completely away from us,'' said Vols' receiver Marcus Nash, who became Manning's primary target after Kent was sidelined after the first series of the second half with a hamstring injury.

-- Finally, on third-and-one at the Memphis 11 with just more than six minutes to play, running back Jay Graham is thrown for a 1-yard loss on a play Fulmer said ''we've made first downs on for a hundred years.'' On fourth-and-two, Fulmer played it safe and ordered placekicker Jeff Hall to kick a 28-yard field goal for a 17-14 Vols' lead with 6:01 to play.

''They twisted their tackles and ends, and did a nice job of confusing our line,'' said Graham. He gained 63 yards on 27 carries and scored on an 11-yard Manning pass for a 14-7 Tennessee lead with 8:51 left in the third quarter. ''We knew they had a great defense and we needed to minimize our mistakes, but we didn't.''

Manning, who completed 23-of-40 passes for 296 yards, said he has said for weeks that if the Vols can't run, it's hard to throw.

''If you can't run . . . you can't pass . . . and you can't win,'' Manning said. ''Memphis played a lot of eight-man coverage and you have to be able to run the ball. They beat our guys off the blocks, made plays and put us in some tough downs and distances.''


a little perspective on ky loss it has been worse.
 
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Manning can't rescue faltering UT

Offense stalls without running game
Ron Higgins
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Posted November 10, 1996 at midnight

Tennessee dreaded the day that virtually infallible quarterback Peyton Manning couldn't carry the Vols' offense.
That day arrived Saturday in Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium, and it couldn't have come at a more inopportune time or against a more unlikely opponent.

The Vols couldn't run to jump-start the offense and Manning couldn't pass enough to bail out his team as Memphis, a 26-point underdog, pulled off a 21-17 upset.

With a faltering running game in recent weeks, Manning had made game-deciding plays to help the Volunteers beat Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina. But his magic didn't work against the gritty Tigers, who held Tennessee to 85 rushing yards and intercepted Manning twice on plays that proved to be a possible two-touchdown swing.

''The burden shouldn't fall on one player,'' said Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer, referring to Manning. The lack of a running game had ''about been ready to bite us in the rear for several weeks, and it did tonight. We had good plays, but we couldn't get ahead down- and distance-wise.''

Penalties, turnovers and a solid, well-executed Memphis defensive scheme paralyzed the Vols' offense and kept them from making big plays when needed. Tennessee had six penalties for 66 yards and two turnovers.

A ledger of the Vols' downfall:

-- The Vols, leading 7-0 late in the first quarter, had a first-and-one at the Memphis 13. The series ended with a punt on fourth-and-30 from the Memphis 33 after a holding penalty and a sack of Manning by Marquis Bowling.

-- Still ahead 7-0, Manning tried to slip a quick slant to Joey Kent on first-and-10 at the Memphis 28. Tiger free safety Keith Spann intercepted and returned the ball 76 yards to the 1. Then U of M quarterback Qadry Anderson sneaked in for the TD 2:49 before halftime.

''Joey took an inside route because they were playing outside coverage and I tried to force it,'' Manning said. ''I should have waited for him to run clear.''

-- After a first-and-goal at the Memphis 4 with six minutes left in the third quarter, a holding call put the Vols back to the 11, where Manning forced a third down pass into the waiting arms of the Tigers' Duron Sutton.

''We usually throw most of our balls to the weak side, and they took that completely away from us,'' said Vols' receiver Marcus Nash, who became Manning's primary target after Kent was sidelined after the first series of the second half with a hamstring injury.

-- Finally, on third-and-one at the Memphis 11 with just more than six minutes to play, running back Jay Graham is thrown for a 1-yard loss on a play Fulmer said ''we've made first downs on for a hundred years.'' On fourth-and-two, Fulmer played it safe and ordered placekicker Jeff Hall to kick a 28-yard field goal for a 17-14 Vols' lead with 6:01 to play.

''They twisted their tackles and ends, and did a nice job of confusing our line,'' said Graham. He gained 63 yards on 27 carries and scored on an 11-yard Manning pass for a 14-7 Tennessee lead with 8:51 left in the third quarter. ''We knew they had a great defense and we needed to minimize our mistakes, but we didn't.''

Manning, who completed 23-of-40 passes for 296 yards, said he has said for weeks that if the Vols can't run, it's hard to throw.

''If you can't run . . . you can't pass . . . and you can't win,'' Manning said. ''Memphis played a lot of eight-man coverage and you have to be able to run the ball. They beat our guys off the blocks, made plays and put us in some tough downs and distances.''


a little perspective on ky loss it has been worse.

And the program survived and even won a few games after that!!
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Manning can't rescue faltering UT

Offense stalls without running game
Ron Higgins
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Posted November 10, 1996 at midnight

The Vols couldn't run to jump-start the offense and Manning couldn't pass enough to bail out his team as Memphis, a 26-point underdog, pulled off a 21-17 upset.

With a faltering running game in recent weeks, Manning had made game-deciding plays to help the Volunteers beat Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina. But his magic didn't work against the gritty Tigers, who held Tennessee to 85 rushing yards and intercepted Manning twice on plays that proved to be a possible two-touchdown swing.

''The burden shouldn't fall on one player,'' said Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer, referring to Manning. The lack of a running game had ''about been ready to bite us in the rear for several weeks, and it did tonight. We had good plays, but we couldn't get ahead down- and distance-wise.''

Penalties, turnovers and a solid, well-executed Memphis defensive scheme paralyzed the Vols' offense and kept them from making big plays when needed. Tennessee had six penalties for 66 yards and two turnovers.

A ledger of the Vols' downfall:

-- The Vols, leading 7-0 late in the first quarter, had a first-and-one at the Memphis 13. The series ended with a punt on fourth-and-30 from the Memphis 33 after a holding penalty and a sack of Manning by Marquis Bowling.

-- Still ahead 7-0, Manning tried to slip a quick slant to Joey Kent on first-and-10 at the Memphis 28. Tiger free safety Keith Spann intercepted and returned the ball 76 yards to the 1. Then U of M quarterback Qadry Anderson sneaked in for the TD 2:49 before halftime.

''Joey took an inside route because they were playing outside coverage and I tried to force it,'' Manning said. ''I should have waited for him to run clear.''

-- After a first-and-goal at the Memphis 4 with six minutes left in the third quarter, a holding call put the Vols back to the 11, where Manning forced a third down pass into the waiting arms of the Tigers' Duron Sutton.

''We usually throw most of our balls to the weak side, and they took that completely away from us,'' said Vols' receiver Marcus Nash, who became Manning's primary target after Kent was sidelined after the first series of the second half with a hamstring injury.

-- Finally, on third-and-one at the Memphis 11 with just more than six minutes to play, running back Jay Graham is thrown for a 1-yard loss on a play Fulmer said ''we've made first downs on for a hundred years.'' On fourth-and-two, Fulmer played it safe and ordered placekicker Jeff Hall to kick a 28-yard field goal for a 17-14 Vols' lead with 6:01 to play.

''They twisted their tackles and ends, and did a nice job of confusing our line,'' said Graham. He gained 63 yards on 27 carries and scored on an 11-yard Manning pass for a 14-7 Tennessee lead with 8:51 left in the third quarter. ''We knew they had a great defense and we needed to minimize our mistakes, but we didn't.''

Manning, who completed 23-of-40 passes for 296 yards, said he has said for weeks that if the Vols can't run, it's hard to throw.

''If you can't run . . . you can't pass . . . and you can't win,'' Manning said. ''Memphis played a lot of eight-man coverage and you have to be able to run the ball. They beat our guys off the blocks, made plays and put us in some tough downs and distances.''


a little perspective on ky loss it has been worse.


I've been arguing this since the UK game, but it doesn't matter, as most folks around here are either too young or too blind to see it for what it is.
Do l expect our Vols to win every time they take the field? Of course! Do I truly believe they will win every game? Of course not, it's just not realistic!
Most posters on here have borderline delusional expectations about UT football, and really need to get a grip on the reality of our situation.
 
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Its beyond me that there are people in our fan base who are furious at other fans for questioning if he can get the job done. You'd have to be crazy not to

And...I was just wondering if you had anything new to add to this discussion because it's not like I haven't read this before. I'm not furious; I just don't see what the point is when it's already been posted.
 
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That single minded thinking is the frustration. Why not see more than the scoreboard of one game(your words not mine) to judge the direction of the program? Bad days happen and programs do overcome.
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We just lost to a UK team that didn't even have a QB on their roster. How in god's name can you say that the program is heading in the right direction?
 
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He should have been fired on the spot for losing it. There's no possible excuse he can come up with for what happened other than that he is pathetic coach. How people continue to defend him after this past Saturday blows my mind.

It's understandable. But all you can do is wait until 2012 when he has a majority of his players and a full roster. If it isn't a significant improvement then you can be satisfied knowing you were right.
 
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We just lost to a UK team that didn't even have a QB on their roster. How in god's name can you say that the program is heading in the right direction?

Your in the one game crowd. Look at the big picture including roster, depth, age, injuries, recruiting, ....ect. I am sure since you feel that a QB won a 10-7 game you aren't capable of looking that deep.
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It's understandable. But all you can do is wait until 2012 when he has a majority of his players and a full roster. If it isn't a significant improvement then you can be satisfied knowing you were right.

I honestly don't see what the point of waiting is though. After Saturday, we now have every bit of information we will ever need to know about DD. He can't even beat vastly inferior teams in must win games and is working on a 2nd straight recruiting class that will be in the middle of the SEC pack. What's the point of keeping someone like that around?

I realize that he'll almost certainly be here next season, but I just don't see how letting him stay here and suck for one more season does the program any good in the long run. If we canned him now, we would obviously take a hit in the short term, but with the right hire, we could get back on the right track a year sooner.
 
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Your in the one game crowd. Look at the big picture including roster, depth, age, injuries, recruiting, ....ect. I am sure since you feel that a QB won a 10-7 game you aren't capable of looking that deep.
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What are you talking about? The winning team didn't even have a QB.

DD has shown he isn't capable of winning games against teams that have superior talent, and sometimes can't even beat lesser teams, so how can you say that he will be successful given his level of recruiting? His recruiting abilities guarantee that in most seasons, at least half the SEC teams he faces will have superior talent to his own. That's not exactly the makings of a champion.
 
#24
#24
What are you talking about? The winning team didn't even have a QB.

DD has shown he isn't capable of winning games against teams that have superior talent, and sometimes can't even beat lesser teams, so how can you say that he will be successful given his level of recruiting? His recruiting abilities guarantee that in most seasons, at least half the SEC teams he faces will have superior talent to his own. That's not exactly the makings of a champion.

You stated the QB in your one game analysis not me.

The intelligent stance against DD even admits DD is doing a very good job of rebuilding our roster from shambles thru very good recruiting. Once you take your blinders on from losing ONE game to a team that didn't have a QB then there are plenty other stances you can take that backs you opinion but so far you are just another one game over-reactor!
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Kind of ironic that the Memphis QB in 96 was nothing more than a glorified WR and they ended up beating us when he had far more talent than we have now.

Upsets happen and they stink for the team getting beat. The next time was played Memphis was 1999 with arguably our most talented roster ever and we had to score with under a minute to go to win that game at home.
 

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