Magic Number = 4

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Games Remaining: Vandy(H), Kentucky(H), USC(A), Alabama(H), Arky(A), UF(H), UGA(A)

Vols go at least 4-3 in this stretch and make the NCAAs. I would expect at least a first round win in the SEC tourney.
 
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Bennett4UT said:
Games Remaining: Vandy(H), Kentucky(H), USC(A), Alabama(H), Arky(A), UF(H), UGA(A)

Vols go at least 4-3 in this stretch and make the NCAAs. I would expect at least a first round win in the SEC tourney.
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Depending on Lofton's rate of progress, I see no reason why UT can't go 3-1 at home. (beating Vandy, Kentucky, Alabama, losing to Florida, or perhaps [gasp] beating Florida, losing to 'Bama or Kentucky.)

Bottom line: we have to have a SEC road win. When the committee looks at bubble teams, a 0-8 record in SEC play on the road is going to stick out like a sore thumb. I realize that basically everyone's struggled on the road in the conference except Florida, but still... the sad truth is, if we can't win at least 1 road conference game, we probably don't DESERVE to be in.

Optimistically, I think UT can win two road games: Georgia and South Carolina. Teams we've already beaten at home. That should instill some confidence going in. I don't think playing in Fayetteville is an automatic loss, either.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I watched a lot of your game. LSU made some runs at you, but you kept going back up by ten. I frankly expected a lot more out of LSU this year, but I do get the feeling they have almost given up.

What was the deal with all the empty seats?
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9pm start plus John Maier was at the Civic
 
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lawgator1 said:
Eight games to go. Do you get all four of them in the the regular season or do you need to get past first round of SEC tournament?

I say you get them in the regular season.
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6-10 with one SEC tourney win? I don't think that would be enough (note that we were 3-5 when this post was made). Now that we have beaten LSU, 4 might now be the magic number. That would be 8-8 or 7-9 with one SEC tourney win.
 
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Fine Vol said:
I want to watch Fla again to see how they look. Is there a chance Ken. takes them out?
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IMO, the Vols are better off with Florida beating UK. UT cannot win the East but can still finish 2nd. If we win our next two games, and UF beats UK, we'll be 1 game out of 2nd with 5 to go and have the tiebreaker over UK based on divisional record.
 
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ukvols said:
IMO, the Vols are better off with Florida beating UK. UT cannot win the East but can still finish 2nd. If we win our next two games, and UF beats UK, we'll be 1 game out of 2nd with 5 to go and have the tiebreaker over UK based on divisional record.
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Florida won last night by ten at Georgia and own the nation's win streak at, I believe, 17ish. I just don't understand how Donovan keeps them motivated like he has. They must be sitting there in the locker room for these games basically waiting for the NCAA tournament to begin. I'd be bored.
 
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Well, at least LG will have an excuse when Florida gets beat. They were just bored that night.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida won last night by ten at Georgia and own the nation's win streak at, I believe, 17ish. I just don't understand how Donovan keeps them motivated like he has. They must be sitting there in the locker room for these games basically waiting for the NCAA tournament to begin. I'd be bored.
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I know you'd love to give Billy his next "Grease" Job, but this type of garbage is just absurd. Donovan keeping them motivated is laughable. They clearly have two players who appear that they'd want to win a tiddly winks game even at the expense of a loved one. That's why they play hard. They win because they're considerably more talented than everyone else they play. External motivation has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
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tidwell said:
Well, at least LG will have an excuse when Florida gets beat. They were just bored that night.
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BigPapaVol said:
I know you'd love to give Billy his next "Grease" Job, but this type of garbage is just absurd. Donovan keeping them motivated is laughable. They clearly have two players who appear that they'd want to win a tiddly winks game even at the expense of a loved one. That's why they play hard. They win because they're considerably more talented than everyone else they play. External motivation has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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Don't you guys think that complacency is an issue?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida won last night by ten at Georgia and own the nation's win streak at, I believe, 17ish. I just don't understand how Donovan keeps them motivated like he has. They must be sitting there in the locker room for these games basically waiting for the NCAA tournament to begin. I'd be bored.
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Bait.
BigPapaVol said:
I know you'd love to give Billy his next "Grease" Job, but this type of garbage is just absurd. Donovan keeping them motivated is laughable. They clearly have two players who appear that they'd want to win a tiddly winks game even at the expense of a loved one. That's why they play hard. They win because they're considerably more talented than everyone else they play. External motivation has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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hook.
lawgator1 said:
Don't you guys think that complacency is an issue?
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reel.
BigPapaVol said:
Not when you're men among boys.
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catch.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida won last night by ten at Georgia and own the nation's win streak at, I believe, 17ish. I just don't understand how Donovan keeps them motivated like he has. They must be sitting there in the locker room for these games basically waiting for the NCAA tournament to begin. I'd be bored.
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They are probably motivated to win the SEC regular season title, because it's something they have not accomplished. Those guys didn't even win the East last year. They may feel like they have some unfinished business with the regular season.
 
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Catch, Jake. I don't think there has been a catch. I been saying around here for a while that UF is head and shoulders above everyone else and I'm not afraid to admit it. I think they have the best starting 5 in the country, not only in individual ability, but also in team play. They should win every SEC game they play by an enormous margin. They have to play like absolute crap for games to be close in conference. Giving Donovan some credit for motivating his team to all of these wins is just garbage.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its just such an easy game at times.
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Don't kid yourself. You really believe that Donovan is some sort of master motivator. You think he's pulling some magical coaching strings and UF is winning because of that. It couldn't be further from the truth.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Catch, Jake. I don't think there has been a catch. I been saying around here for a while that UF is head and shoulders above everyone else and I'm not afraid to admit it. I think they have the best starting 5 in the country, not only in individual ability, but also in team play. They should win every SEC game they play by an enormous margin. They have to play like absolute crap for games to be close in conference. Giving Donovan some credit for motivating his team to all of these wins is just garbage.
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you have to only know one thing...LG posts crap like that to get a stir out of the likes of people like you and i. that's all. the trick is trying to figure out when he's being serious and when he's full of it...and this one......he was full of it.
 
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jakez4ut said:
you have to only know one thing...LG posts crap like that to get a stir out of the likes of people like you and i. that's all. the trick is trying to figure out when he's being serious and when he's full of it...and this one......he was full of it.
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I agree with you about his "bored" comment, but I do think he believes Donovan is truly a motivator. I think that's more than a little sad.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I agree with you about his "bored" comment, but I do think he believes Donovan is truly a motivator. I think that's more than a little sad.
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so? what if he is? he may in fact be a great motivator. he's proven to be a very good coach i know that much. not every athelete is instrinsically montivated...and sometimes they need their buttons pushed to get that little extra out of 'em.

now the bored thing is probably a bit over stated...it's not like they're the dream team of '92 or whatever year it was....but i don't necessarily disagree with him that thus far, the SEC schedule has proven to be a bit of a cake walk for the gators this year. they have separated themselves rom the rest of the pack...and they know it.

they haven't had to have a wake up call like UNC had to get with NCSU i know that much........so he must be doing something right....
 
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jakez4ut said:
so? what if he is? he may in fact be a great motivator. he's proven to be a very good coach i know that much. not every athelete is instrinsically montivated...and sometimes they need their buttons pushed to get that little extra out of 'em.

now the bored thing is probably a bit over stated...it's not like they're the dream team of '92 or whatever year it was....but i don't necessarily disagree with him that thus far, the SEC schedule has proven to be a bit of a cake walk for the gators this year. they have separated themselves rom the rest of the pack...and they know it.

they haven't had to have a wake up call like UNC had to get with NCSU i know that much........so he must be doing something right....
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Coaches get too much credit for winning and losing. His team is experienced and confident. Brewer and Noah come out every night to flat out win and that carries over to the rest of the squad. Those two guys had that long before they became Gators. Teams that have players of that ilk tend to maximize their talents and take advantage of opportunities. Teams with non caring types never live up to their abilities and rarely win big games.
Media types talk a lot about coaches motivating teams, but I don't buy it even a little bit. Heck, look at the pro level. Players have little reason to be motivated and a motivator of a coach could make a huge impact on teams, but a vast majority of the coaches at that level are strong X and O types, very organized and creative. Motivator doesn't describe many of them.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Coaches get too much credit for winning and losing. His team is experienced and confident. Brewer and Noah come out every night to flat out win and that carries over to the rest of the squad. Those two guys had that long before they became Gators. Teams that have players of that ilk tend to maximize their talents and take advantage of opportunities. Teams with non caring types never live up to their abilities and rarely win big games.
Media types talk a lot about coaches motivating teams, but I don't buy it even a little bit. Heck, look at the pro level. Players have little reason to be motivated and a motivator of a coach could make a huge impact on teams, but a vast majority of the coaches at that level are strong X and O types, very organized and creative. Motivator doesn't describe many of them.
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i dont necessarily disagree with any of this. but coaches motivate, make no doubt. your defition of motivation could be debated, but the reality is the hardest part for a coach is trying to figure out the PEOPLE on their team. what makes them tick and deciding who needs what when it comes to getting players ready.

whether that means Bill Parcells referring to Aarron Glenn as "she" or TO as "the player"...or Bob Knight just getting in someone's face, or Dick Vermil getting all emotional before or after a game, they have to determine what works best for each individual and go with it. yes, there are players that don't need that attention. and noah and brewer may in fact be those types, but that's not always going to be the way it is across the board. the old addage in management is be consistent, treat everyone the same. Great leaders however, are the ones that can do that, but treat the individuals for what they are at the same time, getting the most out of any one person, for the betterment of the group or team.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida won last night by ten at Georgia and own the nation's win streak at, I believe, 17ish. I just don't understand how Donovan keeps them motivated like he has. They must be sitting there in the locker room for these games basically waiting for the NCAA tournament to begin. I'd be bored.
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jakez4ut said:
you have to only know one thing...LG posts crap like that to get a stir out of the likes of people like you and i. that's all. the trick is trying to figure out when he's being serious and when he's full of it...and this one......he was full of it.
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BigPapaVol said:
I agree with you about his "bored" comment, but I do think he believes Donovan is truly a motivator. I think that's more than a little sad.
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UTLCA said:
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