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#151
oh wow. can you imagine how lights out crazy good brohm would be right now after having Cut for a year? holy crap.
 
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#152
volfanbill said:
dumbest theory ever. last time i checked, texas isn't having any trouble creating successful qb's. you can't assume simms would've been a lot better had he came to rocky top.
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Manning and Simms were very similar out of HS - great pedigree, lots of hype, big numbers, unreal expectations.

Simms didn't develop in college. He was struggling with Major Applewhite for God's sake. With the right coaching he could be far advanced in his pro career.

And yes, Brohm would be in number 1 pick conversations had he played for Cut. Instead he probably won't be in the first round.

Edit: My bad- I was thinking Brohm (another UT quitter) decided to forego. He'll be back so we'll have another year of him getting hurt.
 
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#153
Please, lets not compare Peyton with Chrissy Sims. Peyton gladly accepted the challenge to play for the miserable Colts (before ya start I realize they had the #1 pick, thus a lot of money. Wait a minute didn't another QB refuse to play for the Colts?) while Chrissy backed out of his verbal commitment to Tennessee when he realized he might have some competition on the Hill. Apples and oranges folks.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
Please, lets not compare Peyton with Chrissy Sims. Peyton gladly accepted the challenge to play for the miserable Colts (before ya start I realize they had the #1 pick, thus a lot of money. Wait a minute didn't another QB refuse to play for the Colts?) while Chrissy backed out of his verbal commitment to Tennessee when he realized he might have some competition on the Hill. Apples and oranges folks.
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Not quite apples and oranges, unless you mean applewhites and big orange slices...
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Take a similar situation, Chris Simms. If he had stayed at UT (the real one) for four years under Cut, he would be a better QB today.

If PM had been coached by any other QB coach, his career would have been different. )
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and you can prove this how?
 
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#157
I must say, I've seen a whole bunch of things that make me laugh around here. However, IE 95 trying to give David Crapcliffe credit for Heath Shuler being in Congress takes the prize. It wasn't 6 years of bad foreign policy by Bush, Chaney, Rumsfeld, et al. It was Crapcliffe teaching him how not to read complex defenses that carried ol no. 21 to Washington.
 
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Leonard Little and Dwayne Goodrich went on to kill people after they left UT. Do the coaches get credit for that? Brandon Stewart went from highly rated prospect to complete afterthought at A&M. Why didn't Crapcliffe's brilliance rub off on him?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Leonard Little and Dwayne Goodrich went on to kill people after they left UT. Do the coaches get credit for that? Brandon Stewart went from highly rated prospect to complete afterthought at A&M. Why didn't Crapcliffe's brilliance rub off on him?
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Get credit for things completely unrelated to football? I'm not sure people relate that back to the program, but I assure you that the athletic department at UT has fielded some pretty tough questions about the transgressions of its players, especially those of Little.

Stewart, very short time in the program and relegated to backup role. Not to mention he just wasn't that talented upstairs.
 
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#160
That's my point. Heath Shuler being elected to the House and Little/Goodrich killing people are equally attributable to the staff at UT. Which is to say, not at all. The last time I checked, those guys are adults with free will.
 
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hatvol96 said:
That's my point. Heath Shuler being elected to the House and Little/Goodrich killing people are equally attributable to the staff at UT. Which is to say, not at all. The last time I checked, those guys are adults with free will.
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Oh, I thought you were applying it something else. Shuler being elected having something to do with the staff at UT, absolutely silly.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I must say, I've seen a whole bunch of things that make me laugh around here. However, IE 95 trying to give David Crapcliffe credit for Heath Shuler being in Congress takes the prize. It wasn't 6 years of bad foreign policy by Bush, Chaney, Rumsfeld, et al. It was Crapcliffe teaching him how not to read complex defenses that carried ol no. 21 to Washington.
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You hate UT and everything they have, had, and will have. I understand that, most people on here understand that. I really think you understand my point, but turn it around take pieces out of context to accuse me of giving DC credit for HS being in congress.

I'll give this one more effort, eventhough I realize I am talking to a brick here - The coaching staff at UT gets credit for preparing HS to be the 3rd pick in the NFL draft. UT as an institution gets credit for HS success in real estate and politics after his NFL career was cut short.
 
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#164
Then I guess the institution gets credit for the Little/Goodrich body counts? Your typical, lame homer reaction is about par for the course. Anyone who is objective about UT obviously hates the entire institution. I have contributed, both in time and other means, more to the University in the last 12 months than you will in your entire existence. Now, go back to trying to concoct ludicrous scenarios to fluff up a medicore coaching staff that has led the Vols to the moribund level where the program currently resides.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Then I guess the institution gets credit for the Little/Goodrich body counts? Your typical, lame homer reaction is about par for the course. Anyone who is objective about UT obviously hates the entire institution. I have contributed, both in time and other means, more to the University in the last 12 months than you will in your entire existence. Now, go back to trying to concoct ludicrous scenarios to fluff up a medicore coaching staff that has led the Vols to the moribund level where the program currently resides.
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What do you love about the University of Tennessee?

You wouldn't contribute if you didn't love something about the school, so I am curious to hear what makes you proud to be a Tennessee Volunteer.
 
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#166
UT is the flagship institution in the state. It does a tremendous job of providing a quality education at an affordable price for the residents of the state. The current administration is doing a good job of elevating standards and slowly improving the academic facilities. I have great affection for the University that provided me with two degrees that have afforded me the opportunity and ability to earn a quality living. In fact, the only real problems I see at UT now are a semicompetent football coaching staff and the homers who continue to live in the increasingly distant past in a pathetic attempt to prop up King Fulamanure and His Court of Jesters.
 
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hatvol96 said:
UT is the flagship institution in the state. It does a tremendous job of providing a quality education at an affordable price for the residents of the state. The current administration is doing a good job of elevating standards and slowly improving the academic facilities. I have great affection for the University that provided me with two degrees that have afforded me the opportunity and ability to earn a quality living. In fact, the only real problems I see at UT now are a semicompetent football coaching staff and the homers who continue to live in the increasingly distant past in a pathetic attempt to prop up King Fulamanure and His Court of Jesters.
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:eek:lol: not at the context, but the dramatic flare is unquestionably hatvol.
 
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hatvol96 said:
UT is the flagship institution in the state. It does a tremendous job of providing a quality education at an affordable price for the residents of the state. The current administration is doing a good job of elevating standards and slowly improving the academic facilities. I have great affection for the University that provided me with two degrees that have afforded me the opportunity and ability to earn a quality living. In fact, the only real problems I see at UT now are a semicompetent football coaching staff and the homers who continue to live in the increasingly distant past in a pathetic attempt to prop up King Fulamanure and His Court of Jesters.
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Answer works for me! Didn't want to attack you, just wanted the reassurance of your Volunteer spirit.:eek:k:
 
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#169
Its a team sport, rarely can one player win a game by himself. No doubt if Manning had been drafted by the Patriots instead of the colts he would have won more already.

Same is true for Marino if he had been playing for the Niners instead of the Dolphins. Elway won Super Bowls at the end of his career when Denver was mainly a running team, and he had lost velocity on his throws. That was not his prime.
 
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oklavol said:
Its a team sport, rarely can one player win a game by himself. No doubt if Manning had been drafted by the Patriots instead of the colts he would have won more already.

Same is true for Marino if he had been playing for the Niners instead of the Dolphins. Elway won Super Bowls at the end of his career when Denver was mainly a running team, and he had lost velocity on his throws. That was not his prime.
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For the 10 billionth time, please do not ever use Dan Marino as a guage of what it is to be a great quarterback.
 
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hatvol96 said:
UT is the flagship institution in the state. It does a tremendous job of providing a quality education at an affordable price for the residents of the state. The current administration is doing a good job of elevating standards and slowly improving the academic facilities. I have great affection for the University that provided me with two degrees that have afforded me the opportunity and ability to earn a quality living. In fact, the only real problems I see at UT now are a semicompetent football coaching staff and the homers who continue to live in the increasingly distant past in a pathetic attempt to prop up King Fulamanure and His Court of Jesters.
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In theory if we lost CPF and got a capable coach with energy, he could do more with talent but would we not lose the ability to recruit top 5 classes every year?
 
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Fine Vol said:
In theory if we lost CPF and got a capable coach with energy, he could do more with talent but would we not lose the ability to recruit top 5 classes every year?
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that's the "dilemma". it's a matter of finding a coach who can get the needed recruits to UT and get them motivated to play. and to have the offensive and defensive schemes to compete better against the likes of Florida.
 
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volfanbill said:
that's the "dilemma". it's a matter of finding a coach who can get the needed recruits to UT and get them motivated to play. and to have the offensive and defensive schemes to compete better against the likes of Florida.
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True, I am on a fense on CPF but I give credit when its due and I say its one hell of a recruiting job, thanks CPF:thumbsup:
 
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#174
yeah. no one's ever doubted his recruiting abilities, but there comes a point where something has to happen w/ those recruits. but i'm tired of this debate. i'm not going any further.
 
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