Stereotypically Tenn. is.........

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JAllen18MVP said:
According to the official stats from ncaasports.com, UT had 162 third downs this year, and they converted on 78 of those third downs. That is good enough for 48.2% and 9th in the nation.
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Oh those darn stats.

Put this is in the same category as the people who think every pass under 5 yards is a screen, every 3rd down run is a bad idea etc.
 
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MG1968 said:
does it say how many of those third downs were converted against UF, Arkansas, LSU and Penn State? There was one in particular against UF that UT didn't convert and it pretty much cost UT the game.
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Well, there was a 51.8% chance we wouldn't...
 
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SWIL said:
yeah, but at the same time, Florida has 3 big-time programs all battling in the same pond. The Vols have to contend with.....Vanderbilt :ermm:
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Ole Miss is closer to Memphis than Memphis is to Knoxville. Alabama is closer to some southern parts of middle TN than Knoxville is. We have to contend with both of those schools for our in-state talent because they might have grown up Rebels or Tide fans.
 
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MG1968 said:
does it say how many of those third downs were converted against UF, Arkansas, LSU and Penn State? There was one in particular against UF that UT didn't convert and it pretty much cost UT the game.
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This is the dumbest post I've read in a while. Don't you just think maybe, just maybe the NCAA stats for all schools use ALL the 3rd downs by ALL schools? In other words I am willing to wager that the 3rd downs UF had against say, South Florida school of the blind were counted or LSU against some fo the LA directional schools. You have no case. Facts should shut you up but it wont.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
This is the dumbest post I've read in a while. Don't you just think maybe, just maybe the NCAA stats for all schools use ALL the 3rd downs by ALL schools? In other words I am willing to wager that the 3rd downs UF had against say, South Florida school of the blind were counted or LSU against some fo the LA directional schools. You have no case. Facts should shut you up but it wont.
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:good!:
 
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VolBeef88 said:
This is the dumbest post I've read in a while. Don't you just think maybe, just maybe the NCAA stats for all schools use ALL the 3rd downs by ALL schools? In other words I am willing to wager that the 3rd downs UF had against say, South Florida school of the blind were counted or LSU against some fo the LA directional schools. You have no case. Facts should shut you up but it wont.
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I concur
 
#32
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VolBeef88 said:
This is the dumbest post I've read in a while. Don't you just think maybe, just maybe the NCAA stats for all schools use ALL the 3rd downs by ALL schools? In other words I am willing to wager that the 3rd downs UF had against say, South Florida school of the blind were counted or LSU against some fo the LA directional schools. You have no case. Facts should shut you up but it wont.
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So, going doing exceptionally well on third down against the Vanderbilts and Memphis types of the world, then converting a putrid percentage against Florida is OK? The poster simply asked how did we do on third down against the actual good teams we played. Then, in your typical Pavlovian response to prop up King Fulamanure, you attack him. Beating up the weaklings on your schedule, then not getting it done against the good teams is how a team ends up in Atlanta or Tampa for the holidays. Oh, I forgot. Those who adore Phillip Haystacks are OK with that.
 
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hatvol96 said:
So, going doing exceptionally well on third down against the Vanderbilts and Memphis types of the world, then converting a putrid percentage against Florida is OK? The poster simply asked how did we do on third down against the actual good teams we played. Then, in your typical Pavlovian response to prop up King Fulamanure, you attack him. Beating up the weaklings on your schedule, then not getting it done against the good teams is how a team ends up in Atlanta or Tampa for the holidays. Oh, I forgot. Those who adore Phillip Haystacks are OK with that.
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Nice try counselor. But you know well what I was stating. All 3rd down % of all schools are based on all teams played by all schools. NEXT!

In other words, Florida's patsies counted towards their % on 3rd as well. :eek:k:
 
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VolBeef88 said:
This is the dumbest post I've read in a while. Don't you just think maybe, just maybe the NCAA stats for all schools use ALL the 3rd downs by ALL schools? In other words I am willing to wager that the 3rd downs UF had against say, South Florida school of the blind were counted or LSU against some fo the LA directional schools. You have no case. Facts should shut you up but it wont.
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wow, I just asked a question and get your panties wadded up over it.

I'm not arguing over facts. I'd just like to know what our 3rd down conversion rate was in games that UT lost. If they're consistent with games UT won, then that answers my question.
 
#35
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VolBeef88 said:
Nice try counselor. But you know well what I was stating. All 3rd down % of all schools are based on all teams played by all schools. NEXT!
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That wasn't the posters question, which made your post so absurd. That's typical for you guys. I'm stunned you or one of the other stat worshippers didn't break out Fulamanure's winning percentage in games played in November, against teams with losing records, who were not QB'd by Jay Cutler. The poster made a prescient, insightful point about this program's inability to produce in games of substance. You can rant and insult him all you want. That won't change the fact he is 100% correct.
 
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hatvol96 said:
That wasn't the posters question, which made your post so absurd. That's typical for you guys. I'm stunned you or one of the other stat worshippers didn't break out Fulamanure's winning percentage in games played in November, against teams with losing records, who were not QB'd by Jay Cutler. The poster made a prescient, insightful point about this program's inability to produce in games of substance. You can rant and insult him all you want. That won't change the fact he is 100% correct.
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We are just worshipers of captain stats, cant win a big game manning also. Remember?

The point was made that UT was not good on 3rd down. Facts showed different and yet still an attempt to say something negative about UT was posted. And I have to admit I am shocked you jumped to his defense. :)
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Nice try counselor. But you know well what I was stating. All 3rd down % of all schools are based on all teams played by all schools. NEXT!

In other words, Florida's patsies counted towards their % on 3rd as well. :eek:k:
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Florida won the National Title. That's the only thing I need to know about them. I don't need a bunch of garbage numbers, distorted by games against people like Memphis. The Gators ended the season holding the Sears Trophy. UT finished up by getting their a$$es handed to them by a mediocre team in a garbage bowl. That's the relevant comparison.
 
#38
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MG1968 said:
wow, I just asked a question and get your panties wadded up over it.

I'm not arguing over facts. I'd just like to know what our 3rd down conversion rate was in games that UT lost. If they're consistent with games UT won, then that answers my question.
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I thought it was a stupid post. If that hurt your feelings then it's your fault for having feelings. :)
 
#39
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hatvol96 said:
Florida won the National Title. That's the only thing I need to know about them. I don't need a bunch of garbage numbers, distorted by games against people like Memphis. The Gators ended the season holding the Sears Trophy. UT finished up by getting their a$$es handed to them by a mediocre team in a garbage bowl. That's the relevant comparison.
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Switch devert and change the subject. You are a lawyer after all!

The point was made that UT was bad on 3rd downs. FACTS showed different. You can want it to be different all you want but it is what it is.

Now if you wanna talk about how the season ended start another topic. As for this one. You lose.
 
#42
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VolBeef88 said:
We are just worshipers of captain stats, cant win a big game manning also. Remember?

The point was made that UT was not good on 3rd down. Facts showed different and yet still an attempt to say something negative about UT was posted. And I have to admit I am shocked you jumped to his defense. :)
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I have to laugh at the Manningophles. A friend of mine down here made a great point. UT fans look like either incurable rubes or goofball bigots over this whole Manning thing. A good portion of the fan base is acting as if he is the only player ever to make the NFL from UT. Fans of the "U" or Ohio State, or any other real football school would never act this silly because an alum won a Super Bowl. Now, 2 questions. 1. Does the result of Super Bowl XLI change Captain Stats record against the University of Florida? 2. What did you predict the score of this year's UT-Florida game to be?
 
#43
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hatvol96 said:
I have to laugh at the Manningophles. A friend of mine down here made a great point. UT fans look like either incurable rubes or goofball bigots over this whole Manning thing. A good portion of the fan base is acting as if he is the only player ever to make the NFL from UT. Fans of the "U" or Ohio State, or any other real football school would never act this silly because an alum won a Super Bowl. Now, 2 questions. 1. Does the result of Super Bowl XLI change Captain Stats record against the University of Florida? 2. What did you predict the score of this year's UT-Florida game to be?
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I missed the UF UT score bigtime. Manning is the BIGGEST thing in the NFL since Montana (and maybe bigger) and you nor your thug worshiping U fans can change that. As far as PM and Florida goes. Nope not a bit but does it really matter? The all time leading rusher of the NFL went to UF and on his worst day Manning is bigger than him or anyone else to ever wear a gator uni. Try as you might hate.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Switch devert and change the subject. You are a lawyer after all!

The point was made that UT was bad on 3rd downs. FACTS showed different. You can want it to be different all you want but it is what it is.

Now if you wanna talk about how the season ended start another topic. As for this one. You lose.
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No, you attacked a guy for asking a question, which made a legitimate point. By your silly logic, a guy who scores 4 TDs against Vandy and 0 TDs against Florida is averaging 2 TDs, which is really good. Bill Parcells had the best line I ever saw about stats: "Their sole purpose is to allow people who know absolutely nothing about a sport to pretend they do."
 
#45
#45
what fact was I apparently not liking? what is wrong with wondering about 3rd down conversion percentage in specific games?

Ranking 9th or 10th nationally in 3rd down conversions is good. Top 10 finishes in a field of over 100 is something to be proud of. I never, ever said that that wasn't good enough, but you took it to mean something I didn't intend.

If UT's conversion % against UF was 60%, what could you say then? Well, you could infer that the offense did enough to win, but the defense failed. If it was below 48.9% you could infer that too many 3 and outs kept UF's offense on the field.

Do you see my point yet?
 
#46
#46
VolBeef88 said:
I missed the UF UT score bigtime. Manning is the BIGGEST thing in the NFL since Montana (and maybe bigger) and you nor your thug worshiping U fans can change that. As far as PM and Florida goes. Nope not a bit but does it really matter? The all time leading rusher of the NFL went to UF and on his worst day Manning is bigger than him or anyone else to ever wear a gator uni. Try as you might hate.
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manning is the biggest thing in the NFL to you. to me. i take LT over manning everytime as the biggest thing. take off your orange glasses beef. you're close to winning this one
 
#47
#47
hatvol96 said:
No, you attacked a guy for asking a question, which made a legitimate point. By your silly logic, a guy who scores 4 TDs against Vandy and 0 TDs against Florida is averaging 2 TDs, which is really good. Bill Parcells had the best line I ever saw about stats: "Their sole purpose is to allow people who know absolutely nothing about a sport to pretend they do."
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Keep trying yet you get no where and I know that makes you mad. The post was that UT was bad on 3rd downs. Nothing else. Facts (which I'm sure you hate when they are not your way) showed different. You can try to change it, want to change it but it is fact that UT was not bad on 3rd downs. Now if you wanna start a new thread about how UT is not as great as the helmet slinging drive by U then feel free.
 
#48
#48
volfanbill said:
manning is the biggest thing in the NFL to you. to me. i take LT over manning everytime as the biggest thing. take off your orange glasses beef. you're close to winning this one
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Not just to me. How many Commercials do you see LT doing? How many jersey's does PM sell? He is the biggest thing to hit the NFL in many, many years. It doesn't matter where he went to school. It just so happens he wore Big Orange and I think that is cool.
 
#49
#49
VolBeef88 said:
I missed the UF UT score bigtime. Manning is the BIGGEST thing in the NFL since Montana (and maybe bigger) and you nor your thug worshiping U fans can change that. As far as PM and Florida goes. Nope not a bit but does it really matter? The all time leading rusher of the NFL went to UF and on his worst day Manning is bigger than him or anyone else to ever wear a gator uni. Try as you might hate.
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1. He's not bigger than Tom Brady. He just does more mass promotion, because his hick, golly gee act appeals to Joe Six Pack. Emmit Smith has triple the rings that rube does. When Manning does an ad for a true high end product, call me.
2. I love how people like you act as if his NFL success somehow covers his failures in college. Manning is the UT version of David Koresh. Now, run along. You probably need to get all the Manning merchandise you can before they ship it to the outlets in Pigeon Forge for distribution to the masses of mouthbreathers.
 
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hatvol96 said:
No, you attacked a guy for asking a question, which made a legitimate point. By your silly logic, a guy who scores 4 TDs against Vandy and 0 TDs against Florida is averaging 2 TDs, which is really good. Bill Parcells had the best line I ever saw about stats: "Their sole purpose is to allow people who know absolutely nothing about a sport to pretend they do."
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Loved the Tuna quote...and to the point of percentages of success I'm just gonna guess thats where the term Quality Win came from, this battle has been fought before.
 
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